| 10/8/2007 7:35:59 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | | 
smiley62
McHenry, IL
age: 45
| OMG! I just fell off my chair! You agreed with something I wrote! LOL! j/k (honest)
| | 10/8/2007 7:38:43 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | |
gawd
Appleton, WI
age: 54
| Well put Kitten..and I have to say I didnt want someone that needed me but wanted only me.
| | 10/8/2007 7:49:12 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | |
smiley62
McHenry, IL
age: 45
| I don't think that the equality issue is what caused the problem. More a matter of socioeconomics. Most of us have by necessity, had to learn to provide for ourselves. What you've described is what I think most, if not all of us are looking for. Needing another is a good thing. Being dependent is not.
| | 10/8/2007 7:53:48 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | |
gawd
Appleton, WI
age: 54
| If someone needs you they problably need you to make them feel happy..It could also be taken as codependend..Thats all I meant..
| | 10/8/2007 7:56:46 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | | 
klassykitten
Toccoa, GA
age: 51
| Kinda sorta in a left handed way that's kinda sorta what I mean Photo....
Unfortunately, the role reversal was forced on me in early life...Being mother, father, head of the household, etc...not my choice.
But it did make it hard to fully trust and turn that responsibility of security and "take care" over to a man 100%. I knew I wouldn't let me down...But hindsite is 20/20. I know where I made my mistakes...
Not the issue now at this age...
I NEED BUT I AM NOT NEEDY...
[Edited 10/8/2007 7:57:38 AM]
| | 10/8/2007 8:03:53 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | |
rain_or_shine
Columbia, SC
age: 45
| As I sit here and think, and yes I do, do that believe it or not. I have wondered this as I've gotten older....I will not go into an in depth facts....Many things I've done, To be something very powerful and keep a man happy. I don't mean just sexually, there is more to being someones partner.....Its takes so much more then this....For my own reasons I will not say so on open Forums.....If you wish to know more then email me.....
but you do have valid thoughts .......JMO.......Shine
| | 10/8/2007 8:04:55 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | |
gawd
Appleton, WI
age: 54
| I tend to agree with you..Looking back when I was growing up..it was great to have my mom home and not working..
But when you look at what the cost of living is now..no way can one man support his family. Do I like the way things have turned out? No Would I have rather stayed home and been a housewife and mother..you bet..but the reality of that is its just not possible anymore.
| | 10/8/2007 8:09:56 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | |
smiley62
McHenry, IL
age: 45
| Photo, there's quite a bit that I agree with in what you've said. Unfortunately, for better or worse the world has changed. When I think of my grandmother's life of never ending work as a farm wife, I can only smile at my dishwasher. Even so, she was very happy and fulfilled in her life. That way of life simply doesn't exist any more. Here's hoping that as a society, we find a happy medium between what was and what is.
| | 10/8/2007 8:17:27 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | | 
mikeman44
Tallahassee, FL
age: 48
| I guess i'm old fashion in this regard...My sole purpose in life(and i've had alot of time to think about it) is to make my partner happy...yea a new car or house can do that but i also mean in simple ways...ask them whats wrong,talk about it...remembering sweetest day..or just simply a hug...peck on the cheek...a nice backrub at nite while talking how the day went...let them know i care...i really want to find that...thats what would make me happy as well
| | 10/8/2007 8:18:49 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | | 
branes51
Clermont, FL
age: 57
| What I've experienced lately is two relationships (at different times) with women who said they want a serious relationship, say they want to spend time with me, but with jobs, family, kids, etc, you get to spend one day a week together and since you're both horny as hell after a week, most of it is spent in bed. Hard to get to know or learn to love someone that way. Yeah, I know, I shouldn't be b*tching, at least I'm getting laid, right? Wrong. May sound funny coming from a guy, but I want more than that. I want to go out, have fun. I'm beginning to feel like a "booty call." I'm the one that wants the "fairy tale" because I had it and it was taken from me. I loved being married, being part of a partnership that did everything together. I don't have kids and most of my family is dead and buried except for my brother in Alabama. So, I'm looking for a woman who will be my family, and best friend, and lover and partner in crime.
And if I may say so without ego, I'm everything on Gawd's list except that I'm a Yankee fanatic and have to have my MLB package. But I also have a DVR so.
As for the Realdoll LOL, I'm not loaded, but I'm retired and don't have to worry about where my next meal is coming from so I have that to offer also.
Since I asked this question last night, the situation has suddenly become complicated.
One of the ladies I mentioned above broke up with me last week because she said with all her other commitments our relationship was too stressful to maintain. I'm really fond of her and she's incredibly sexy and fun to be with and a wonderful woman, although pretty flighty. This wasn't the first time she did this. Over time, I could easily fall in love with her, if I haven't already. But she broke it off again so now I'm a "free agent" again. I met someone yesterday that have known online during both these relationships. We've become friends and she was my confidante and advisor at the time. She's kind of been waiting in the wings to see how the relationship with the other lady went. After the first break off, we had planned to meet then the first lady came back. Finally, after the 2d break up we met yesterday. Now she's coming over Saturday and wants to spend the night, not my idea, hers. Both ladies live an hour or more from me which is why they spend the night so they don't want to drive home late, or that's what they say. I'll call them D1 and D2 since both their names begin with D.
This morning I get a call from D1, she wants to come over tonight to pick up her things after work, but wants to spend the night because she has tomorrow off. Oh boy. Another booty call. Worse, from her conversation on the phone, I think she wants to continue the relationship. Now, they both know about each other, I should mention, ,but haven't met or seen each other. D2 was my confidante and advisor during my problems with D1 so she knows pretty much how I feel about her. D1 knows I met D2 yesterday which is why I think she wants to spend the night. In fact, the day I met D1 I was supposed to meet D2, but she cancelled, D1 had called me and asked if I wanted to meet that day since we had talked about it online but told her I was committed to meeting D2 that day, but when D2 cancelled, we met. Actually, she came to my house, we had a little too much fun, she stayed over and ended up staying the weekend.
D2 knows D1 is coming over to get her stuff this week. I know for a fact that D2 is going to ask me if I slept with D1, which frankly is none of her business since we haven't even gone on a date yet, but she will, she's a woman. She has already asked me what D1 looked like and I refused to tell her because D1 is a very attractive woman with a great body for her age, she's 53, D2 is 52. D2 is attractive, but not nearly so. And I won't lie to her so refusal seemed the safest alternative. But she's a wonderful, sweet woman who has no serious attachments in her life, a widow for just over 2 years which means she has no negative baggage either. Her husband died of cancer, like my wife so we have that in common as well as having been caregivers. All her family is in Tennessee, hundreds of miles away, which means the chances for a successful relationship are much better, at least based just on availability. As far as compatibility goes, who knows. A month or so of emailing and one afternoon together isn't enough to make that determination but from what I saw yesterday, she's got a beautiful spirit and being a widow is capable of loving someone completely, something I'm not really sure about with D1 with her on again off again behavior towards the relationship.
There is obviously a major competition going on between these women with me as the "prize." And apparently sex appears to be the weapon being employed otherwise I doubt that D2 would invite herself to my house for an overnight stay after just meeting for an afternoon. Remember, she knows D1 is coming this week. Even though D1 broke off the relationship officially, there is still an attachment between us but no commitment. I haven't even had a date with D2 yet other than an afternoon meeting so there's no commitment there either.
I feel that what I do with either woman is nobody's business but my own since I'm not committed to either woman, but there is a strong element of jealosy present in both ladies.
So, you can see why I have to wonder if all we men are good for is as sex toys for ladies. Although, I really doubt that is their motivation since D2 has never slept with me and for all she knows I could be a flop in the sack. And D1 doesn't want her to get the opportunity to find out.  Mind you I never asked either of these women to bed..they've invited themselves.
Eventually, I'm going to have to choose between the two. Of course, the ideal situation would be one on one weekend, the other on the other weekend.  but since they know about each other, that's out of the question. I'm such a dog.
| | 10/8/2007 8:18:53 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | |
klassykitten
Toccoa, GA
age: 51
| (V-8 slap to the head) Photo I agree with alot of what you say and even the way you are saying it for once....
But you are talking to a woman here that's never owned a dishwasher....
If I had a do over...I would have made better choices and found a forever love and happily stayed home bare foot and pregnant....so to speak...
| | 10/8/2007 8:23:34 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | |
klassykitten
Toccoa, GA
age: 51
| Well branes...my "give a damn" is busted on that one!!!!!!!
| | 10/8/2007 8:25:26 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | |
gawd
Appleton, WI
age: 54
| Get D1 out of your life and move on..She sounds like a jealous woman that doesnt know what she wants.
I would tell her to pick he things up when its convenient for you and a stay over is a no no..
Give D2 a chance she sounds like she has her shit together, but it also sounds like you might be playing one against the other.
You need to cut your losses with D1 now..Just my opinion
| | 10/8/2007 8:27:53 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | |
branes51
Clermont, FL
age: 57
| Appliances were part of it, but the real catalyst was WWII when women suddenly became a major part of the workforce, earning their own money, being independent, doing it all because hubby and daddy was overseas fighting. Rosie the Riveter.
Then suddenly, when it ended, we shoved them back in the kitchen, took away their independence and said, go back to being the nice wifey. And to keep them happy we gave them dishwashers, modern ovens, microwaves, and a thousand other labor saving devices. But history has shown that it didn't work.
The rest of what you said, pretty much sums it up. Economic necessity, single mothers. All of that.
By the way, who's Sygar?
[Edited 10/8/2007 8:28:14 AM]
| | 10/8/2007 8:33:25 AM | What ARE Men really good for these days to a woman? | | 
newlife4me2
Sioux Falls, SD
age: 43
| I also happen to agree with a lot of what you had to say Photo.
I've always seen myself as a sort of June Cleaver stuck living in a 21st century hell.
And please, no bashing me for it....we all have our comfort zones...mine was never to be a career/corporate achiever........family and personal relationships are what are most important to me, they always have been and always will be.
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