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| 6/22/2008 3:00:53 PM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | | nicck123456 Inver Grove Heights, MN age: 49
| the elca pays for aboration for any reason including sex selection
is it still christian?
| | 6/22/2008 3:21:21 PM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | |  stringsvrs Syracuse, NY age: 51 online now!
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the elca pays for aboration for any reason including sex selection
is it still christian?
It sure is!
For the many who proclaim to be Christian at least and fund the wars...etc...
JMHO
Peace and Love
| | 6/22/2008 11:05:09 PM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | |  curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42
| the elca pays for aboration for any reason including sex selection
is it still christian?
I have NO idea what the elca is, but what in the world does abortion have to do with jesus?
You are assuming I take it, that abortion is a sin? That is a personal opinion. I personally don't think abortion is wrong at all. I didn't have one myself, but I do not believe it is a sin.
I think the people that try to brow beat the women into thinking it is, are sinful, but the abortion itself is not a sin neccesarily.
| | 6/23/2008 4:45:24 AM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | | elizabeth_fl Tampa, FL age: 36
| the elca pays for aboration for any reason including sex selection
is it still christian?
I have NO idea what the elca is, but what in the world does abortion have to do with jesus?
You are assuming I take it, that abortion is a sin? That is a personal opinion. I personally don't think abortion is wrong at all. I didn't have one myself, but I do not believe it is a sin.
I think the people that try to brow beat the women into thinking it is, are sinful, but the abortion itself is not a sin neccesarily.
SINCE WHEN DID ABORTION NOT BECOME A SIN?. WHO SAID IT WAS NOT? THAT IS THE SAME AS SAYING PRACTICING HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT IN SIN.
| | 6/23/2008 4:50:19 AM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | | sewright Evansville, WI age: 68
| Hey liz, have you noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Danielle
| | 6/23/2008 4:54:56 AM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | | elizabeth_fl Tampa, FL age: 36
|  Hey liz, have you noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.
Danielle
lol GOOD OBSERVATION. I GUESS IF WE CONTINUE TO ABORT OURSELVES, THERE WILL BE NO ONE LEFT TO DO THE ABORTIONS. I KNOW STUPID STATEMENT. BUT HEY
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| | 6/23/2008 5:36:37 AM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | | nicck123456 Inver Grove Heights, MN age: 49
| Jesus said woah to anyone that hurts one of these little ones.....
| | 6/23/2008 5:43:47 AM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | | sewright Evansville, WI age: 68
| In my opinion it is the holocaust of the US, and we wonder why we have problems.
Danielle
| | 6/23/2008 7:44:24 AM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | |  nodresiak Versailles, OH age: 32
| No,it sure isn't christian.Since when would Christ approve of killing our own children.These so called "fetuses" have a heartbeat just like you and I.All life here is a result of our creators will.When one aborts a child it is going against his wishes.It is telling God his plans are wrong.These girls are not to be browbeaten they simply made a sinful choice.They have the same chance of redemption if they repent as the rest of us sinnners.I thank God that none of your mothers made this so called "choice"
As a sidenote could the starter of this thread clarify what "elca" means.
| | 6/23/2008 8:17:35 AM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | | nicck123456 Inver Grove Heights, MN age: 49
| No,it sure isn't christian.Since when would Christ approve of killing our own children.These so called "fetuses" have a heartbeat just like you and I.All life here is a result of our creators will.When one aborts a child it is going against his wishes.It is telling God his plans are wrong.These girls are not to be browbeaten they simply made a sinful choice.They have the same chance of redemption if they repent as the rest of us sinnners.I thank God that none of your mothers made this so called "choice"
As a sidenote could the starter of this thread clarify what "elca" means. 
that means the evangelical luthern church of america. they also support gay marrage.
| | 6/23/2008 11:53:41 AM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | | sewright Evansville, WI age: 68
| Scripture says "I knew you from your mothers womb."
Danielle
| | 6/23/2008 12:26:37 PM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | | william7777_777 Salem, OR age: 53
| nicck123456 states:
that means the evangelical luthern church of america. they also support gay marrage.
Well, that must make it correct and MOST CERTAINLY BE PLEASING IN THE SITE OF Creator, God…
I THINK NOT
I THINK NOT
I THINK NOT
I even know it NOT Right.
The label of "...Christian..." is slapped on a lot of thing which are totally opposed to it
I suppose under the same rational of thought than if I let my hair down and look like a woman then it would be ‘all-right’ to enter a restroom marked ‘WOMAN’ I think NOT…
sewright States:
In my opinion it is the holocaust of the US, and we wonder why we have problems.
Danielle
Is 50 million killed unborn deaths enough to qualify as a holocaust. I would think so. Look around. Where are all of the children, not a lot of ‘white’ babies around…I don’t think this is the only reasons there are problem within this Land, for WE HAVE TURNED INWARD AND MADE OURSELVE LITTLE gods WITH OUR SELF, ME FIRST, YOU FIRST AFTER ME attitude, and we have our god or gods and have even replaced God with a new god called ‘…GOD…’ and we (stupid people that we are) being so proud (man’s intellectualism) put it on what we worship –that which most call money in ‘in GOD we trust’ (emphasis added) We the People… mock Creator – God. And I think on can actually see the beginning of the end…
Scripture says "I knew you from your mothers womb."
Danielle
AGREE
I make the statement that it takes three to make a son or a daughter , being
Creator, God, man and woman.
Creator, God, man and woman.
Creator, God, man and woman.
It takes three to make a ‘person’ father, and mother and the (corporation) STATE.
My thoughts (and other concur…)
In His Service
William
| | 6/23/2008 12:39:25 PM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | |  lees224 Cohoes, NY age: 51 online now!
| Homosexuality and abortion,are both sins against God...Any Killing Of another with true intent for the murder is a Sin...Abortion is a choice,and I believe that God knows this persons Heart.And if this sin was intended just to get rid of a life,because of foolish neglagence,one should never commit this sin again.But It is still taking a life from being a Life.That Is one That is against both commandments Jesus Left with us..And the same holds true with homosexuality,Taking what God intended and reversing this process,So the one living this life again is the taker..But God Must decide if the person Doing These Things Are True in their Heart,or if they are the sinner with intent,or if the Ever Even Knew Him...
You Must hate the Sin,Not The sinner,This is Forgivness That God needs to Deal with,not You or I,but God..God knows How powerful Satans ways Are,How he Lies,How He Justifies the Sin as to Look Like The Good Guy...But God knows The Heart,how they would act....So As many do these abominations against Gods Will,He will judge not you and I..As some will be trully sorry as they Did Not Know,some will make these mistakes not with intent in their Heart.But The Act of knowing is the first step,and many Who Know Not God,will Commit these sins without trully knowing till after...Than Its Up To God To Decide not us.. Forgivness in Love,is From God...Forgivness in Love was brought By Jesus...
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| | 6/23/2008 12:45:08 PM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | | elizabeth_fl Tampa, FL age: 36
| Homosexuality and abortion,are both sins against God...Any Killing Of another with true intent for the murder is a Sin...Abortion is a choice,and I believe that God knows this persons Heart,and if this sin was intended just to get rid of a life,But It is still taking a life from being a Life...and the same holds true with homosexuality,Taking what God intended and reversing this process,So the one living this life again is the taker..But God Must decide if the person Doing These Things Are True in their Heart,or if they are the sinner with intent...
You Must hate the Sin,Not The sinner,This is Forgivness That God needs to Deal with,not You or I,but God..God knows How powerful Satans ways Are,How he Lies,How He Justifies the Sin as to Look Like The Good Guy...But God knows The Heart,how they would act....So As many do these abominations against Gods Will,He will judge not you and I..As some will be trully sorry as they Did Not Know,some will make these mistakes not with intent in their Heart.But The Act of knowing is the first step,and many Who Know Not God,will Commit these sins without trully knowing till after...Than Its Up To God To Decide not us.. Forgivness in Love,is From God...Forgivness in Love was brought By Jesus... 
BRAVO LEES. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HOW DID YOU KNOW ABORTION IS A SIN AND IS CLASSIFIED AS MURDER. THE BIBLE DOES NOT MENTION THE WORD ABORTION? I AM JUST CURIOUS. AGAIN NOT ATTACKING, BUT YOU SPEAK TRUTH WITH REGARD TO ABORTION BEING MURDER. HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT?
| | 6/23/2008 1:25:52 PM | christian synod that pays for aborations is it christian | |  lees224 Cohoes, NY age: 51 online now!
| Homosexuality and abortion,are both sins against God...Any Killing Of another with true intent for the murder is a Sin...Abortion is a choice,and I believe that God knows this persons Heart,and if this sin was intended just to get rid of a life,But It is still taking a life from being a Life...and the same holds true with homosexuality,Taking what God intended and reversing this process,So the one living this life again is the taker..But God Must decide if the person Doing These Things Are True in their Heart,or if they are the sinner with intent...
You Must hate the Sin,Not The sinner,This is Forgivness That God needs to Deal with,not You or I,but God..God knows How powerful Satans ways Are,How he Lies,How He Justifies the Sin as to Look Like The Good Guy...But God knows The Heart,how they would act....So As many do these abominations against Gods Will,He will judge not you and I..As some will be trully sorry as they Did Not Know,some will make these mistakes not with intent in their Heart.But The Act of knowing is the first step,and many Who Know Not God,will Commit these sins without trully knowing till after...Than Its Up To God To Decide not us.. Forgivness in Love,is From God...Forgivness in Love was brought By Jesus... 
BRAVO LEES. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. HOW DID YOU KNOW ABORTION IS A SIN AND IS CLASSIFIED AS MURDER. THE BIBLE DOES NOT MENTION THE WORD ABORTION? I AM JUST CURIOUS. AGAIN NOT ATTACKING, BUT YOU SPEAK TRUTH WITH REGARD TO ABORTION BEING MURDER. HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT?
As I stated in my post taking ones life...from beings one life....It is against God,it Against the commandments,its Against The Message for Life...Love,and this is not Love as this is From Satans tricks of Begiling one...and I know this as The Holy Spirit told Me this Many Years after I too commited This Sin...I was a fool,I did not know what I was doing,It Is My Sin Of All Sins,I took a life,I am and always will never forget this,as I can not even fathom how I let This happen(was by Faulty Protection)but what ever the reason,I commited Sin against God...
I hate this,rebuke(sATAN) every time I think about This Act( I commited by Satans treachorey) But It Happened..And That I need Gods Forgivness,And I believe in My heart He Knows My Heart,and Forgave me For This Cause, I know Now this Sin,as I have Learned Much By The Holy Sprit Relaying these Things To Me....  p.s. And I know sharing this is not to lie,but to tell you Why I believe the Way I do.I have felt The Presence of Christ,and feel the Presence Of Holy Spirit,teaching Me Gods Love...and Forgivness..
If You Believe in Your Heart and Confess With Your Mouth That Jesus Is Lord,God Raised him from the dead..Thou shall have salvation...so Im sure I'll be mocked and slandered by this confession,but I dont care God Knows Me and I know Him and that is all that matters to This cofession I Made to Him many moons ago,when I was a fool... 
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