| 1/19/2009 7:16:13 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |  stress_test
 Northport, WA age: 46
| Washington Post
Monday, December 1, 2008
The U.S. military expects to have 20,000 uniformed troops inside the United States by 2011 trained to help state and local officials respond to a nuclear terrorist attack or other domestic catastrophe, according to Pentagon officials.
The long-planned shift in the Defense Department's role in homeland security was recently backed with funding and troop commitments after years of prodding by Congress and outside experts, defense analysts said.
There are critics of the change, in the military and among civil liberties groups and libertarians who express concern that the new homeland emphasis threatens to strain the military and possibly undermine the Posse Comitatus Act, a 130-year-old federal law restricting the military's role in domestic law enforcement.
But the Bush administration and some in Congress have pushed for a heightened homeland military role since the middle of this decade, saying the greatest domestic threat is terrorists exploiting the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
The first 4,700-person unit, built around an active-duty combat brigade based at Fort Stewart, Ga., was available as of Oct. 1, said Gen. Victor E. Renuart Jr., commander of the U.S. Northern Command.
Bert B. Tussing, director of homeland defense and security issues at the U.S. Army War College's Center for Strategic Leadership, said the new Pentagon approach "breaks the mold" by assigning an active-duty combat brigade to the Northern Command for the first time. Until now, the military required the command to rely on troops requested from other sources.
18th Amendment : The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. ยง 1385) passed on June 16, 1878 after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits members of the federal uniformed services (the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) in the former Confederate states.
The statute prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Act.
For troops to be deployed, a condition has to exist that, โ(1) So hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.โ
Is the incoming Obama administration and Northcom waiting for such a scenario to unfold, an event that completely overwhelms state authorities, before unleashing the might of the U.S. Army against the American people?
Maps of US States layed out in airplane hangers. (Notice the screens.)
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American troops arresting civilians. Full sized image
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Armed American Aircraft at Northcom. Full sized image
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Canadian Officer inside of NorthCom Notice insignia on sholder and computer screens.)
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US Flag Insignia; indicating Deployment on American soil. (Notice also computer screens.)
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| 1/19/2009 7:32:37 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 jcsx Bellevue, WA age: 50
| We are already under invasion, and it is about time that troops were called in to protect the borders and clean out the illegals. IF that is what they are going to use this for, I would fully support it. However, with barry in charge, I wouldn't put it past him to utilize them as some kind of gestapo organization where the blacks are treated like "loyal" Germans by Hitler, and the rest of us will be like the jews, disabled, elderly, gypsies, dwarves etc. His proposing the draft be reinstated was the first step toward killing off as many of the unprotected groups.
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| 1/19/2009 7:45:59 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
sapphireblue579
 Jackson, MI age: 51
| I believe the answer is YES.
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| 1/19/2009 7:46:30 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 stargazzer
 Creighton, NE age: 61 online now!
| Back around last june or before I saw a news cast on Fox that the Us & canada had signed an agreement that when nessasary canada troops could come in to the US to settle civian unrest and armerican troops could do the same in canada. I was astonished at what I had just heard and thought this was BIG BIG BIG news as it bye passed congrass totaly. I kept looking for more news on this, on every chanell, not a word. and fox never repeated it. yes I did hear it. and it then disaperared not to be repeated. you draw your own thoughts, but I know I heard it and this was the jist as what was said.
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| 1/19/2009 9:16:40 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
wolfi
 Albuquerque, NM age: 45
| North America (well, the U.S. , anyway...) is preparing for the Digital TV Transition.
Folks have no time for Civil War, they are busy trying to figure out how to hook up their converter boxes.....
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| 1/19/2009 9:31:02 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
vegas911 Wynnewood, PA age: 55
| North America (well, the U.S. , anyway...) is preparing for the Digital TV Transition.
Folks have no time for Civil War, they are busy trying to figure out how to hook up their converter boxes..... HOW right you are wolfi,we must have are priorities in order...besides bubba is looking for 6 new conspiracys a day....
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| 1/19/2009 1:51:14 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 horserider4ever
 Leadville, CO age: 47
| You all just go ahead and keep your head in the sand. It is coming...but exactly when is not deteremined....maybe next yr, maybe 10 years from now, but it is coming. Alot of unhappy people in the US and the economy is not getting any better anytime soon...
Civil unrest is not a matter of if, but when. Best to at least get your mind straight if not prepare for it. Because you are all in for a very rude awakening.  
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| 1/19/2009 2:11:57 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
noredneckhere
 Knoxville, TN age: 50
| North America (well, the U.S. , anyway...) is preparing for the Digital TV Transition.
Folks have no time for Civil War, they are busy trying to figure out how to hook up their converter boxes.....
And what they don't even realize is that 99% don't need one.
I mean, who the hell has rabbit ears anymore.
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| 1/19/2009 2:26:16 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
wvdad2 Bunker Hill, WV age: 41
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| 1/19/2009 2:54:16 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 nodresiak Versailles, OH age: 34
| No, I think that they realize that our economy is going to go straight into the crapper and are preparing the military to step in and provide some stability as the resulting civil unrest ensues.
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| 1/19/2009 2:58:55 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 horserider4ever
 Leadville, CO age: 47
| This is totally off the subject but here goes...
Quote from wolfi:
North America (well, the U.S. , anyway...) is preparing for the Digital TV Transition.
Folks have no time for Civil War, they are busy trying to figure out how to hook up their converter boxes.....
nores... your comment....
And what they don't even realize is that 99% don't need one.
I mean, who the hell has rabbit ears anymore.
my comment: Actually I have a rabbit small 13 in. tv. I use it for old betsy...my 1984 shasta rv when travelling to river raft and such. Those old Rv's don't have antennas on them. But alot of older generation have them. My parents live in country and don't have cable...they have a 60 ft. antenna tower and just get basic tv with it. Surprise, surprise...alot of elderly have this type scenario. More than you think.
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| 1/19/2009 6:06:49 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
theothergman
 Michigan, ND age: 49
| Members of the Canadian Forces have been serving in the US for a long time, just as US forces have been serving in Canada. The only thing I see on the horizon is hope now that we're no longer going to be sold a false bill of goods for the next 4 years. I don't think we're going to be deliberately deceived either.
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| 1/19/2009 6:12:51 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 bearhoundman Reader, WV age: 41
| yes they are, because it is a very real possibility.
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| 1/19/2009 6:27:18 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
nyguitar77
 Watertown, NY age: 32
| Stress Test, have you ever been in the military? Those pictures are nothing.
Picture #1 - I don't see any proof of them using the pictures to plan some government attack on US citizens. We frequently use local maps for land navigation training, and aircrew use them for navigation as well. So when I'm hiking out in the woods with my troops, I'm not allowed to have a map?
Picture #2 - Another training exercise. Most likely preparing them for missions over in OEF/OIF. And did you notice...their weapons have no magazines in them?????  
Picture #3 - Um...the military has been doing live fire air exercises since the invention of aircraft. Do you expect them to go into battle never firing their weapons before? There are designated ranges for that.
Picture #4 - Uh, that's called NORAD. NORTH AMERICAN Air Defense. Canadians have been a part of it for decades.
Picture #5 - It's tradition to wear the American flag on uniforms. It doesn't mean they're "deployed" in the US to "wage war on US citizens".
I seriously hope you're not that ill-informed that you randomly post pictures without knowing what they are. But then again, people often fear what they don't understand. I can tell you were in the media, because you take images, and twist them to your needs. 
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| 1/19/2009 7:14:27 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 stress_test
 Northport, WA age: 46
| Actually it is NORTHCOM, Northern Command.
U.S. Northern Command (NORTHCOM) was established Oct. 1, 2002 to provide command and control of Department of Defense (DoD) homeland defense efforts and to coordinate defense support of civil authorities. NORTHCOM defends America's homeland โ protecting our people, national power, and freedom of action. Located at Peterson AFB CO. Under the command of Gen. Victor E. Renuart Jr., Second in command is newly appointed Army Lt. Gen. H Steven Blum, as of Jan. 16, 2009.
Gen. Victor E. Renuart Jr.
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| 1/19/2009 7:18:57 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 stress_test
 Northport, WA age: 46
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| 1/21/2009 5:23:17 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 jcsx Bellevue, WA age: 50
| Back around last june or before I saw a news cast on Fox that the Us & canada had signed an agreement that when nessasary canada troops could come in to the US to settle civian unrest and armerican troops could do the same in canada. I was astonished at what I had just heard and thought this was BIG BIG BIG news as it bye passed congrass totaly. I kept looking for more news on this, on every chanell, not a word. and fox never repeated it. yes I did hear it. and it then disaperared not to be repeated. you draw your own thoughts, but I know I heard it and this was the jist as what was said.
Sorry this IS a very serious subject, but the idea that canadians can "settle" Americans, that one just had me busting up laughing.    
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| 1/21/2009 5:28:28 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 tommynotoes Bemidji, MN age: 48
| If you mean the burgeoning numbers of poor and lower middle class rising up against the wealthy, yes. It will happen eventually unless something changes....
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| 1/21/2009 6:45:41 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 stargazzer
 Creighton, NE age: 61 online now!
| jcsx according to the news cast I heard this was a done deal. If true and I suspect that it was and is? To me it means it would be easyer to order to shoot on the civilan population useing forgin troops than american troops, why else would we need them? Or vise versa?
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| 1/21/2009 8:43:45 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 jcsx Bellevue, WA age: 50
| tommy, what I see is people getting fed up with the racism and accompanying crimes that will result from barry giving it all his seal of approval. Then LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO ARE NOT WILLING TO ALLOW RACISM TO BECOME A WAY OF LIFE, SANCTIONED BY THIS SCAMMER. That is the war I see starting.
Star, sorry, but have known enough canucks to not have any fears of them even being able to take us on. The picture I get in my head is of them running home as soon as a real yankee rebel says BOO!
But gotta say, after all the ugliness I have read through on the barry BS, sure was nice to have a good belly laugh at that one. The next four years will be little more than political mood swings from horror to humor and back again.
If so many are willing to go along with his claims about his birth (4 DIFFERENT birth certs????) I can just see them swallowing it whole when he tries to excuse himself and his wife claiming they are BOTH going through menopause   Right up there with the rest of the crap I have heard from the lot.
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| 1/21/2009 5:49:45 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 horserider4ever
 Leadville, CO age: 47
| stress test....WTF (but not surprising...just haven't seen this on yet, thanks for sharing)....yeah alot of us have been trying to tell this story....but there is so much ignorance and blind faith going on in here that I wish you luck in trying to convince them.
Tommynotoes....Sorry but just have to say it...pull your head out of your ass. it's people like you that will be sorely surprised if "the plan" of total control is played out just like so many people "in the news" have tried to warn of. Big question is not if, but when.
Stargazer...other troops and why comment. I have said this before and will say it again. Dated a Navy Seal about 10 years ago...he stated that something was in the works...they were told by commanding team officer where to go when the sheot hit the fan. The navy seal didn't give me the details of course, but stated that his team was going to fight for the freedom, not the government's plan. Also stated that foreign troops were being trained to be on US soil to do the "dirty work", because they will not mind shooting American citizens, where as American soldiers would. This comment proves in the military "swap" so to speak.
jcsx...so true, yeah we are in for a world of hurt and regardless of what others say(call us crazy or whatever)....they will eventually be comforted that when it all goes down, they will know they were wrong and there will be American's out there fighting for the right reasons and freedom against this BS plan. 
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| 1/21/2009 5:53:53 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
wvdad2 Bunker Hill, WV age: 41
| ready
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| 1/21/2009 5:59:14 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 bubba19682007
 Leadville, CO age: 42
| Bring em on I say, Us bitter clingers will KICK,,,,THEIR,,,,ASS!!!
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| 1/21/2009 6:15:08 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 horserider4ever
 Leadville, CO age: 47
| Or at least take alot of them with us...by God!
I'm with you Bubba, on that one!
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| 1/21/2009 6:42:36 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 wvtravlr
 Ravenswood, WV age: 51
| The fine men and women of our military..serve as no other in the world...But if they are ordered to turn on thier own people...I cant see it..I dont care where they are from..Who they are..I can't see them bringing ups arms against us... But thats just my opinion..
Was told as a boy the safest place to live was at the end of a long road..with a big dog..and a big gun..There is only 1 reason why anyone would come down that road..And the dog would let you know someone was coming..Plenty of time to load the gun...
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| 1/21/2009 7:00:38 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 horserider4ever
 Leadville, CO age: 47
| wvtrvlr comment:
The fine men and women of our military..serve as no other in the world...But if they are ordered to turn on thier own people...I cant see it..I dont care where they are from..Who they are..I can't see them bringing ups arms against us... But thats just my opinion..
You are absolutely correct on that...that is why in another topic maybe? that I stated:
It will be a "military swap" so to speak. Other troops have been training over here, as we have been training in other countries, and why you might ask...because our troops won't shoot on American citizens, but other countries won't give it a second thought...just do what they are told.
but IMO that gates swings both way doesn't it? Maybe I can sleep better at nite knowing I won't have to shoot an American. 
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| 1/21/2009 7:12:15 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 wvtravlr
 Ravenswood, WV age: 51
| Well if that were the case rider they better bring lots of body bags...Cause there would be Hell to pay...
Amongst us we disagree...But you remember the spirit of 9-11? I'd be right there with ya..Probably right there beside alot of people we disagree with politically.. Nobody f@#ks with us.. Not that way..
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| 1/22/2009 8:33:05 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 jcsx Bellevue, WA age: 50
| horse "Maybe I can sleep better at nite knowing I won't have to shoot an American."
Weeeeellllll, I could shoot racist trying to incite the hate that is going to start the whole mess in the first place, unfortunately we seem to have some "working" the white house. I could also unload on LaRaza. A few other groups as well. So, not like I couldn't shoot any Americans. Bottom line, anyone coming after me or mine. Decent Americans wouldn't be, so that is where the line would be drawn.
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| 1/22/2009 9:22:04 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 horserider4ever
 Leadville, CO age: 47
| jcsx....with that I can agree 100%! 
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| 1/22/2009 9:23:09 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
ridge138 Pilgrim, KY age: 26
| Members of the Canadian Forces have been serving in the US for a long time, just as US forces have been serving in Canada. The only thing I see on the horizon is hope now that we're no longer going to be sold a false bill of goods for the next 4 years. I don't think we're going to be deliberately deceived either.
What began the war in Iraq?
Anybody have trouble remembering the line "There are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq"
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| 1/22/2009 9:30:20 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
dugydew
 Seattle, WA age: 48
| What began the war in Iraq?
Anybody have trouble remembering the line "There are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq"
Well we all believed them. Just like we believed Sadam when he said he had them.Whats the problem? our info was wrong and Sadam lied....BFD!!
You sound like Bill Clinton when he knew Al quedia was a credible threat and decided to wait and did nothing......2 extremes.
I dont fault our Government Erring on the side of caution.......
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| 1/22/2009 2:13:27 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
dugydew
 Seattle, WA age: 48
| Deterrence has always been an American stance.
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| 1/22/2009 2:21:21 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
jokergypsy Ashford, WA age: 61
| ANYONE remember all the high ranking deserters from iraq that they had on all the news channels saying that they worked on all these weapons Where the hell are these people now? how come we dont see them on the tv anymore but we all saw and heard them say they were there and made and used the stuff WTF----LUCAS
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| 1/22/2009 2:23:32 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
chinatown_girl
 Oyster Bay, NY age: 21
| ANYONE remember all the high ranking deserters from iraq that they had on all the news channels saying that they worked on all these weapons Where the hell are these people now? how come we dont see them on the tv anymore but we all saw and heard them say they were there and made and used the stuff WTF----LUCAS
but we're not supposed to remember that lucas. in fact, most people dont. when the flag waves they go into a trance.
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| 1/22/2009 2:27:08 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
chinatown_girl
 Oyster Bay, NY age: 21
| Well we all believed them. Just like we believed Sadam when he said he had them.Whats the problem? our info was wrong and Sadam lied....BFD!!
You sound like Bill Clinton when he knew Al quedia was a credible threat and decided to wait and did nothing......2 extremes.
I dont fault our Government Erring on the side of caution.......
we didnt ALL believe them, only the democrats and republicans. there were a lot of people in the rest of the world who were doing their research and said it wasnt true. so did the guy they sent to search for them. think his name was scott ritter but im not sure. people were just so desperate to kill somebody that the truth was irrelevent.
that was a great song by johnny cash! woah!
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| 1/22/2009 2:35:37 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
ridge138 Pilgrim, KY age: 26
| we didnt ALL believe them, only the democrats and republicans. there were a lot of people in the rest of the world who were doing their research and said it wasnt true. so did the guy they sent to search for them. think his name was scott ritter but im not sure. people were just so desperate to kill somebody that the truth was irrelevent.
that was a great song by johnny cash! woah!
Seems like me and you agree little lady.
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| 1/22/2009 2:59:56 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
omega406
 Chicago, IL age: 32
| if you believe in civil war is because the freedom of owning guns.
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| 1/22/2009 3:58:04 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 stargazzer
 Creighton, NE age: 61 online now!
| The 1st reason for the 2nd amenment is for protection from a government gone bad.
Never thought I would see this in my lifetime, But the presure cooker[the peaple] is getting dangerusly close to blowing the lid off from the exsrteam heat that is being asked of them to take [Govenment coruption and falling in to socialisum and soon the distrustion of the dollar, everything that once was right is now wrong, and everything once was wrong is now right] In the past things have happened and if civil war was to be thought of it was always years away to get that bad. Well today I belive it is very close to maybe being that bad soon?? I think the lid could start to blow most anywere at anytime now and would not take a bet of any size on lasting more than a year and a haff from today with out something major happening to start something. Just the things Oboma has done now in two days is going to turn up the heat alot as peaple learn how this will be affecting them and this is just two days. Buy gold & silver now!! as paper money will not be worth sqwat.
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| 1/22/2009 4:00:03 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
jokergypsy Ashford, WA age: 61
| WHAT about the pics of the kurdish village that was gassed and the people men women and children laying all over the place? ---LUCAS
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| 1/22/2009 4:01:23 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
wvdad2 Bunker Hill, WV age: 41
| bare arms for your rights to be free from opression!
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| 1/22/2009 4:05:29 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
walter55
 Albuquerque, NM age: 52
| WHAT about the pics of the kurdish village that was gassed and the people men women and children laying all over the place? ---LUCAS
I believe that they were destroyed by the inspectors.
David Kay and the rest destroyed tons and tons of it.
The inspectors were pulled out right before the second conflict.
When the U.S. invaded Iraq for the second time,
Saddam was no threat to anyone but his own people.
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| 1/22/2009 4:08:31 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
montgomerymoose Arlington, TX age: 44
| bare arms for your rights to be free from opression!
Good call. I will wear (or is it ware?) a wife-beater so that my arms are BARE.
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| 1/22/2009 4:14:12 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 k_tothe_c
 Las Vegas, NV age: 40
| The troops are being deployed for "civil unrest".
In other words, when the citizens have enough of the government and make a move
to overthrow...they already have "detention facilities" all over the country
set up to house us! There were several threads about this very disturbing topic
last summer.
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| 1/22/2009 4:15:25 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
walter55
 Albuquerque, NM age: 52
| Well we all believed them. Just like we believed Sadam when he said he had them.Whats the problem? our info was wrong and Sadam lied....BFD!!
You sound like Bill Clinton when he knew Al quedia was a credible threat and decided to wait and did nothing......2 extremes.
I dont fault our Government Erring on the side of caution.......
The side of caution?
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More than 4,000 American soldiers killed
More than 25,000 wounded
A bill of almost a trillion dollars
More than 250,000 Iraqi citizens killed or maimed (see Harvard study)
Ten billion dollars a month bill
Military hardware worn out
Decimimation of the National Guard
and the bill hasn't come in yet for the long term care of our vets!!!
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| 1/22/2009 4:17:46 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
wvdad2 Bunker Hill, WV age: 41
| The troops are being deployed for "civil unrest".
In other words, when the citizens have enough of the government and make a move
to overthrow...they already have "detention facilities" all over the country
set up to house us! There were several threads about this very disturbing topic
last summer.
wow someone that is seeing through the curtain!
yes because my friends have been on red alert since since oct on inland duty.
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| 1/22/2009 4:18:39 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 stargazzer
 Creighton, NE age: 61 online now!
| Bet you woun't see any Congress peaple going home LOL When the shit hits the fan.
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| 1/22/2009 4:25:15 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 horserider4ever
 Leadville, CO age: 47
| stargazer comment:The 1st reason for the 2nd amenment is for protection from a government gone bad.
my comment: EXACTLY! but try to explain that to the anitgun idiots.
k_tothe: you are correct, they say they are for "illegal immigrants"...but that is BS. they are for civil unrest. Anyone they deem a threat to their agenda. 
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| 1/22/2009 4:26:39 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
chinatown_girl
 Oyster Bay, NY age: 21
| WHAT about the pics of the kurdish village that was gassed and the people men women and children laying all over the place? ---LUCAS
they might have had them back then but it was witnessed that those were destroyed.
speaking of gassing; if we use "saddam gassed the kurds" as a reason for killing the iraqi people - israel has killed and wounded more palestinians in only a couple of weeks.
r we gonna bomb them? nope -- in fact we give them 3 bill a year and give them weapons of mass destruction.
this johnny cash song is saying it all...
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| 1/22/2009 4:33:24 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 horserider4ever
 Leadville, CO age: 47
| Dugy...Thanks for the vid...and no I have not forgotten, but alot of people have. This also brings to point that the reason we want to keep our guns is if someone comes over here to start crap, they will be resisted by so many millions of people. That is what has kept our country safe from invasion for so many years. Hmmmmm gun control? NOT ON MY LIFE. 
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| 1/22/2009 4:38:17 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 k_tothe_c
 Las Vegas, NV age: 40
| wow someone that is seeing through the curtain!
yes because my friends have been on red alert since since oct on inland duty.
Me too, wvdad2...several of my friends have been put on "inland duty" and
are telling me some very disturbing things. It's scary. ...but then again,
they EXPECT us to be upset when the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT is unvailed.
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| 1/22/2009 4:40:11 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
chinatown_girl
 Oyster Bay, NY age: 21
| Dugy...Thanks for the vid...and no I have not forgotten, but alot of people have. This also brings to point that the reason we want to keep our guns is if someone comes over here to start crap, they will be resisted by so many millions of people. That is what has kept our country safe from invasion for so many years. Hmmmmm gun control? NOT ON MY LIFE. 
its not the people coming over here that r gonna put us in danger; its the government and i dont mean obama who is gonna go after those with guns. first they will round up immigrants (and many of u will sleep through that) then the activists (u will sleep through that and believe we must be terrorists) and then u.
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| 1/22/2009 4:44:28 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 ericr64
 Mount Pleasant, MI age: 45
| Who knows. Nothing would suprise me anymore.
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| 1/22/2009 5:24:27 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 horserider4ever
 Leadville, CO age: 47
| China comment:
Quote from horserider4ever:
Dugy...Thanks for the vid...and no I have not forgotten, but alot of people have. This also brings to point that the reason we want to keep our guns is if someone comes over here to start crap, they will be resisted by so many millions of people. That is what has kept our country safe from invasion for so many years. Hmmmmm gun control? NOT ON MY LIFE.
its not the people coming over here that r gonna put us in danger; its the government and i dont mean obama who is gonna go after those with guns. first they will round up immigrants (and many of u will sleep through that) then the activists (u will sleep through that and believe we must be terrorists) and then u.
my comment: you are absolutely correct in the above statement. WE know this already. I have to admit, you are hard to discern. You seem to be a cross between liberal and conservative. But you hit the nail on the head with your comment. I admire you for that correct deduction of the "agenda". I was commenting to Dugy vid and on government tyranny, dear.
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| 1/22/2009 6:07:17 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
dugydew
 Seattle, WA age: 48
| Horserider
Your Welcome. You know city folks use guns to rob,kill and destroy. Us country boys know how and what guns are for!Protection and safety and Food.
China, they will clear the cities first. When they come for us,theyll know what a fight is.
[Edited 1/22/2009 6:09:16 PM ]
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| 1/22/2009 6:33:21 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 horserider4ever
 Leadville, CO age: 47
| Dugy...oh there you go again with my favorite vid.  
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| 1/23/2009 10:36:12 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 stress_test
 Northport, WA age: 46
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| 1/23/2009 10:45:41 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
blueskiestwo
 Grantsburg, WI age: 39
| Horserider
Your Welcome. You know city folks use guns to rob,kill and destroy. Us country boys know how and what guns are for!Protection and safety and Food.
China, they will clear the cities first. When they come for us,theyll know what a fight is.
    
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| 1/23/2009 10:45:58 PM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 bubba19682007
 Leadville, CO age: 42
| Hazardous materials traing my ass, if that was the case there wouldnt have been explosions. that was urban assult training. That statement was exactly what she was told to say. It sounded too cookie cutterish. They know whats coming. They know that once they start implimenting their shit that we will resist it.
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| 1/24/2009 4:51:16 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
 horserider4ever
 Leadville, CO age: 47
| Stresstest...thanks for the vid. I agree with Bubba that if there was hazardous material in there...for god sake they wouldn't be blowing up the hazardous material in the city limits??!!! Guess they think we are stupid. What a bunch of BS.
And to do this where civlilians are within friendly fire range is just assnine.  
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| 1/24/2009 5:36:43 AM | Is North America preparing for civil war? On U.S. Soil. | |
sapphireblue579
 Jackson, MI age: 51
| jcsx according to the news cast I heard this was a done deal. If true and I suspect that it was and is? To me it means it would be easyer to order to shoot on the civilan population useing forgin troops than american troops, why else would we need them? Or vise versa?
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