| 7/4/2009 7:19:12 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56
| There is not a Human on this planet that can read what crop circles say.
OOH! OOH! I can read what that one says!
And that one!
And that one, too!
I’m not sure I want to read what that one says!
| | 7/5/2009 6:47:06 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53
| Actually there is an Australian scientist who studies crop circles.
The article on the July 7th event is at earthfiles.com -look under archives and then "Astronomical information from the UK".
It's all there in black and white. What we may be dealing with - if we can believe these mathamatical formations - is a solar fare combined with a CME-coronal mass ejection. It may come as close as lunar orbit. Too close for comfort.
Could be the start of something.
We'll soon know.
| | 7/5/2009 8:20:32 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| Seriously, IZZY—not meant to tear you apart [I’m done with that]—just curious how you arrived at those particular countries, and not, say—Spain, Portugal and Turkey.
your far from done u lying jagoff... your not curious you are just looking for another 'angle' of attack....
israel britain US in prophecy
ASK THE LORD FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS ,ASK THE SPIRIT OF GOD INTO YOUR HEART, AND ASK GOD TO HELP YOU CHANGE YOUR WAYS AS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND
| | 7/5/2009 1:34:38 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| Mr Iz your articles interest me greatly. I appreciated your article in reference to 7/11 and the numerology that comes with that. In regards to July 7th do most folks here know what happened 7/7/05
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7/7 was England's 9/11
Anyone with a brain knows this for some years now, already. You can't have a training drill for a specific event, specific time, specific place and then, magicly, the specific event, time, and place happens ON THE VERY INSTANT AND LOCATION OF THE DRILL FOR IT. 7/7 was a murderous inside job. Same at 9/11
The story of 7/7 that we have come to accept was pieced together: four British Muslims - Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, Shehzad Tanweer, 22, Jermaine Lindsay, 19, and Hasib Hussain, 18 - blew themselves up using home-made explosives, killing 56 and injuring 700 on three Tube trains and a double-decker bus. They had traveled on a mainline train from Luton into King's Cross Thameslink Station in London, each carrying a heavy rucksack of explosives.
It is a version of events that has been endorsed by a high-level Parliamentary inquiry and a government report, both published in May 2006 ten months after the event, based on 12,500 statements, a police examination of 142 computers and 6,000 hours of CCTV footage. The report insisted that the bombers acted on their own, constructing explosives from chapatti flour and hair bleach mixed in the bath at a flat in Leeds, Yorkshire, where all four had family and friends. It concluded that the Muslim bombers were not controlled by a terrorist mastermind, but inspired by Al Qaeda ideology picked up on extremist websites.
| | 7/5/2009 3:42:18 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 55
| jongeo:
Actually there is an Australian scientist who studies crop circles. The article on the July 7th event is at earthfiles.com -look under archives and then "Astronomical information from the UK".
It's all there in black and white. What we may be dealing with - if we can believe these mathamatical formations - is a solar fare combined with a CME-coronal mass ejection. It may come as close as lunar orbit. Too close for comfort.
Could be the start of something. We'll soon know.
You need to read my thread in the Religion forum " Here comes the Sun-God". It is exactly what is going on with the Sun and the ascension process. Tied together with other information about what the Mayans knew. It's entirely too much information for you to put together in your mind, because you don't have enough time in the day to assemble the pieces to a multi-dimensional puzzle.
You don't understand what is going on with crop circles, it is simply communication, you don't need a scientist who studies crop circles to tell you. But then again, that is the problem, you actually do because you unfortunatly don't know how to make up your own mind about anything.
These crop circles were all done by Bill & Bob with a lawnmower one Saturday night after a few beers. 
| | 7/5/2009 3:59:12 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56
|
Seriously, IZZY—not meant to tear you apart [I’m done with that]—just curious how you arrived at those particular countries, and not, say—Spain, Portugal and Turkey.
your far from done u lying jagoff... your not curious you are just looking for another 'angle' of attack....
No, seriously—I am done with attacks on you. This doesn’t mean that I no longer believe such attacks are undeserved—nor that I’m apologizing for anything I’ve said in the past [they were very well deserved]—it simply means I have no further wish to “respond in kind.”
I was actually curious as to how you arrived at your conclusion as to which countries were referred to in the prophecy. You’ve provided a link. Good. It’s a good thing to do this, because people are not just sheep who will follow what someone tells them—simply because they are in a position of authority [or imagine themselves to be].
That last comment is not meant to be a put down—but to state what I believe to be a fact. The prophecies you have quoted [and their method of fulfillment] have not panned out. This is simply observation. If you did have any true spiritual authority, I think you would have the fulfilled prophecy to go along with it.
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
[Deuteronomy 18:22]
So people need something of substance. You’ve provided a link—I followed it and
Herbert W. Armstrong. World Wide Church of God. Anglo-Israelism. A well-known heresy with no further backing to it, than the Mormons with Joseph Smith’s historical fiction.
Here’s a little of the reason I find the man so completely F.O.S.
One of the “proofs” he used to demonstrate that the inhabitants of Britain were descended from the Lost Tribes of Israel, was in the very word, “BRITISH.”
He said that in Hebrew, the word “BRITH” [as in B’nai Brith] meant, “covenant.” And the Hebrew word for man was, “ISH.” [This is true.] He reasoned, therefore that “BRITISH,” meant “MAN OF THE COVENANT.”
There’s one big problem with that—Grammar.
“BRIT,” and “ISH’ are both nouns.
But the word, “BRITISH” is made up of a noun and a suffix that turns that noun into an adjective.
The “BRIT” part of the word is a root that derives from the name “BRITAIN”—this is indeed a noun.
But the “ISH” part is merely a suffix that clarifies the root and modifies it. Any time you have an “ISH” ending to a word, it means that the word is describing some kind of quality possessed by the root word.
Thus, “BRITISH” refers to something that has the qualities associated with BRITAIN.
“ISH” is also a suffix used in verbs of French origin, like finish, or punish. If Armstrong’s reasoning was correct, it would mean that finish doesn’t mean to complete something—it means a man from Finland!. Or punish would actually mean a man from the Punjab in India—and not a reward fitting for someone who mangles etymology like that.
Even if Armstrong’s etymology was correct, Anglo-Israelism is simply his theory. It has no real proof behind it. It cannot be proved from the Bible. One can assign certain meanings to things in the Bible [like that the Danish people are descended from the Lost Tribe of Dan]—one can even follow these through consistently. But if they are not based on the truth, it doesn’t matter how logical and consistent they are.
For instance, let’s take Dan. The name sounds really close to Denmark. Certainly it’s possible that the name came from there. But it’s just as certainly not provable. One can choose to believe that—if he wishes—but his belief gives him no authority to proclaim that it is true. [No more than Linus’ belief in the Great Pumpkin proved that there was a Great Pumpkin.]
Legitimate sources credit the origin of the name either to the Daner or (Dani), a North Germanic Tribe. They are mentioned in the 6th century in Jordanes' Getica—or different kings, each named Dan. The Chronicle of Lejre (Chronicon Lethrense) written about 1170 introduces a primeval King Ypper of Uppsala, one of whose three sons was Dan, who afterwards ruled Denmark.
The Eddic poem Rigsthula, tells how the god Ríg (said to be Heimdall), fathered a mortal son named Jarl [noble] later known as Ríg-Jarl. Ríg-Jarl had eleven sons, the youngest of which bore the name Kon the Young (Old Norse Konr Ungr), this name understood to be the origin of the title konungr 'king', though the etymology is in fact untenable. One day, as he was hunting and snaring birds in the forest, a crow spoke to him and suggested he would gain more by going after men, and praised the wealth of "Dan and Danp". The poem breaks off incomplete at that point.
According to Arngrímur Jónsson's Latin epitome of the lost Skjöldungasaga made in 1597:
Ríg (Rigus) was a man not the least among the great ones of his time. He married the daughter of a certain Danp [Old Norse Danpr], lord of Danpsted, whose name was Dana; and later, having won the royal title for his province, left as his heir his son by Dana, called Dan or Danum, all of whose subjects were called Danes.
The name is also derived from a word meaning "flat land", related to German Tenne "threshing floor", English den [cave], Sanskrit dhánu? [desert].
By the same reasoning of the similarity in sound, of the names, we could say that there must be a connection between Syria and ancient Assyria. Maybe there is—but I’ve never seen any proof of it.
Anglo-Israelism is only a possible scenario for what might have happened. [And there are people far more familiar with it, who might give it even less of the benefit of the doubt than I do.]
I read an excellent article that made connections between fictional histories. It created links between J.R.R. Tolkien’s Fourth Age of Middle Earth with Robert E. Howard’s [Conan] Hyborian Age.. Gondor in Middle Earth, became the antecedent of Grondar in Howard’s Pre-Catyclysmic Age. The writer went even so far as to say that the Hobbits migrated out of Middle Earth into another dimension—and became the ancestors of the Munchkins of Oz!
It was entertaining—it was plausible—and it was completely fictional.
| | 7/5/2009 3:59:23 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56
| u lying jagoff... your not curious you are just looking for another 'angle' of attack
Now, about me being a lying jagoff...
[1] I don’t lie.
[2] I don’t jagoff. [I don’t hold there to be anything intrinsically wrong with the practice—it’s just not my choice to do it.
I told you the truth—I was curious as to where you got that idea. And you gave me an answer, like I asked. In my opinion, Herbert W. Armstrong is not worth very much, and I’ve mentioned some of the reasons. You can consider this an attack on you [because you support his ideas], if you like. Certainly, you’re free to give me reasons why you find him convincing. Don’t expect me to just automatically accept your ideas—I’ll judge those ideas on their merits—I don’t accept anything just because a great number of people consider it to be devine.
But I will consider what you have to say. You offered that link on Bill Clinton’s name adding up to 666 in Hebrew and Greek. I’d been thinking that you were just bluffing with that and that there wasn’t anything like that. But I was wrong there. So I give you credit for that piece of info.
But like I said [and hopefully demonstrated], in itself it’s little more than a curiosity. I mean—it’s far more sophisticated than Ronald Wilson Reagan being the AntiChrist because he has six letters in each of his three names—granted that! But I think we’ll find [after Bill Clinton’s death] that it really had no greater significance than that of the other dead president.]
IZZY—I know you believe these things—and my refusal [and others’ refusal] to believe them feels like a personal attack—but how would you respond to a man that kept on telling you the Earth was flat? What would your response be if he kept on insisting on it—regardless of all evidence to the contrary? What would you think of the man’s intelligence?
Or how would you react to a man who in all seriousness proclaimed that 2+2=5? And if you denied what he was saying, he starts quoting from the Bible—telling you to repent your mathematical heresy?
Now, you can take anything I say as if it’s an attack.
As long as you continue to post material with such flimsy proof—I will rebut it, if evidence permits.
You can even consider such responses as a personal attack, if you want. But my responses have always been against the foolishness of what you post—but if you support and approve that foolishness—well, you’ve got to expect some negative feedback.
If it was personal, though—I’d lambaste you whatever you posted. Because then, the issue wouldn’t be about what you were posting—but about you personally.
But I would rather see reasoned dialogue. This doesn’t mean that I’ll probably be any more accepting of what you say—but at least I will be able to see the thought you’ve put into it. And that I can respect—even if I might not agree with the conclusions of that thought.
So, for my own reasons I am attempting to speak more evenly. Take it however you will—but this is not meant to be an attack. I don’t need to do that anymore.
Finally—I have no sins that need forgiveness. And I would say—based on your response to me, you are in far greater need of asking the Lord into your heart than I am into mine. Despite my responses to you [which I hold you were deserving of], as a follower of Christ you were commanded [in many places] to respond differently than you did.
being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
Being defamed, we intreat:
[I Corinthians 4:12-13 [in part]]
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
[Matthew 5:38-48]
And I’ve already changed those ways. There’s no need to stomp all over somebody. All I need do is make my point—calmly and rationally—I’ll let the Truth speak for me [if I have the Truth].
It is beneath Odin’s Way to continually hack at a defeated enemy. To the best of my ability I will follow Odin’s way.
I would suggest you do the same for your God.
| | 7/5/2009 5:30:51 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| Finally—I have no sins that need forgiveness. And I would say—based on your response to me, you are in far greater need of asking the Lord into your heart than I am into mine. Despite my responses to you [which I hold you were deserving of], as a follower of Christ you were commanded [in many places] to respond differently than you did.
U are as vulgar as u r longwinded, your own words condemn you.
Jeremiah 14:20 New Living Translation (NLT)
Lord, we confess our wickednessand that of our ancestors, too.We all have sinned against you.
Romans 3:23 King James Version (KJV)
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 5:12 King James Version (KJV)
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Each child that is born in this country, automatically "owes" the fed $150,000 or more, I forget the number. We can not even begin to pay the interest charges on the debt we owe, and the collateral is "we the people", our national parks, our water, our infrastructure, (Chicago sold it’s parking spaces/meters to a ‘private’ company, it now costs:
Loop: $3.50 an hour
*Near North, Near West and Near South: $2 an hour
Lincoln Park: $1 an hour *North Side: $1 an hour Feb. 20-28.
*West Side: $1 an hour
*South Side: $1 an hour
The $1-an-hour charges will mean a quadrupling of the cost to park at two-thirds of the meters in the city. The city sold a revenue stream worth trillions for just over a billion to Chicago Parking Meters LLC, a subsidiary of Morgan Stanley. Once the initial sale money runs out, the bulk of the revenue will no longer be available to replenish public infrastructure. http://www.progressillinois.com/2009/6/23/columns/welty-curb-enthusiasm
Is it not realistic to think that big league politicians, bankers, and CEOs are loyal to no nation when they were massively enriched by internationalized banking, internationalized trade, absurd and illegal taxation, and by interest rates forced upon the people of this nation, while at the same time selling our nation to other central banks around the world and “private parties” - and for personal profit? Truth is, they sold the infrastructure first, and then they sold we the people as tax generators and life-long human resources to their global banking and business partners in crime.
What is the crime, you ask? The Federal Reserve, which is a piece of a global banking cartel, and their politicians and CEO partners who made counterfeiting and Ponzi/pyramid schemes legalized theft on continental scales. Your country is 1) not your country and, 2) not what you thought it was for at least 100 years. You are going to have to seek God’s grace to be relieved from the bitterness of that truth. Today, we don’t know under whose authority we live, but Washington, D.C. and the Federal Reserve do know.
Big, big changes are on the horizon. All I can tell you is: Prepare yourselves because Obama spoke the truth. It is all about “infrastructure.” The promised change has arrived. The question is this: who owns America? Who have the American people been committed to serving and beneath what form of government?
We can pretty much assume that Asia owns a very large chunk of America, as does Great Britain, India, Middle Eastern countries, and perhaps Mexico and Canada, as well. We can also assume that Martial Law armies will be guarding all the sold “assets” during what could be an extraordinary and massively tyrannical transfer of power. The love of money is the root of all evil. No truer words were ever spoken.
Nibiru is just the 'icing on the cake'.
[Edited 7/5/2009 5:32:06 PM PST]
| | 7/5/2009 5:43:18 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
twohawks
Bothell, WA
age: 70
| And remember......Mr. Izzy has discovered "God" and that makes him perfect, but the rest of us are no account sinners. But that's ok! The alleged Christ (And there is no proof that he ever existed) "died" for our sins. Evidently that didn't work too well. We are all still sinning.
| | 7/5/2009 10:26:28 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53
| This thread is going all over the place.
I'm not sure about any objects but I am sure about real science and real scientists looking at recent crop circles in England.
The site I ref is earthfiles.com. Articles in archives on Milk Hill-July 2 and Astronomical information from UK on May 12th.
Linda Moulton Howe's copywrite policy is to allow article to be summerized with web ref and copywrite policy.
I'm not going to try that to any major extent because there is a fair amount of astronomical calculations.
Briefly though, according to the scientists several CME's(coronal mass ejections) will be emitted and have an impact on earth. Several crop circles give planetary positions.
Their deciphering of the symbols may not be exact -but the science is pretty convincing.
Please don't hijack this thread to rant on your own agenda.
[Edited 7/5/2009 10:46:14 PM PST]
| | 7/5/2009 10:33:09 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
azmetalfan
Mesa, AZ
age: 31
| Things happen all the time in space that we can't or don't understand. Also everytime a solar event happens people freak out and don't realize the solar flares are an everyday thing. That does not mean the world will come to an end on July 7th or any other day soon.
| | 7/5/2009 11:18:41 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
travalone
Strafford, MO
age: 57
| July 7th is a date heathens celebrate.
I'm not sure my sister would appreciate that statement since July 7th is her birthday. And she is definitly NOT a heathen.
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I have always found the crop circle phenomenon interesting and the one thing that strikes me is the unexplained energy fields found in some circles. These energy fields seem to only be present in the crop circles that defy explanation.
Obviously, alot of the circles are man made, but what about the others. Quite a few of them are much too intricate to have been created over night by pranksters.
I do wonder why an unknown force (some might call it an alien force) would create a crop circle that looks like a Jewish Menorah. That one, I'll bet is man made.
But, don't ask me why any of this happens, I have no explanation for it either.
There is a incredible amount about this universe that no one has been able to explain. I sometimes wonder if mankind will last long enough to even scratch the surface.
JMHO ..... Mike
| | 7/5/2009 11:29:04 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 55
| Who are the circle makers?- 5 min - Educate yourself / plain and simple, yet so very complicated to wrap your mind around.
| | 7/6/2009 2:21:15 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
hotvegas3
North Las Vegas, NV
age: 36
| Absolutely nothing will happen on July 7th, end of story. Thread closed.
| | 7/6/2009 7:01:33 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
twohawks
Bothell, WA
age: 70
| Absolutely nothing will happen on July 7th, end of story. Thread closed.
Actually something will happen on July 7th. Midnight will come around and it will become July 8th.
| | 7/6/2009 7:18:08 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53
| Hey Jewelz can you post that youtube address or detail-can't view it from this thread
| | 7/6/2009 8:04:02 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53
| OK I just watched a vid by that title with an English girl talking,channeling?the answer. It says we the collective consciousness are the makers.
This sounds like higher plane mischief. In other words a person can become virtually possessed by these spirits who have only a slight advantage? over us. Are they stuck?
Anyone can make up that sort of mumble jumble oooo! Ahhh!
What this thread is about is crop circles and is the math reliable. I'm not tying in end of world and religion here -Izzy is doing that. I'm trying to keep it simple -I can see people are have trouble following my simple premise - crop circle math -actual event.
Now I do know of that web predictor that looks at the web and comes up with indications of this or that. I know consciousness spans across time.
The video also said "as they are directed to do" without saying how is our consciouness directed. Why England?
Spaceweather.com has information on some new really hot sunspot activity.
You nay sayers can start packin. You imagine the odds on your side an they are but already we see increased sun activity after a very long quiet time.
| | 7/6/2009 8:59:49 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| And remember......Mr. Izzy has discovered "God" and that makes him perfect, but the rest of us are no account sinners. But that's ok! The alleged Christ (And there is no proof that he ever existed) "died" for our sins. Evidently that didn't work too well. We are all still sinning.
2 Peter 2:18 New International Version (NIV)
For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error.
Psalm 50:19 King James Version (KJV)
Thou givest thy mouth to evil, and thy tongue frameth deceit.
Psalm 50:18-20 New Living Translation (NLT)
Your mouth is filled with wickedness,and your tongue is full of lies.
Just because I seek God does not make me perfect, I have never said I am without sin. But I will say you are a liar.
Is there any scientific proof of God?
Before we can discuss the existence of scientific proof of God, we need to identify what we mean by proof. Also, to know what type of evidence supporting the existence of God would be considered by science, we also need to know which definition of science applies.
The definition of science has changed within the last century from an overall search for truth to a more limited scope of natural explanations of natural processes. Using the current narrow scope definition, there is not any scientific proof of God. The truth or untruth of this statement is not based upon evidence or lack of evidence, but by definition alone. Even though there is extensive, solid evidence for God’ s existence, none of that evidence would be admissible in the science court of law using the current definition.
Consequently, to know what evidence really supports the existence of God, we need to base our statements on the old classic definition of science to eliminate the disqualification of the evidence. The kind of evidence we need to consider is the same type that would be admissible in a court of law.
The level of proof is different in a criminal court than a civil court. In a civil court the prosecution only needs to prove that the preponderance of evidence tips the scales in their direction. Alternatively, in a criminal court a higher level of proof is required. The prosecutor needs to provide evidence that proves the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
What types of evidence are admissible in courtrooms? These include direct evidence such as fingerprints, DNA, or eyewitness accounts. Also, circumstantial evidence is normally admissible unless it is abnormally weak. Although circumstantial evidence is indirect, it can be powerful evidence to prove guilt or innocence.
Scientific Proof of God – The Evidence
What evidence exists that could prove the existence or non-existence of God? Does God exist?
First, the non-existence of God cannot be proven. One cannot prove a universal negative. Alternatively, the existence of God is provable.
The concept, design, and intricate details of our world necessitate an intelligent designer.
Both direct and indirect evidence for God’s existence are well known and well documented. Nothing in history is better known or better documented than the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. We even use the year of His birth as the basis for our calendar. He perfectly matched the over 100 unique Messianic prophecies in the Old Testament regarding His birth, life, death, and resurrection. The laws of probability cannot give us a reasonable explanation for either the Messianic predictions or the resurrection, let alone both by the same person.
Jesus’ miracles were witnessed by many and were documented redundantly for additional corroboration. He was seen by at least 500 people after His resurrection. He was seen ascending into heaven. His transfiguration was seen by Peter, James, and John. His wisdom in dealing with many circumstances was astounding. He never promoted Himself or His miracles. C. S. Lewis stated that He couldn’t have just been a good teacher. He was either a liar, lunatic, or Lord. He didn’t even come close to meeting the profile of a liar or lunatic, so He had to be God.
Jesus Christ also supported the truth of the Old Testament and quoted it many times. Consequently, with Jesus Christ, we have an eyewitness to the truth of the Old Testament. This gives credibility to the creation account and God’s interaction with man. The entire Old Testament account is about how God is trying to have a relationship with man while man is separating himself from God by sin. It tells how God is long-suffering and merciful and ultimately how God sent His Son to die for our sins so God could ultimately have a relationship with us.
God’s interaction with man in the Old Testament was often and powerful. Some of the main interactions included Adam, Cain, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Joshua, the Israelites, the prophets, and the kings. In addition to Jesus’ testimony to the truth of the Old Testament, ancient manuscripts, archaeology, and internal consistency also testify to its truth. Consequently, much direct evidence including eyewitness accounts and indirect evidence corroborate the existence of God and the truth of the Bible.
As humans, we rely on archaeology as one of the main sources of uncovering history.
Archaeological proof of God
There seems to be quite a bit of 'evidence' supporting the bible and the resurrection, and there is considerably more than what I have posted here. On the other hand, the only thing supporting your statements is your lying mouth.
"There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. Einstein,
sorry to sidetrack this thread but, I just can't let something like, (The alleged Christ And there is no proof that he ever existed) go by uncontested.
[Edited 7/6/2009 9:04:12 AM PST]
| | 7/9/2009 9:00:38 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56
| Finally—I have no sins that need forgiveness. And I would say—based on your response to me, you are in far greater need of asking the Lord into your heart than I am into mine. Despite my responses to you [which I hold you were deserving of], as a follower of Christ you were commanded [in many places] to respond differently than you did. U are as vulgar as u r longwinded, your own words condemn you.
And if my posts were in agreement with everything you say—would they be long winded then?
In all my long winded post, you found only one thing worth quoting—the one thing you felt you could withstand me with Scriptural backing. It is, after all, the Christian’s ambition to have these Scriptures fulfilled in them:
For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
[Luke 21:15]
Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
[Titus 1:11]
But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
[I Corinthians 14:24-25]
Well done, thou good and faithful servant.
I noticed that along with my statement about not having any sin that needed forgiving, you left out the Scriptural passages I quoted. An oversight, certainly. I’ll quote the whole passage for you again:
Finally—I have no sins that need forgiveness. And I would say—based on your response to me, you are in far greater need of asking the Lord into your heart than I am into mine. Despite my responses to you [which I hold you were deserving of], as a follower of Christ you were commanded [in many places] to respond differently than you did.
being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
Being defamed, we intreat:
[I Corinthians 4:12-13 [in part]]
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
[Matthew 5:38-48]
It seems you’re quick to pounce on me where you feel I’m in violation of the Scriptures—but you’re not so quick to respond when accusations are leveled against you.
Why is that, IZZY? Were the Scriptures I quoted not appropriate? Have your responses to me been truly Christian ones? Were you truly speaking the Truth in Love?
“U are as vulgar as u r longwinded”
“u lying jagoff”
“you get uglier with each word you utter”
“You are such an obnoxious hypocrite”
Perhaps you didn’t respond because no answer is possible. Let’s put it this way—by your own words, you are far more condemned before your God than I am. I’m not a believer. I’m not expected to show Christ to the world.
What’s your excuse?
Now I will answer your accusations:
You say my own words condemn me. My words which say, “I have no sins that need forgiveness.” To prove your point you post three Scripture verses. These are my responses.
Jeremiah 14:20 New Living Translation (NLT)
Lord, we confess our wickednessand that of our ancestors, too.We all have sinned against you.
Jeremiah was a Jew. He was writing to the nation of Israel. The Jews did not proselytize.
I am not a Jew. I am therefore not subject to the Laws of the God of Israel.
Romans 3:23 King James Version (KJV)
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
John specifically spells out what sin actually is:
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
[I John 3:]
Therefore—I do not commit sin, because not being a Jew, I am not subject to the Law of the God of Israel.
The Christian conception is that before the Law of Moses there was no law anywhere on the Earth. This is untrue. The Code of Hammurabi, for instance can be traced back to 1790 B.C. This was several centuries before the Mosaic Law existed.
But the concept of sin is something entirely different from the concept of evil, in any other culture. The Judeo-Christian concept is that sinful man is totally depraved and spiritually bankrupt. He doesn’t just do evil out of a failure to make the right moral choice—he is utterly incapable of making that choice. Man is evil through and through and there’s not a damned thing he can do about it!
The Code of Hammurabi did not set forth an inhuman standard that no man could possibly obey—that was not its purpose. Hammurabi’s code [like most legal systems] was there to bring order to the society.
But Moses’ Law was created for a completely different reason:
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
[Romans 3:19]
Its purpose was to bring slavery to man.
to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile
[Romans 2:10 [in part]]
This it has done by getting Man to accept a story in which he is the villain!—the Archenemy—who deserves everything he gets.
Romans 5:12 King James Version (KJV)
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Thus people have been hoodwinked into thinking they’re guilty simply for being born!
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
[Psalm 51:5]
But there are those of us who will not bow our necks to such tyranny—simply because the weak and cowardly are stupid enough to believe a book which they think gives them the authority to tell us to.
| | 7/9/2009 12:02:21 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
travalone
Strafford, MO
age: 57
| WHOOOOOOOOOOOOPS!!
July 7th came and went without a wimper.
Or did I miss some earth shattering event?
Maybe the crop circles ment July 7, 2010
Yea, that's probably it. they ment July 7th of next year.
Oh Well, I hope to be alive then (but accidents do happen) so I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
Mike
| | 7/9/2009 12:06:57 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| But there are those of us who will not bow our necks to such tyranny—simply because the weak and cowardly are stupid enough to believe a book which they think gives them the authority to tell us to.
Satan can appear as being of light and that is what you are trying to do. You are 'testing' me. (in front of an audience) That is why I ignor your posts and all I have to say to your evil ambition is:
Obedience to every word of god is what we need, do not put the Lord to a foolish test,
(so I refuse to argue with you), Worship only the Lord. Obey only Him.
| | 7/9/2009 12:19:05 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
noredneckhere
Knoxville, TN
age: 49
| WHOOOOOOOOOOOOPS!!
July 7th came and went without a wimper.
Or did I miss some earth shattering event?
Maybe the crop circles ment July 7, 2010
Yea, that's probably it. they ment July 7th of next year.
Oh Well, I hope to be alive then (but accidents do happen) so I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
Mike
Well, YOU being a NON-BELIEVER, without a tinfoil hat, obviously missed it !!!!!
I did too !!!!!!
| | 7/9/2009 12:33:15 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| concerning the date 7/11/09 due to its relation to the end-point of the Mayan calendar, (1,260 days before).
Steve Quayle's recent interviews with Tom Horn have touched on this but Tom is focused more on the possibility that 12/21/2012 is the starting point and not the mid-point of the last week of Daniel. (7 year tribulation)
It is very clear that the United States Great Seal points to the year 2016. It may be the end-point or it may be the mid-point.
However,July 11th clearly marks 1,260 days before the time of year of "giving gifts and making merry" when the two witnesses are killed. Revelation 11:3
This would be Christmas in 2012:
And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. Revelation 11:10
If we measure 1,260 days after 12/21/2012, the date falls on June 4th 2016 and would not fit the middle of the 7 years aligning with Christmas. Christmas is the time of the birth of Horus, or Apollo as Tom Horn has outlined. It is a perfect statement of the Illuminati that the Antichrist would take up reign in the temple of God on this date.
Revelation 11 not only clearly marks the 1,260 day prophecy of the two witnesses at the beginning of the 7 year tribuation, it also describes the temple mount divided between the gentiles and the Jews. In fact, when the dimensions of the temple of Ezekiel are superimposed on the temple mount to the north of the Muslim Dome of the Rock, there is a space of about on reed between them. The outer court, or court of the gentiles is left out!
Revelation 11:1,2 I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, "Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count the worshipers there But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.(1,260 days)
This scenario is being prepared:
ROME (LifeSiteNews.com) - Pope Benedict XVI is expected to meet with President Obama at the Vatican July 10 starting at 4 p.m., reports the Catholic News Service today.
The long -expected meeting will take place after President Obama attends a G8 summit July 8-10 in the Italian town of L'Aquila.
Concerning this meeting, Barry Chamish wrote:
"On July 10, Pres. Obama attends the final session of the G8 gathering in Rome and then meets the "ex"-Nazi pope Benedict XVI. There, a proclamation will be forthcoming, outlining the end of Israel. PM Netanyahu has been running around Paris and Rome trying to short-circuit the fateful event but to no avail. At this meeting, the world, EU, UN, Quartet, CFR...all the real decision makers, will give Israel the final ultimatum...Clear the "settlements," divide Jerusalem, because, if not, Israel will suffer the wrath of a total war; economic, financial, and finally, a military attack on the country. BY EVERYONE.
By dividing Jerusalem, the problem of the temple mount comes into play. The only solution that fits prophecy is the dividing of the temple mount itself. The setting up a the 3rd temple is the foremost goal of the Illuminati.
The event that I am anticipating on July 11th is this temple mount solution... the confirming of a covenant with "many".
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,
The event that I am anticipating on July 11th is this temple mount solution... the confirming of a covenant with "many".
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,
It is this confirmation that begins the last 7 years of history. The identity of the one confirming the covenant with many is still up in the air.
In all recent history there has never been an event where all the world Illumined elite has gathered to decide the fate of Jerusalem.. but they will be this month. This decision will be set in Rome, the seat of the harlot of Revelation. It will occur precisely 1,260 days before 12/21/2012. It will fall 72 and 73 days after Obamas 100th day in office, as he predicted.
A pre-type of this event is found in biblical history:
Ezr 1:1 Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and [put it] also in writing, saying, Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, The LORD God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and he hath charged me to build him an house at Jerusalem, which [is] in Judah.
Ezr 3:6 From the first day of the seventh month began they to offer burnt offerings unto the LORD. But the foundation of the temple of the LORD was not [yet] laid.
In fact, it took 2 years from the beginning of the daily sacrifices on an altar on the temple mount that the building of the temple even began.
There need be no sacrifice on the temple mount on July 11th, no construction of the temple, no war, no cataclysmic event on earth, only a confirmation of a plan that produces a reinstitution of temple sacrifice and eventual rebuilding. This would mark July 11th as the beginning of the tribulation.
Saturday the 11th of July 2009 will soon be here. It nothing happens... then at least we have all studied the bible a bit more.
| | 7/9/2009 12:47:38 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53
| ...Studied the Bible a bit more. Yes that's what it is all about. Woe to those who have disdain for the word of God. They are steeped in blindness. Thanks for the info Izzy. At least someone is TRYING, even if it means sticking your neck out for the chopping block...even if you get a little sensational at times.
I know I have trouble putting the pieces together. Maybe there will be a solar flare July 10th or 11th representing God's displeasure. Such things have happened before...
| | 7/9/2009 1:02:34 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
librajason
Gateway, AR
age: 34
| Who are the circle makers?- 5 min - Educate yourself / plain and simple, yet so very complicated to wrap your mind around.
Interesting video............but I still think they could show a little more respect & find somewhere else to park.....the bastards.
[Edited 7/9/2009 1:03:59 PM PST]
| | 7/9/2009 1:26:31 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| wondering why we haven't heard anything about iranian protests since PTB supposedly put down the rebellion? I spose it's much more soothing to cry about jacko than worry about what's really going on in the world. stupid media BS.
Iran (AP) — Hundreds of young men and women chanted "death to the dictator," confronting police wielding batons and firing tear gas in the capital Thursday as opposition activists sought to revive street protests despite authorities' vows to "smash" any new marches.
For days, supporters of opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi have been calling for new protests in Tehran and other cities on Thursday, their first significant attempt to get back on the streets since security forces crushed massive demonstrations nearly two weeks ago in Iran's postelection turmoil.
Tehran governor Morteza Tamaddon warned that any new march Thursday would meet the same fate.
"If some individuals plan to carry out any anti-security actions by listening to calls by counterrevolutionary networks, they will be smashed under the feet of our aware people," he said, according to the state news agency IRNA in a report late Wednesday.
Thursday afternoon, a stepped-up number of uniformed policemen along with plainclothes Basiji militiamen stood at intersections all along Revolution Street and at nearby near Tehran University, some of the sites where protests were called.
Still, a group of around 300 young people gathered in front of Tehran University and began to chant, "Death to the dictator," witnesses said. Many of them wore green surgical masks, the color of Mousavi's movement.
Police charged at them, swinging batons, but the protesters fled, then regrouped at another corner and resumed chanting, the witnesses said. Police chased them repeatedly as the protesters continued to regroup, the witnesses said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they feared government retribution.
Within an hour, the number of protesters grew to about 700 and marched toward the gates of Tehran University, the witnesses said. A line of policemen blocked their path, but they did nothing to disperse the gathering as the protesters stood and continued to chant, the witnesses said.
At another location, on Valiasr Street, around 200 protesters gathered, and police fired tear gas to disperse them, but the demonstrators sought to regroup elsewhere, the witnesses said.
Soon after the confrontations began, mobile phone service was cut off in Tehran, a step that was also taken during the height of the post-election protests to cut off communications. Mobile phone messaging has been cut in the country for the past three days.
They were the first such protests in 11 days, since the crackdown — though it did not compare to the hundreds of thousands who joined the marches that erupted after the June 12 presidential election, protesting what the opposition said were fraudulent results.
The calls for a new march have been circulating for days on social networking websites and pro-opposition websites. Opposition supporters planned the marches to coincide with the anniversary Thursday of a 1999 attack by Basij on a Tehran University dorm to stop protests in which one student was killed.
Ahead of Thursday's planned march, authorities appeared to have taken a number of other steps to prevent participation, including the halting of SMS messaging. The government also closed down universities and called a government holiday on Tuesday and Wednesday, citing a heavy dust and pollution cloud that has blanketed Tehran and other parts of the country this week.
Mousavi and his pro-reform supporters say he won the election, which official results showed as a landslide victory for incumbent hard-liner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei declared the results valid after a partial recount and warned that unrest would not be tolerated.
In the crackdown since the election, at least 20 protesters and 7 Basijis were killed.
Hundreds protest in Iran, defy crackdown vow.
| | 7/9/2009 1:45:09 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56
| Satan can appear as being of light and that is what you are trying to do. You are 'testing' me. (in front of an audience) That is why I ignor your posts and all I have to say to your evil ambition is:
Obedience to every word of god is what we need, do not put the Lord to a foolish test,
(so I refuse to argue with you), Worship only the Lord. Obey only Him.
Since when did Satan ever use the TRUTH? That’s what I’ve been trying to get out of you for a while. I’ve asked you several times how [in the light of such Scriptures such as I Corinthians 4:12-13; Matthew 5:38-48; and right now—James 3:8-12, you can justify [as a Christian] saying such things to me as,
“U are as vulgar as u r longwinded”
“u lying jagoff”
“you get uglier with each word you utter”
“You are such an obnoxious hypocrite”
Now you say I’m only “testing you”—and that in front of an audience. Well, I’ve just E-mailed you pretty much the same questions, and thus have given you a chance to respond to me in private. And before everybody here, I say that I will not post your reply [if you choose to reply] here on DH [that way, if I do, everyone can hold me to be a liar].
If I was as Satan trying to appear as an angel of light, don’t you think I’d first agree with what you say, and then subtly try to lead you astray and corrupt you? Instead, I come here openly as a Vassal of Odin—I do not try to hide as a Christian—I am openly the enemy of the White Christ. His forces drove us back a thousand years ago—He gets that shot for free.
And at the risk of being insulting, I’m going to say this: When I was a Christian I would hear how both Muhammad and Joseph Smith were guided by angels. It was common for Christians to say that these were “false angels”
This always rang wrong to me—even in the Christian days. It wasn’t that I thought there weren’t such things. Unfortunately it took me too long to realize why this idea these people had was wrong, and I was unable to tell the people involved what I thought.
You take a look at the character of the two men. Muhammad was quite the honest—and good man. To deceive someone like him and turn him from the path of God would have required a “false angel.”
But Joseph Smith was a liar and a scammer from the beginning. No false angel was needed—he invented his own, by himself quite nicely and put it in that historical fiction of his, that he called the Book of Mormon.
The issue with these Christians [who believed that just because a man claims he has seen an angel, means that he really has seen an angel], was one of discernment—they couldn’t tell the difference between a good and honest man—and a scammer.
I’ve been doing my best to keep away from insulting you, IZZY. But there isn’t any pleasant way of saying this:
No “Satan” appearing as an angel of light; no false angel; no lying spirit; no “false brethren” are necessary to deceive you—you do this by yourself.
In the Christian way of thinking—a false Gabriel was necessary to deceive Muhammad. This would enable this otherwise good man to begin one of the world’s most powerful religions.
What would be the use of Satan sending even his bootblack to you? You aren’t going to start a new religion, IZZY—you’re not important enough, and no one listens to you.
Now, you say you are ignoring my posts because I’m just “testing” you. I say—you’re refusing to answer that one—because you have no answer. You KNOW that is not the way a Christian is supposed to act.
But refusing to respond to me will change nothing. You don’t have to answer to me—but you WILL have to respond to the God you have chosen. Do not think you can escape. Have you not heard?
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
[Hebrews 10:31]
| | 7/9/2009 6:40:02 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
|
as I replied to you in your PM...I am ready to answer to God, as for you...get f**ked.
| | 7/9/2009 7:00:54 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
twohawks
Bothell, WA
age: 70
| as I replied to you in your PM...I am ready to answer to God, as for you...get f**ked.
My goodness! Such nice talk for an ALLEGED "Christian"!
| | 7/9/2009 7:03:40 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
lostinwyoming
Evanston, WY
age: 52
| i missed it! did anybody get it on video? 
| | 7/9/2009 7:08:18 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| My goodness! Such nice talk for an ALLEGED "Christian"! hey twofaced...f**k you too.
NK starts WWIII tomorrow by firing a missile over Japan towards Hawaii, and the US shoots it down.
They get pissed and throw a few shells over the 38th to the south.
The S.Koreans get pissed and lob a few back.
Then it's on.
NK invades S.Korea, and the US is forced to use tactical nukes to stop their advance.
China intercedes and cuts off all trade to the US.
The US starts to collapse, but then Israel nukes Iran.
Iran nukes Isreal.
Isreael then implements "Sampson Option" and all Islamic population centers are destroyed, as well as all cultural and religios sites.
Russia responds to help Iran.
The US responds to help Israel.
Russian nukes American cities (sorry blue people)
The US nukes Russian cities.
Meanwhile, China invade Taiwan.
The US responds to Chinese invasion.
China, due to sheer numbers, overcomes initial US response and launches a land invasion of the United States.
The only people left in the US are Red People, and they are loaded for bear.
The Chinese are stopped at the rockie mountains. The US President, now in Kansas City, will enlist the aide of some extraterrestrials.
The chinese withdraw - havine lost 2/3 of the population.
The US will have gone from 380 million to less than 100 million.
Israel is uninhabitable for 10k years by anybody.
Iran is uninhabitable for 10k years by anybody.
(Europe tries to stay neutral, but they help the US after the extraterrestrials show up)
That's how it goes down.
And it all starts.
Tomorrow.
| | 7/11/2009 12:21:32 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56
| hey twofaced...f**k you too.
I was wrong, IZZY—you do speak like a Christian—well, you do sound like somebody who quotes from the Bible—well, a particular part of the Bible, anyway—but a part that must be important—since they tell the same story twice!
[Those of tender ears and constitution might want to avert their eyes from the next two quotes.]
But Rab-shakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you.
[II Kings 18:27]
But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?
[Isaiah 36:12]
Okay—now that that’s out of the way—let’s deal with the prediction.
NK starts WWIII tomorrow by firing a missile over Japan towards Hawaii, and the US shoots it down.
They get pissed and throw a few shells over the 38th to the south.
The S.Koreans get pissed and lob a few back.
Then it's on.
NK invades S.Korea, and the US is forced to use tactical nukes to stop their advance.
China intercedes and cuts off all trade to the US.
The US starts to collapse, but then Israel nukes Iran.
Iran nukes Isreal.
Isreael then implements "Sampson Option" and all Islamic population centers are destroyed, as well as all cultural and religios sites.
Russia responds to help Iran.
The US responds to help Israel.
Russian nukes American cities (sorry blue people)
The US nukes Russian cities.
Meanwhile, China invade Taiwan.
The US responds to Chinese invasion.
China, due to sheer numbers, overcomes initial US response and launches a land invasion of the United States.
The only people left in the US are Red People, and they are loaded for bear.
The Chinese are stopped at the rockie mountains. The US President, now in Kansas City, will enlist the aide of some extraterrestrials.
The chinese withdraw - havine lost 2/3 of the population.
The US will have gone from 380 million to less than 100 million.
Israel is uninhabitable for 10k years by anybody.
Iran is uninhabitable for 10k years by anybody.
(Europe tries to stay neutral, but they help the US after the extraterrestrials show up)
That's how it goes down.
And it all starts.
Tomorrow.
Okay. I’m writing this at 11:28 P.M. on Friday, July 10, 2009. IZZY posted what I’m quoting from at 7/9/2009 7:08:18 PM.
Unless I’m completely wrong, “tomorrow” would be referring to “today”—right now. Because he wrote this on the 9th when “tomorrow” would be the 10th—and its currently the 10th. So I’m just wondering—
Did WW III just happen and I friggin’ MISSED it?
I’ve got a much simpler solution—
Has anyone noticed that IZZY’s predictions are getting closer and closer to the time of their utterance?
Last year he was predicting Hilary Clinton was going to become Obama’s running mate—I imagine this was several months before Obama chose who he actually chose.
On June 18th, the prediction was that on June 21st—20 [or 25—who’s counting?] American cities were going to get nuked.
Jongeo started this thread [about the Crop Circles pointing to “something” on July 7th] on June 30th.
IZZY made his first post on this thread on July 1.
The Sun, our Sun, will be hit by a long since dead dwarf star. It has been named Hellion-1957. It was discovered December 22nd 1956. ... and for all you shills out there who want to try debunk this.......be my guest
Now he’s predicting big stuff happening, one day in advance.
A few months. Then a few days. Now—only a day.
We do live in pretty frightening times. To the minds of many, a nuclear strike is not that remote a possibility. I think what IZZY is doing, is what is called in the business, “Splashing the Markets.” This is a term writers use. Keep sending stories out—sure, you’ll mostly get rejection slips—but the more you saturate the editors with your manuscripts, the sooner it’s likely one will get published.
Likewise, IZZY feels that if he keeps on making loopy predictions, sure, most of them will fall by the wayside—but sooner or later, ONE OF THEM’S GOT TO COME TRUE. And when it does—IZZY’s one successful prediction will mean more to the survivors than his 99 false ones.
At least—I feel that’s what he’s counting on.
I’m counting on the majority of people on this planet [to say nothing of DH] are not idiots.
On the mantelpiece above his fireplace, IZZY keeps an old clock. It’s been broken for years. It doesn’t keep accurate time—in fact it doesn’t tell the time at all. Its twin hands reach unequally towards the heaven in a mute and fruitless prayer. Yet IZZY keeps this antiquated, pre-digital relic around because he says “It inspires him.”
How could IZZY find inspiration in such a clock [which is incorrect for 1,442 of its 1,444 minutes a day]?
“Well, I figure if I make over a thousand prophecies—at least two of them have got to be right—even a stopped clock is right twice a day—right?”
| | 7/11/2009 12:35:08 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
azmetalfan
Mesa, AZ
age: 31
| Oh shit does this mean we are all dead???!!!!!!!!
 
| | 7/11/2009 9:11:03 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| Now he’s predicting big stuff happening, one day in advance.]
man you are really DENSE.
That previous post was meant as a joke, I took all the doom info that's online and put it in one paragraph.
But voevode is no joke, this guy is seriously warped and anti christ. He makes these huge longwinded posts taking my ‘predictions’ (which a prediction is basically a guess based on observable evidence) out of context and puts a spin on them to suggest that ‘God’ does not exist.
He calls them prophecies.
He makes blasphemous references about the bible.
He says that I am trying to get something out of this ? other than telling folks to turn to God, (for the end is here) or just providing information. [blocked site] which you can either heed or ignore, but certainly it is your choice)
One thing you might ask yourselves is why is he going to so much trouble to debunk me. Either his ego is inflated out of control and he has way too much free time on his hands. Or he is doing his best to confuse others so that they will follow him to hell….(IMO the latter seems more correct, and I guess if that’s true it would explain the ego/free time thing.
I certainly have been wrong about certain dates.
June 21st, Isn’t this date 3.5 years before dec. 21 2012? This prophetic date was incorporated into a thread about a UK paper (the telegraph) There is a comic in this rag that was used during WW2 to send hidden code messages for the military and it was determined that it was being used again. Code breakers figured out what the ‘message’ was. They determined that there was info which said there would be a falseflag US nuclear attack on a couple dozen US targets June 21,22. It was either a hoax, or a dry run.
There have also been crop circles pointing to some type of sun event around july 4th-11. And there has been some sun events, ( sun spots, unknown objects approaching the sun, solar flares, etc.) which are currently going on. (we are presently being hit by such intense solar energy that the magnetosphere graph is being blasted off the charts)
There are several more predictions for July. The 21, as this date falls 1240? (whatever ? the prophetic number of days foretold in Daniel) days before Dec. 2012.
Trying to determine if prophecy is being fulfilled has been my on going pursuit. The Mayan’s were not the only group that came up with 2012 as the ‘end of the world’. There are several different civilizations, from different generations, from different parts of the world who would have had no way of communicating with one another that all arrived at this same year. The main ‘marker’ that I have been going by is the end of the Mayan calendar Dec.21 2012. (which I believe is described in the bible as the 6th seal. According to the 70th wks. of Daniel, the 6th seal is opened at the midpoint of the tribulation.)
The great pyramids also contain clues about what years certain events in history are supposed to occur. According to pyramid timelines the end of civilization is due.
Obamyself and the Pope are having a meeting today. It appears that he is leading us to a middle east peace pact (one that would include the division of Jerusalem) and a new reserve currency.(NWO)
A seven year Israeli peace treaty is supposed to mark the beginning of the trib. Will G8 force this treaty into existence or will it provoke war? My feeling is that Israel will make a move shortly, it will either agree to allow the Palestinian state to peacefully coexist, (yea right) or it will nuke Iran. (which could trigger a nuclear exchange)
If nothing happens by July 21 then there will be no ‘markers’ left to base any further predictions on. Dec 2012 is the ONLY substantial and known date that could be used to figure out the timelines of prophecy.
So this is either IT…or not…but regardless, voevode is f**ked up.
All I am suggesting (and what I believe) is that: the world belongs to Satan, he has the entire world deceived, his time is running out so he is making it even more difficult for the sheep to believe and endure. If you want eternal life in heaven with God then turn to Him and believe. Does it really matter if the end of the world is here or not, NO, you should want to turn to God anyway...but personally I think it is the beginning of the end...and we shall soon see...
| | 7/11/2009 4:31:15 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | pariah2
Spring, TX
age: 42
| what happened to the crop circle
| | 7/12/2009 8:24:10 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| UFO captured on SOHO coincides with crop circle prediction
The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) has captured satellite images of what appears to be a UFO entering into the sun after a solar flare. The flare was part of a series that had been predicted by a crop circle. The Milk Hill crop circle evolved over three stages from June 21-30. It had a coded message predicting solar activity in the form of Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) beginning on July 6/7. The UFO is not a planet and does not have the characteristics of a comet both of which are regularly captured on SOHO images. The UFO is seen moving through a solar flare that appeared on July 9 after a CME is ejected. With the large amount of interest generated in the crop circle prediction, the UFO may have been related in some way.
UFO captured on SOHO
| | 7/12/2009 4:41:00 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53
| So the crop circle information was valid it would seem. These crop circle makers must have mastery over time.
| | 7/12/2009 10:24:17 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 55
| The crop circle makers are communicating information that triggers your DNA coding giving you a message, telling you that the vibrational resonance frequency rate of absolutely everything on planet earth, our solar system, our milky way galaxy and beyond is increasing and is on a schedule, which is what the Mayans where tracking for 16.4 billion years up until right now.
There is an imminent separation taking place of an unprecedented magnitude in the history of mankind and planet earth. It's time to shit or get off the pot, as they say, on a psychological level in your mind. It's not called the awakening for nothing, It's not called the ascension process for nothing. Your rulers were not intending for that to happen, you were never suppose to be involved in any awakening.
That is exactly why big daddy and company are in place, so they can help keep the nightmare going for all the willing participants who take the spoon feeding of the pablem, so you will know where to be, what to do and what to say. Your life program has all been prearranged way ahead of time so all of your thinking is all taken care of. It just doesn't happen to include any awakening process.   
| | 7/13/2009 10:35:23 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| We are born totally determined beings. It's what makes you you? It's the vibrations that emanate from you. The only way out of polarity,(yin & yang)is to take the poles of every set of opposites and see the way in which they are one.
Either you do it like it's a big weight on you, or you do it as part of the 'dance'.
desire is a trap
desire-lessness is liberation
desire is the creator
desire is the destoyer
desire is the universe
that applies to the physical, the astral, and the casual plane.
4 noble truths:
suffering exists
the cause of suffering is desire
give up desire
to get you your life straight, become free of desire
Live in the spirit which is right inside. There is a very simple methodical, mechanical set of steps you need to take to do this. They are only available to him who can 'hear', teach not those who do not want to know.
The way it works, you just love until you and the beloved become ONE. 
Deuteronomy 20:18
New Living Translation (NLT)
This will prevent the people of the land from teaching you to imitate their detestable customs in the worship of their gods, which would cause you to sin deeply against the Lord your God.
Matthew 16:25
New Living Translation (NLT)
If you try to hang on to your life, you will lose it. But if you give up your life for my sake, you will save it.
Matthew 10:39
New Living Translation (NLT)
If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give up your life for me, you will find it.
Luke 14:33
New Living Translation (NLT)
So you cannot become my disciple without giving up everything you own.
Mark 10:45
King James Version (KJV)
For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Ephesians 5:1
New Living Translation (NLT)
[ Living in the Light ] Imitate God, therefore, in everything you do, because you are his dear children.
Deuteronomy 18:9
New Living Translation (NLT)
[ A Call to Holy Living ] “When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, be very careful not to imitate the detestable customs of the nations living there.
| | 7/13/2009 11:00:11 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
librajason
Gateway, AR
age: 34
| Flyin' their ship into the sun.......OH YEA!! That shows some intelligence right there! Musta been a DUI
| | 7/14/2009 12:06:22 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53
| Hey there's a huge "woven wheat circle" in England on earthfiles.com. Anybody want to say how that was made? Give it a shot.
| | 7/14/2009 12:38:46 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| Hey there's a huge "woven wheat circle" in England on earthfiles.com. Anybody want to say how that was made? Give it a shot.
... ...seems to be indicating a pole shift...eh.........
Is this what made them...
CROP CIRCLE RESEARCHERS FILM WAVING EXTRATERRESTRIAL BEING IN FIELD WITH UFO AND ORB
[Edited 7/14/2009 12:47:28 PM PST]
| | 7/14/2009 2:11:30 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
age: 65
| Any one setting or prdicting an EXACT TIME of events,
You can make a circle with a tractor,man or other means, but it does not lay the wheat down in a nice smooth clean pattern (tire tracks too) and could not do a fine detailed work, but lots of fun for farmer. Ha ha !
Real crop circles have a measurable E-magnetic field, detected with electronic equipment in the field area in the circle.
The bends in the grass are made by cooking (heating) the stock (micro wave )the bend point has a small nodule (exploded / expanded plant cells) of expansion from heat and is very different from the bends in wheat from tractors & man made circles.
Non of this really maters to most people in the world, there to busy with there daily lives, and if the did know, they would toss it to the side, as their minds are so closed and busy with them selves.
In all world, peoples lives have been well conditioned to think as the MATRIX has programed you to think !! (from, YOUR Parents, TV, media, schools, gang members, churches or structured religions or organization) You will do as you where programed, it's hard to brake away from the heard mentality, your beliefs, if you do.....
YOU WILL FEEL FEAR and REJECTION !
This is the results of the MATRIX !
To be a LIMING is a safe state of mind....
It's called brain washing to create " NARROW MINDED PEOPLES !!! "
Liberate your selves think with an opened mind be " A LIBERAL THINKER "
" A mind is like a para shoot, it does no function when closed ! "
A resent circle
A interpretation / reading of above circle, was not made with a tractor.
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| | 7/14/2009 9:31:26 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53
| Cropcircleconnector.com has several good images of the "woven wheat" circle. Huge circle with wheat woven together like in a basket.
| | 7/15/2009 7:03:22 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
thumbbuster
Two Dot, MT
age: 57
| There has been a number of these circles found here in Montana and they have been investigated throrughly. No evidence of them being man made was found. Each of them was slightly radioactive and did cause a geiger counter reaction and these were in areas where no other radioactive material was found. So we can presume that "someone" left us a message, but no one can decipher it.
| | 7/15/2009 8:23:03 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| Not sure why the mods won't let me post these pics, but WTF I'll give it another shot.
It doesn’t take too much common sense to see that it appears to indicate a pole shift….
| | 7/15/2009 8:50:05 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
thumbbuster
Two Dot, MT
age: 57
| I suppose one could presume that, that circle could possibly indicate a pole shit, but it may indicate something else?? No one can really read and decipher these crop circles, so there is a lot of speculation about them. What do you suppose this one could mean?
| | 7/15/2009 9:02:24 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53
| Izzy thanks for that post. Hoping someone would. I could not transfer with my system. So I wonder who this basket weaver is. Can they debunk this? Seems the circle makers are saying "No way are these man made."
Not sure on your interpretation as a pole shift.
| | 7/15/2009 9:20:22 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52
| I suppose one could presume that, that circle could possibly indicate a pole shit, but it may indicate something else?? No one can really read and decipher these crop circles, so there is a lot of speculation about them. What do you suppose this one could mean?
On the same day this crop circle came out there was an entire show on jellyfish in animal planet on discovery channel?...then news clips about strange jelly fish swarms happening... and now this...(This Jellyfish Crop Circle Accurately Predicted A Solar Storm.) There were alot of synchronocities attached with this. My first thoughts when I saw this were about the magnetosphere. From my perspective I think they have a valid argument...to much wierd shit happening at same time.It looks a lot like the tentacles of the magnetosphere. Which have been going berserk recently.
Jellyfish Cropcircle Solar Eclipse July 22nd 2009
Those 7 Circles under the Jellyfish look like earth with the path of the Moons shadow.
Box jellyfish are best known for the extremely powerful venom possessed by some of their species. I see one tentacle on the earth.
Marine researchers in Japan say they are alarmed by unusually large swarms of Nomura’s jellyfish now swimming in the Yellow Sea and East China Sea. Once fully mature, the jellyfish is one of the largest cnidarians in the world, reaching the size of an adult human. The scientists warn that ocean currents could bring the huge jellies toward the coast of Japan this summer. Spikes in the Nomura’s population during 1958 and 1995 dealt a huge blow to Japan’s fishing fleets.
| | 7/15/2009 9:22:08 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
librajason
Gateway, AR
age: 34
|
I think they're tryin' to say we're all gonna be killed by the invasion of the giant jellyfish people
| | 7/15/2009 9:23:38 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
twohawks
Bothell, WA
age: 70
| I have been studying UFO's for over 20 years and crop circles for about 10. Some of the crop circles that have appeared are definitely man made...no doubt about it. But I have seen videos of crop circles appearing almost instantly in fields in England...at night when there is absolutely no one around. These has been put on video tape by some researchers over there. The vid shows the field, then two or three small white lights come in, hover a bit, and then the circle appears then the white lights fly off and vanish. These vids have been gone over by imagery experts to see if they were faked. They were not.
So...someone, or something is placing these circles here and no one really nows why?
| | 7/15/2009 9:27:55 AM | Crop circles point to July 7th | | 
jstme383
South Sioux City, NE
age: 36
| I suppose one could presume that, that circle could possibly indicate a pole shit, but it may indicate something else?? No one can really read and decipher these crop circles, so there is a lot of speculation about them. What do you suppose this one could mean?
Oh my! Sorry but I had to reread that one! I must still be tired! Still chuckling over that one. What is a pole Chit? lol
Sorry, just stopping in and wanted to say hi all!
Jstme
| | 7/15/2009 12:09:45 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
age: 65
| I have been studying UFO's for over 20 years and crop circles for about 10. Some of the crop circles that have appeared are definitely man made...no doubt about it. But I have seen videos of crop circles appearing almost instantly in fields in England...at night when there is absolutely no one around. These has been put on video tape by some researchers over there. The vid shows the field, then two or three small white lights come in, hover a bit, and then the circle appears then the white lights fly off and vanish. These vids have been gone over by imagery experts to see if they were faked. They were not.
So...someone, or something is placing these circles here and no one really nows why?
Very good statement & observation TWO HAWKS, maybe the best you have posted so far !
Yes some circles are man made, after the real circles appeared in fields, then copy cats started making them in fields, BUT there circles are very obviously man made, as the wheat is stomped down using STEEL BARS and/or sheets of plywood leving human foot prints or using tractors that leave tire prints.
As some one stated above, the real ones have a radioactive out put.
Some info. & time lines of Crop circles
@ : http://www.chosenones.net/article.php?id=156
NOVEMBER 16, 1974
The Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (S.E.T.I.) celebrates the activation of its new "super" radio receiving dish at Arecibo, Puerto Rico with the transmission of a 5,000,000,000,000 (5 trillion) watt encoded, cryptic, pictorial message beamed at a section of the Milky Way galaxy 120 million light years from Earth.
This is the most powerful signal ever to be sent from earth in recorded history.
FEBRUARY - MARCH, 1975
(4 MONTHS LATER) Farmers in the countryside of Wiltshire County, England begin reporting the appearance of highly unusual, precise / circular, imprints in the fields surrounding Stone Henge. The circular patterns appear over-night. The crops surrounding the effected areas show no sign of human footprints.
The stalks of the plants involved in the formation of the circles are not broken (as would be in the case of a pressured "stomped" depression.) Rather, the stalks are gently bent at a consistent point along the stem. The plants continue to grow - frequently at an accelerated rate - following the formation. Changes in the molecular structures of the affected plants are seen through examination.
Although such oddities have appeared before in the area, the frequency of these circular impressions has suddenly increased dramatically. The media pays no attention to the phenomenon.
1978
A photograph of the first "quintuplet" formation makes its way through various publications.
August 14, 2001
NEAR CHILBOLTON, ENGLAND
As the "crop circle" phenomenon has continued with ever increasingly more intricate geometrical designs and pictorial impressions - for a recognized 23 years - another such (by now) "pictorial glyph" appears over-night in a field on land owned by the British Ministry of Defense at a base housing an 80 foot diameter radio-telescope.
The approximately 75 X 120 foot pictorial rendering shows what can only be a humanoid face woven into the stalks of wheat, just a few hundred feet from the radio-telescope.
Surveillance devices guarding the base show no activity or movement at ground level during the over-night formation of the "Chilbolton Face".
** As of today, Sept. 4, 2001, there has been no resolution as to the cause or purpose of the Chilbolton pictorial glyphs, nor as to the identity of their senders.
It is interesting to note the following points.
1. The first-response "crop circles" appeared in about 4 months following the sending of the SETI signal.
2. The patterns woven in the wheat fields in the area surrounding Stone Henge, England have become more and more complex and intricate with the passing of time (in this almost 27 year period) suggesting a gradual evolution in not only their size and patterns, but in their message as well.
3. The "Guardian" tape shows a crop-related phenomenon, but rather than the bending of plants, it shows plants remaining uneffected by a group of flare-like fires that form a "crop circle".
This event is recorded exactly 10 years to the day prior to the discovery of the Chilbolton SETI response glyph (on the morning of Sunday, August 19, 2001).
4. The reported "ET" shown in conjunction with the Guardian tape is garbed in a breathing apparatus-like facial mask. The form of the facial countenance is very similar to the appearance of the "Chilbolton Face" pictorial glyph.
As of this writing, the afore-mentioned events have correlated.
I believe that we can expect more such correlations in what now seems to be an unquestionable pattern of contact with an advanced extraterrestrial civilization.
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| | 7/15/2009 12:27:40 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
age: 65
| ** MORE.........
From, @: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread340541/pg3
COMMENTS:
Unfortunately, I have not come across any radiation tests conducted on the Chilbolton pictograph. However, here is some gen on other CCs where scientific tests were conducted, notably by BLT Research.
After 1993, regular soil sampling was instituted at most crop circles sampled by the BLT Team. Subsequently, tiny 10-40 micron diameter spheres (and/or partially ablated particles) of unusually pure iron have been regularly found in soils from crop circle sites.
Photomicrograph (100 X) of 10-40 micron diameter, spherical,
magnetic particles of the type regularly found in crop circle soils.
EDS reveals these spheres to be pure iron; the fact that they are
Magnetized reveals they were formed in a magnetic field.
Courtesy: BLT Research
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comment:
@: www.circlemakers.org...
Like someone else has mentioned has great evidence of man made crop circles.
However, this does not mean ALL crop cirlcles are man made.
I find the more difficult ones to explain are as follows:
Blown nodes
Twisted or woven wheat (or whatever crop)
Made in a single night or a matter of hours
Radiation or high electromagnetic field
Have a hidden message encoded
If you want a really large list of amazing things people have discovered in crop formations, look at this
www.korncirkler.dk...
Now I found this interesting as well,(same website above)
In the "effects on animals" section
3 - flocks of birds overhead fly around the formation
Birds can see magnetic north with their eyes, its how they travel vast distances every year.
I was wondering if birds have the ability to see an abundance of magnetism in a certain area? If so, we could possibly use them as a sort of hound dog, to sift out the areas of high magnetism, and by doing so, sifting out the genuine from the fake.
Most of all.......Keep an open mind!
I saw a bunch of people posting their beliefs here, and I was shocked to see a number of you complety dissmiss this without another thought. "Its fake"
That mentality will only get you so far....
That mentality will only hinder your ability to see what is "real"
By denying anything fantastical, you will miss the big picture entirely.
Besides where is the fun in saying "NO" to everything?
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But the mystery remains!
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This pic is a response to SETI signals sent into deep space, circle source unknown
NOTE, the dots in the face above (looking like half tone printing dots)could man do such an intricate job in the dark of night ? The dot message at left, second from bottom is our solar system the large square at right is the SUN & MAN stands over Earth, the spirals above MAN are representative of human DNA. other dots represent some earthly things. I cant remember them all, as I read about this corp circle some many years ago.
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*** That's all ** ~ Cougar
[Edited 7/15/2009 12:33:02 PM PST]
| | 7/15/2009 1:14:33 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 55
| cougarblue good research and info that you posted for the crop circle cheeple to see. It's actually way too much information and their minds automatically switch on to overload and they shut down and don't know what to say, about anything.
Crop circles are communicating messages recoding and upgrading your DNA to help with the density flip of the ascension process. The vibrational resonance frequency rate in the universe has been gradually increasing effecting absolutely everything. Our 3rd density world is getting near the completion of creation on planet earth, when all of the Karmic cycles ( wheels ) and all of the different energies of the 13 heavens and the 9 underworlds of the Mayan calendar comes to an end after 16.4 billion years on 10-28-2011.
It is unprecedented what is taking place with our Sun-God, our solar-system and far beyond and your DNA is being prepared to handle it. Crop circles are messages created by you in the collective unconscious mind triggered from your ancient collective unconscious memory, to give you a wake up call at this time in earths history, in order to upgrade your DNA so that you might be able to evolve to a greater capacity of being, into something you would say that dreams are made of. Whether you can handle it, is the big question.
There is a separation taking place between the men and the boys, so to speak, and it's got nothing to do with the price of the toys. All of the abstract values are breaking down in your world and will continue to do so. Deep subject. 
This is an interesting 4 minute video of very sophisticated crop circle work, done by bill and bob on a saturday night with a law mower after a few beers.
| | 7/15/2009 3:22:45 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
twohawks
Bothell, WA
age: 70
| I seriously doubt that any of these crop circles are "messages from the all mighty" as if "God" was telling us something. The man made ones are, of course, a joke, but the ones that aren't man made have a message of some sort and all we can so is guess/speculate about it. I don't know how long these have been appearing, but a good guess would be at least 15+ years...possibly longer??
| | 7/15/2009 3:43:41 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 55
| twohawks: I seriously doubt that any of these crop circles are "messages from the all mighty" as if "God" was telling us something.
All of the different energies of millennia and all of the cycles of time are coming to an end, you are getting prepped for it on an unconscious level, which means that it is below the level of the possibility of you being able to understand it. You cannot possibly know what you don't know.
You don't read and you don't comprehend, so you don't understand. You are the one guessing out of the side of your mouth, with absolutely no clue what to think about anything.
the ones that aren't man made have a message of some sort and all we can so is guess/speculate about it.
I just got through describing what the crop circle messages are about. Though unfortunately for you, nobody is home to read and understand it.
[Edited 7/15/2009 3:45:46 PM PST]
| | 7/15/2009 4:55:52 PM | Crop circles point to July 7th | |
twohawks
Bothell, WA
age: 70
| twohawks: I seriously doubt that any of these crop circles are "messages from the all mighty" as if "God" was telling us something.
All of the different energies of millennia and all of the cycles of time are coming to an end, you are getting prepped for it on an unconscious level, which means that it is below the level of the possibility of you being able to understand it. You cannot possibly know what you don't know.
You don't read and you don't comprehend, so you don't understand. You are the one guessing out of the side of your mouth, with absolutely no clue what to think about anything.
the ones that aren't man made have a message of some sort and all we can so is guess/speculate about it.
I just got through describing what the crop circle messages are about. Though unfortunately for you, nobody is home to read and understand it.
And you..are so perfect that you know everything....right? Put a lid on it jewelz! I don't believe any of your bullshit and neither do a lot of other people!
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