6/30/2009 9:29:42 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53


Supposedly a recent crop circle formation in England points to the sun for a July 7th event. Just recently a huge explosion took place on the opposite side. More info posted on Phd Linda Moulton Howe's site earthfiles.com

6/30/2009 9:31:11 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

layla22
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (47,145)
Peoria, IL
age: 55


any clues on what kind of event?

a solar catastrophe?

6/30/2009 9:55:11 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

iconwizard4444
Over 2,000 Posts (2,892)
Burnside, KY
age: 35


LOL!

I don't know what crop circles are supposed to mean, but I do not buy the standard line set forth by "debunkers" and Skeptics. Some of these crop circles are very elaborate.

According to the debunkers, supposedly some drunk Brits decide to have some fun after leaving the pup at two or three in the morning and take to some field with a pole and some rope and create these marvelous crop circles.

6/30/2009 10:22:52 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

i_am_bill
Over 1,000 Posts (1,980)
Astatula, FL
age: 50


Quote from iconwizard4444:
LOL!

I don't know what crop circles are supposed to mean, but I do not buy the standard line set forth by "debunkers" and Skeptics. Some of these crop circles are very elaborate.

According to the debunkers, supposedly some drunk Brits decide to have some fun after leaving the pup at two or three in the morning and take to some field with a pole and some rope and create these marvelous crop circles.


They're all man made. Bill

6/30/2009 10:33:43 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

iconwizard4444
Over 2,000 Posts (2,892)
Burnside, KY
age: 35


Quote from i_am_bill:
They're all man made. Bill


I know that.

7/1/2009 12:10:41 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

librajason
Over 2,000 Posts (2,781)
Gateway, AR
age: 34


Quote from jongeo:
Just recently a huge explosion took place on the opposite side.





damn teenagers with pipe bombs again.....

7/1/2009 2:38:09 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

k_tothe_c
Over 2,000 Posts (3,552)
Las Vegas, NV
age: 39


Ooooooooooh! I am just terrified!

7/1/2009 11:21:37 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 
kevin99999
Over 1,000 Posts (1,578)
Oshkosh, WI
age: 41


Just to be on the safe side, I have instructed all family members to begin construction of tin foil hats.

7/1/2009 12:20:02 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

styx62ga2
Over 2,000 Posts (2,850)
Douglasville, GA
age: 47


Everyone in England is gonna fart at the same time on the 7th and shoot a hole through the ozone.



[Edited 7/1/2009 12:20:29 PM PST]

7/1/2009 3:31:41 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52


An unknown object is approaching the Sun
Planet sized unknown object is quickly approaching the Sun. The object in question can clearly be seen in the Stereo Behind COR 2 imagery . At this time the course of this object will pass dangerously close to or will actually hit the Sun around the equator . This is not a charted object and is not a planet.

Note this is not a small object either and we should not have to wait to long to see what the end result will be

click on thumbnail in link and scroll down to watch object’s approach.

Info from GLP
Primary Basics

The Sun, our Sun, will be hit by a long since dead dwarf star. It has been named Hellion-1957. It was discovered December 22nd 1956.
Recapitulation of Detailed Information

Hellion's approach will be from the south. Hellion is travelling varitably fast at 87.33 km/sec. This translates to 195,357.21 MPH. Hellion is classified as one of the fastest moving objects of it's class.
Coordinates and Viewing Principles
RA 13.390911°
Dec -77.436111°
Velocity 87.33 km/sec
Density 174 gm/cm^3
Magnitude 11
Equatorial Radius 957.77km
Solid spherical shape

Projected outcome
The object will penetrate the sun and exit through the other side very similar to a bullet through a watermelon. The Suns core processes will not be destroyed. However, we expect a severe disturbance in the 11 year solar cycle.
Sun debris will be ejected into various orbits. It is calculated Earth has a 7.87% chance of hit/near miss of at least one piece of still burning ejecta.
The rogue dwarf Hellion will continue to exit the solar system at a reduced speed. We expect some of the suns ejecta to get caught in the tremendously strong magnetic field of Hellion.
We are now sure this is one of many processes that is responsible for the production of planets orbiting a sun. That being said, there is a slight chance of a new planet forming though, the process will involve thousands of years.

Hellion-1957 is considered the greatest threat to all nations of the world. Things aren't always as they seem. North Korea, China, Russia, USA and Japan are the assigned teams to provide any possible solutions, preventions and neccessary preparations. However, dealing with the size and mass of Hellion, intervention is just about impossible. So the focus of effort has been shifted to survivability. The seed bank is one example.

There is one exception. The USA has technology that may be able to alter the density of the targeted object briefly making it lighter then it really is. Gravitic manipulation through scalar EM harmonies. Some of this tech was first explored by Tesla. North Korea is a safe place for the worlds leaders when the event takes place. The North Korean build up of arms is to protect the elite during and after the event. The majority of people on Earth will be left to defend themselves however they can. War with North Korea and the US will be the cover to hide large shipments of supplies, peoples and their choosen families to their safe homes under ground.

Why am I telling you all this? Well, for one I was kicked out of the safe place. They used me and tossed me away. At this point, I no longer care about much anymore. Everything you know of will change just like that. Because the energies involved in the collision are so great, 2/3 of the earth will be cooked from the high levels of radiation, UV, Gamma rays, ect.

Sincerely yours truly
Anon

and for all you shills out there who want to try debunk this.......be my guest

cropcirlcles



[Edited 7/1/2009 3:37:03 PM PST]

7/1/2009 7:02:25 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 
green300
Omaha, NE
age: 55


LOL, my son makes crop circles on his property with a tractor. It is a lot of fun finding people gullible enough to believe the story that he had flying saucers visit.

7/1/2009 7:09:11 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

twohawks
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,865)
Bothell, WA
age: 70


Not ALL crop circles are man made. there has been some that have appeared in fields where people were watching and no one knows how they got there. Granted! Some Brits have made them, but some have appeared with no one in the area.



[Edited 7/1/2009 7:12:45 PM PST]

7/1/2009 7:10:28 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 
green300
Omaha, NE
age: 55


twohawks, I agree. There were some in Great Britian when I visited.

Still, my son has had fun fooling his buddies.

7/1/2009 7:18:42 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

tater79
Over 2,000 Posts (3,830)
Springfield, IL
age: 30


Hey izzy, and when is this object suppose to impact the sun???

7/1/2009 7:24:46 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

twohawks
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,865)
Bothell, WA
age: 70


Quote from green300:
twohawks, I agree. There were some in Great Britian when I visited.

Still, my son has had fun fooling his buddies.


I have a friend who is very much into crop circles. She has been places where they have appeared and there is absolutely no physical evidence of anyone walking into the field and making them and some of them have shown a slight amount of radio activity. So...saying they are all man made is totally false.

7/1/2009 8:24:37 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

lostinwyoming
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,095)
Evanston, WY
age: 52


i found some crap circles in my yard. i think its a sign!that im gonna be shovelin dog shit.



7/1/2009 8:28:59 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

librajason
Over 2,000 Posts (2,781)
Gateway, AR
age: 34


yea! lotsa circles in my dog pen.........does that count?

7/1/2009 8:29:32 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56


Quote from i_am_bill:
They're all man made. Bill

YEP!

All man-made.

Of course, the men that made some of them would have to be super-humans moving at hyper-velocity.



No way would they be able to create something like this one overnight, otherwise!



Or this:



Or how about all of these?






7/1/2009 8:32:00 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56


Of course—another way the Crop Circles could be formed strikes me.






7/1/2009 8:40:40 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56


Quote from tater79:
Hey izzy, and when is this object suppose to impact the sun???

Why on June 21st, 2009—right up there with the nuclear bombs that hit 20 major American cities.

What’s that you say? June 21st was ten days ago? There were no bombs? How could THAT be? IZZY said there would be!

You just have to have faith!




7/1/2009 8:56:35 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

tater79
Over 2,000 Posts (3,830)
Springfield, IL
age: 30




7/2/2009 7:05:26 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52


Despite all the misinfo, despite missed predictions, despite the unrepentant and arrogant attitudes of the debunkers, despite everything...It is obvious that the world is on the brink of some very big changes, and none of them are going to be pleasant.

The possibilities of what might happen, (and what WILL happen according to prophecy and history; economic failure, war, famine, disease, WW3, pole shift, NWO, etc.) become more substantiated on a daily basis and what solution is there to any of these problems? There is NONE. There is not one person on earth who can come up with any real solution. The solutions that have been put in place, (by PTB) have not helped and in fact have only made things worse. How much longer can the current state of affairs remain balanced enough that society continues to function 'normally' or at all?
There is no way to 'compute' an exact time limit (except...Matthew 24:32-34 (New International Version) 32 "Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. 34 I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.)...but can 'things' last much longer. When enough people have had enough then things will escalate rapidly, but not many will believe it until the SHTF.

Should we ignore the 'signs' of doom, or keep a close watch?
Matthew 25:13 New Living Translation (NLT)“So you, too, must keep watch! For you do not know the day or hour of my return.
1 Timothy 4:16 New Living Translation (NLT) Keep a close watch on how you live and on your teaching. Stay true to what is right for the sake of your own salvation and the salvation of those who hear you.
2 Timothy 4:2 New Living Translation (NLT)
Preach the word of God. Be prepared, whether the time is favorable or not. Patiently correct, rebuke, and encourage your people with good teaching.

Decide for yourself what the best course of action is, either prepare for the worst, or wait for the flood, the choice is yours.

IMO The ONLY thing that will help anyone is faith, not faith in men’s ideas/solutions, but true faith in God.

Psalms 49:5; There is no need to fear when times of trouble come, even though surrounded by enemies.
Psalms 50:13-15; No, I don't need your sacrifices of flesh and blood. What I want from you is your true thanks; I want your promises fulfilled. I want you to trust me in your times of trouble, so I can rescue you, and you can give me glory.

Written to David to protest against his enemy Doeg (1 Sam 22), who later slaughtered eighty-five priests and their families.
Psalm 52:1-4 (New Living Translation)
1 Why do you boast about your crimes, great warrior? Don’t you realize God’s justice continues forever?
2 All day long you plot destruction. Your tongue cuts like a sharp razor, you’re an expert at telling lies.
3 You love evil more than good and lies more than truth.
4 You love to destroy others with your words, you liar!

7/2/2009 7:27:27 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 
march4
Cameron, MO
age: 41


Vove:

7/2/2009 7:42:28 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52


Quote from rightway123:
izzy
Despite all the misinfo, despite missed predictions, despite the unrepentant and arrogant attitudes of the debunkers, despite everything...It is obvious that the world is on the brink of some very big changes, and none of them are going to be pleasant.
That's true............Obama is president.


For someone who has such a low opinion of my intelligence, you sure spend a lot of time commenting on my posts.
I don't need your 'back up' shillboy. Go pinch your loaf somewhere else.

7/2/2009 8:01:24 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52


Quote from voevode:
Why on June 21st, 2009—right up there with the nuclear bombs that hit 20 major American cities.What’s that you say? June 21st was ten days ago? There were no bombs? How could THAT be? IZZY said there would be! You just have to have faith!


I said according to op blackjack there would be another falseflag attack on US. I didn't predict or write op blackjack. I have only predicted that according to mayan calendar and prophecy the tribulation should start in June.(or within 30 days of June 21) It is not a coincidence that BJ occured on June 21, many believe that this date is valid because it falls 3.5 years before Dec 2012, which is believed to be the opening of the 6th seal, ( pole shift).
Are you 'mental' dude? Is there some reasonable explanation why your such a lying d*ck, or do you just work at it.

Latest batch of crop circles are pointing towards a major event (CME related) on July 7th. cropcircles
Read Part 1 and Part 2. In part 2 they talk about the circles pointing to July 7th, but on the sun nothing is happening. Perhaps this thing is what is going to happen on 7th?

Prophecy of July 11th, 2009
I believe Barky is meeting with the pope on July 10th and if I'm not mistaken, it is the biblical 1260 days or 42 months exactly until December 21, 2012, end date of the mayan calendar.
7/11 is possibly the start of the Middle East nuclear war that will plunge the World into a deep depression. See Isaiah 17:1.
It will kick off the start of Daniel's 70th Week... or the last 7 years of man's rule on earth. Since 2009-2016 is a Sabbath Cycle... the more ominous the event could happen this summer.
This would mark 2012 as the time the prophesied brown dwarf Star Wormwood (code name Planet X) will arrive into our solar system causing a global cataclysm ushering in the rise of the Antichrist to global power.



[Edited 7/2/2009 8:09:10 AM PST]

7/2/2009 8:06:44 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

remodel
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,158)
Lincolnton, NC
age: 57




7/2/2009 8:07:57 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

plaidflannel
Green Isle, MN
age: 46


July 7th the day the GOP party implodes??????????????????

7/2/2009 8:08:49 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

gapeach7777
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,543)
Ball Ground, GA
age: 37


I don't that crop circles "point" to anything but I sure like the pictures. I personally don't think a group of people could produce those especially the really elaborate ones in one night. I could be wrong but they are still quite beautiful.

7/2/2009 8:39:55 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 
bravehart64
Over 2,000 Posts (2,619)
Gainesville, FL
age: 45


What a bucnh of BS .Crop circles where shown to be fake years ago and you post this stupidity ? Know I see what it takes to get attention on this forum ..brave

7/2/2009 8:43:37 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

librajason
Over 2,000 Posts (2,781)
Gateway, AR
age: 34


Quote from voevode:
Of course—another way the Crop Circles could be formed strikes me.











7/2/2009 9:03:46 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56


Quote from izzynotalone:
I said according to op blackjack there would be another falseflag attack on US. I didn't predict or write op blackjack.

Yeah—but you posted it:

Quote from izzynotalone:

It is difficult to know whether we know the truth or if we have been deceived, only time will tell...but according to all the research I have labored over for the past few years this seems to line up with everything that I have come to believe and perceive as the truth...

I have tried to warn the 'sheep' to the best of my ability, I know I have not always done this in a manner that I probably should have

Trying to pay back a few pennies on a debt of THOUSANDS. Don’t TRY it, IZZY.

but I hope it has been helpful to those who were willing to listen. I hope everyone has made their preps or their peace with God.
I pray those of you who are enlightened and able will be as helpful to others as possible by making all the best choices and helping all to turn to God during these terrible times. Remember, only those who stay strong in faith and remain standing to the end will receive the blessings of God. If you fail to do this you will receive the 'blessings' you so richly deserve. This is MY final warning

Since you’ve posted at least two more ‘warning’ threads since then, I have to conclude you’ve never read the dictionary definition of “final.”

and whether you are glad to be rid of me or not, I wish all of you the best of luck in the next few years and God bless.

Operation blackjack is the next false flag attack on the US. The attack that supposedly Bin Laden has 'promised' on the US, {another 911 except on a much larger scale} 8:03AM June 21st blackjack is go

It is actually a black op sponsored by PTB. (Just like 911. This is how the illuminati controls the world through deception. Deceiving a nations people by 'attacking themselves' and making it look like some one else did it, so that an excuse to go to war is established and the people will blindly support it) This attack will be nuclear/biological and it will lead to the greatest US and world wide destruction this planet has ever seen...

It is scheduled to commence at 8 a.m. on June 21st. This date marks exactly 3.5 years before Dec 21 2012.( 2012 is the pole shift, Rev 6:12-17, the midpoint of the tribulation, and things are going to get very BAD from now until then...and for awhile afterwards as well)
This event marks the beginning of the tribulation, (such persecution as the world has never seen, Matt 24:21,22)and will be followed by the false 7 year peace treaty with Israel/mideast. (which will be broken just prior to the pole shift)

This is a list of the cities that are to be destroyed with nuclear bombs:

San Francisco
L.A.
San Diego
Tucson
Cedar City, UT
Denver
Dallas
Houston
Topeka
Rochester or Owatonna, MN
Chicago
Detroit
Atlanta
Miami
Pittsburg
Philadelphia
Charlotte, NC (too low to be Raleigh)
D.C.
Baltimore (look more like Annapolis and Chesapeake Bay more logic Naval hit)
Boston
Hartford or Bridgeport, CT

*(NYC is supposed to be nuked, but the bombs may be intercepted.)

Timer showing the countdown to the first detonations:
countdown
According to this we have about 3 and a half days left before the total collapse of this country and the beginning of the tribulation...

You continually weave and wind like a SERPENT, ignoring what you’ve actually said [when it doesn’t come true [which is like, ALL THE TIME!], but it’s going to keep coming back and bite you—and everyone KNOWS IT.

I know how you think—and what you’re COUNTING ON.

Anyone can see the world’s in bad shape. We have tremendous nuclear capability. If something went wrong—we would be in SERIOUS TROUBLE [to say the least!]

Now to the minds of many, the LIKELIHOOD of a nuclear strike is pretty great.

And there are numerous passages in the Bible which sound like that is EXACTLY what they are talking about.

So you sound off about Biblical prophecy, because to YOUR mind—it’s a pretty safe bet that there IS GOING TO BE A NUCLEAR WAR.

And so—when it happens, everybody’s going to think “IZZY’s a PROPHET—HE SAW IT AHEAD OF TIME!”

That’s what you’re counting on.

But today is the eleventh day since your phony ‘prophecy’ and “NO NUKES”

REALITY HAS A FUNNY WAY OF LAUGHING IN THE FACE OF IDIOTS.



IZZYISM: It Happens That I’m So Full Of Shit.










7/2/2009 9:12:03 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

scorpiomoon
Over 2,000 Posts (2,808)
Brattleboro, VT
age: 60


It seems this little guy on the tractor has been quite busy, AND he is old!

Crop circles rose in prominence during the late 1970s as circles began appearing throughout the English countryside. The phenomenon of crop circles became widely known in the late 1980s, after the media started to report crop circles in Hampshire and Wiltshire and corresponding phenomena were reported from locations as diverse as Penrith in Australia and Minnesota in the United States. To date, approximately 12,000 crop circles have been discovered in sites across the world, from locations such as the former Soviet Union, the UK and Japan, as well as the U.S. and Canada. Skeptics note a correlation between crop circles, recent media coverage, and the absence of fencing and/or anti-trespassing legislation. However, proponents point to the simple profusion of these events prior to and continuing after the decline in media coverage as rendering the amateur crank phenomenon unlikely.The earliest recorded image resembling a crop circle is depicted in the 17th-century.

7/2/2009 9:20:17 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

librajason
Over 2,000 Posts (2,781)
Gateway, AR
age: 34


I guess we should all replace our "No Trespassing" signs with "No Parking" signs.
If I had a wheat field, I'd be madder than hell if they parked one those damn things in my field tearin' it up like that.....like joy ridin' teenagers



[Edited 7/2/2009 9:20:38 AM PST]

7/2/2009 9:23:37 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56


Quote from gapeach7777:
I don't that crop circles "point" to anything but I sure like the pictures. I personally don't think a group of people could produce those especially the really elaborate ones in one night. I could be wrong but they are still quite beautiful.

Some of them certainly are hoaxes—

But there are others: they’re not produced by just mashing down the wheat. The strands have been found to be woven and braided together. Imagine how time-consuming that would be.

In 2002, Discovery Channel commissioned five aeronautics and astronautics students from MIT to create crop circles of their own. Discovery's production team consulted with crop-circle researcher Nancy Talbott, who provided them with three attributes that she believed set "real" crop circles apart from known man-made circles, such as those created by Doug Bower and Dave Chorley. These criteria were:
1. Elongated apical plant stem nodes
2. Expulsion cavities in the plant stems
3. The presence of 10–50 micrometre diameter magnetized iron spheres in the soils, distributed linearly
Over the course of a single night, the team was able to create a stereotypical "man-made" circle that they then attempted to enhance using the three criteria. The team used lengths of rope to plot their design and trampled the wheat down in a spiral pattern using lengths of wooden board attached to loops of rope. To meet criterion 2, they constructed a portable microwave emitter, using it to superheat the moisture inside the corn stalks until it burst out as steam. To meet criterion 3, they built a device—dubbed the Flammenwerfer ("flamethrower")—that sprayed iron particles through a heated ring. However, the device proved to be too time-consuming to use, and they were forced to finish the task by using a pyrotechnic charge to distribute the iron around the circle. The circle was later analyzed by graduate students from MIT, who declared it to be "on a par with any of the documented cases". Their conclusion was later questioned by Talbott, who noted that the team had only been able to recreate two of the three criteria. Talbott also expressed concerns that the iron particles were not distributed laterally. Furthermore, she felt that the team's use of night-vision headsets and other technologically advanced items would be out of reach for the average hoaxer. This would have been even more so in the '70s and '80s when night-vision equipment was rare outside official use.
The creation of the circle was recorded and used in the Discovery Channel documentary Crop Circles: Mysteries in the Fields.

The earliest recorded image resembling a crop circle is depicted in a 17th-century English woodcut called the "Mowing-Devil". The image depicts the devil with a scythe mowing (cutting) a circular design in a field of oats. The pamphlet containing the image states that the farmer, disgusted at the wage his mower was demanding for his work, insisted that he would rather have "the devil himself" perform the task. That night, the crop appeared as if it were on fire, then in the morning a circular pattern had mysteriously appeared.



A more recent historical report of crop circles was republished (from Nature, volume 22, pp. 290–291, 29 July 1880) in the January 2000 issue of the Journal of Meteorology. It describes the 1880 investigations by amateur scientist John Rand Capron:
"The storms about this part of Western Surrey have been lately local and violent, and the effects produced in some instances curious. Visiting a neighbour's farm on Wednesday evening (21st), we found a field of standing wheat considerably knocked about, not as an entirety, but in patches forming, as viewed from a distance, circular spots....I could not trace locally any circumstances accounting for the peculiar forms of the patches in the field, nor indicating whether it was wind or rain, or both combined, which had caused them, beyond the general evidence everywhere of heavy rainfall. They were suggestive to me of some cyclonic wind action,..."
In 1966, one of the most famous accounts of UFO traces happened in the small town of Tully, Queensland, Australia. A sugarcane farmer said he witnessed a saucer-shaped craft rise 30 or 40 feet (12 m) up from a swamp and then fly away, and when he went to investigate the location where he thought the saucer had landed, he found the reeds intricately weaved in a clockwise fashion on top of the water.[citation needed] The woven reeds could hold the weight of 10 men.
There are also many other anecdotal accounts of crop circles in Ufology literature that predate the modern crop circle phenomena, though some cases involve crops which were cut or burnt, rather than flattened.
Crop circles rose in prominence during the late 1970s as circles began appearing throughout the English countryside. The phenomenon of crop circles became widely known in the late 1980s, after the media started to report crop circles in Hampshire and Wiltshire and corresponding phenomena were reported from locations as diverse as Penrith in Australia and Minnesota in the United States. To date, approximately 12,000 crop circles have been discovered in sites across the world, from locations such as the former Soviet Union, the UK and Japan, as well as the U.S. and Canada. Skeptics note a correlation between crop circles, recent media coverage, and the absence of fencing and/or anti-trespassing legislation. However, proponents point to the simple profusion of these events prior to and continuing after the decline in media coverage as rendering the amateur crank phenomenon unlikely.
Although farmers have expressed concern at the damage caused to their crops, local response to the appearance of crop circles can often be enthusiastic, with locals taking advantage of the tourist potential of circles. Past responses have included bus or helicopter tours of circle sites, walking tours, t-shirts and book sales. Potential markets include curious tourists, scientists, crop circle researchers, and individuals seeking a spiritual experience by praying to and communing with spirits. Notably also, the crop generally continues to ripen in a 'genuine' circle, being laid flat rather than broken. Some researchers have found that the corn appears to have bent at the nodes of the stalks, showing that can only be replicated in the lab using a microwave oven. In rarer cases, this has occurred near the top of the stems, not the bottom, all but ruling out human involvement.
In 1996, a circle appeared near Stonehenge, and the farmer set up a booth and charged a fee. He collected £30,000 in four weeks. The value of the crop had it been harvested was probably about £150.





7/2/2009 10:18:03 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52


[And so—when it happens, everybody’s going to think “IZZY’s a PROPHET—HE SAW IT AHEAD OF TIME!” That’s what you’re counting on. voevode quote]

I have stated numerous times that I don’t consider myself or want anyone else to consider me a ‘prophet’. I am not sure why or what you think I am counting on either. (I am only counting on God) I have no ambition to be anything other than God’s servant. I don’t want anyone’s money or have any intention of profiting or loss from people’s actions, fears or opinions.

IMO you are the one who is trying to make such a big deal out of nothing and LYING to folks so they will believe something negative about me, (I have already clearly stated I am not a prophet.) I am not sure why you have such a cob up your ass, but I and others too, would appreciate it if you could remove it before you explode from being too full of shit…

I have been ‘called’ to warn the sheep and to the best of my ability that is all I am doing, nothing more, nothing less. If you don’t care to take heed that is your business, but if you continue to insult then you are out of line and hopefully others will see you for what you actually are…a lame a** naysayer with less credibility than myself..

According to the mayan end date and prophecy the trib should begin anytime. The first event is a limited nuclear exchange. Matt 24:21,22;

That is not my prophecy, that is what the bible says Jesus spoke. I happen to believe God, you do whatever you think best...and I will do what I have been 'called' to do.

repent and turn to God for the end is not near...it is HERE!

7/2/2009 10:32:56 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52


Quote from bravehart64:
What a bucnh of BS .Crop circles where shown to be fake years ago and you post this stupidity ? Know I see what it takes to get attention on this forum ..brave


Do you have any real evidence (links or otherwise) besides your own disbelief to prove they are 'fake'?

The most amazing thing about the recent ones are their size and complexity. It would take quite a bit of time and manpower to create these things overnight. How is it that all are 'perfect'( only the patterns are removed but the outside perimeters remain completely undamaged) and there is no evidence of any group or device coming in or out of the area.

Theoretically they could be done with a computer programmed gps 'flying' mower, but so far, I don't think anyone has reported seeing any flying mowers around the sites. Most sites are observed 'clean' the day before and the circles appear the following morning. (that leaves about 8 hrs. to accomplish one circle and then disappear without a trace)

7/2/2009 10:39:51 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

tater79
Over 2,000 Posts (3,830)
Springfield, IL
age: 30


Quote from izzynotalone:
Do you have any real evidence (links or otherwise) besides your own disbelief to prove they are 'fake'?

The most amazing thing about the recent ones are their size and complexity. It would take quite a bit of time and manpower to create these things overnight. How is it that all are 'perfect'( only the patterns are removed but the outside perimeters remain completely undamaged) and there is no evidence of any group or device coming in or out of the area.

Theoretically they could be done with a computer programmed gps 'flying' mower, but so far, I don't think anyone has reported seeing any flying mowers around the sites. Most sites are observed 'clean' the day before and the circles appear the following morning. (that leaves about 8 hrs. to accomplish one circle and then disappear without a trace)


I'm sure we have technology to make those elaborate circles, plus they areas can be all marked out in advance, without anyone knowing about it...

We have tons of satilites in space right? surely if the government wanted too, they could see exactly how those were made, I'm sure many of them (crop circles)were in view of different satilites... JMO

7/2/2009 10:59:26 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52


Quote from tater79:
I'm sure we have technology to make those elaborate circles, plus they areas can be all marked out in advance, without anyone knowing about it...We have tons of satilites in space right? surely if the government wanted too, they could see exactly how those were made, I'm sure many of them (crop circles)were in view of different satilites... JMO


yea the tech exists...So where's the evidence? ( esp. the satelite pics) and how are they made without any signs of entry or exit from the site? If several people were involved it seems rather likely that there would be at least some evidence of their movement into or out of the area. How is it that the perimeters of the circles are 'clean' without any damage to the adjacent crop or the rest of the field?

Why hasn't anyone reported the flying lawnmowers?....

7/2/2009 11:03:18 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53


Probably made with microwaves. Just we, the common people do not know from who or why.

7/2/2009 11:14:53 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

gapeach7777
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,543)
Ball Ground, GA
age: 37


I watched a show on crop circles (Discovery Channel or something like that I think) and one of the land owners says he is in his fields every day, sees nothing, then boom..next morning a huge circle. There was also film (I realize it could have been doctored) of a landowner filming a white light that was "flying" around his field. Next morning there was crop circle and a government helicopter flying near the ground in his field.

I don't know who or what causes it but I find it very interesting.

7/2/2009 11:17:10 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

paclantchief
New Port Richey, FL
age: 59




7/2/2009 11:20:37 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 
march4
Cameron, MO
age: 41


Circles have appeared worldwide in wheat, oats, spinach, grass, peas, rice, linseed, maize, oil-seed rape, sunflowers, mustard, barley, sugar-beet, rye, and a multitude of other crops, most cereal artists prefer to concentrate upon just three. These are grown and harvested in a smooth, overlapping progression; oil-seed rape in April through May, barley throughout May and June, and wheat from June until early September. In this guide we will give you all the information you will need to work with these plants, and eventually, with a little practice, produce genuine, dowsable, scientifically proven un-hoaxable circles patterns.

Equipment
The tools you will need are relatively unsophisticated; a 30 metre surveyors tape - this is preferable to string which tends to tangle easily... a 1-2 metre board or plank with a rope attached to each end to form a loop - this is known as a stalk-stomper... dowsing rods - these should be made of copper, and purchased from an expensive new age shop, or, in an emergency, a couple of bent coat-hangers will do... and a plastic garden roller (available from reputable garden centres, or, if only for occasional use, these may be rented from tool-hire shops for about £2 a night). A luminous watch is also useful as a summer night can be surprisingly brief.

Preparation

Choose location depending upon visibility. A field rising up from the road, or a natural amphitheatre in full view of the road, make perfect circles sites.

Dowse potential location to establish earth energies. If a formation is located on a powerful ley-line this will satisfy later tests for genuineness, and aid in curative effects, healings, orgone accumulation, angelic visions, benign alien abduction experiences, and feelings of general well-being. WARNING - If the formation is situated contra-directionally to the flow of energy, this may result in the opposite effects; headaches, nausea, temporary limb-paralysis, aching joints, mental illness, deadly-orgone-radiation (DOR) exposure, demonic visions, negative abduction scenarios (memory loss, implant scarring, sore or bleeding anii, navels, and genitals, etc), and general disillusionment. With no condonement by the authors, this may be of interest to satanists.

Plan design to incorporate earth energies. Some of you may decide to work from a diagram, while others may wish to rely upon spontaniety... this is purely a matter of preference. Remember that a diagram may not be easily read in total darkness - it is important not to use a torch as this may be spotted by nearby crop watchers.

Once location and design have been decided, retire to a local pub and wait for darkness. If the location is in a well known circles-prone area you may be able to pick up useful intelligence on the plans of the crop watchers (cerealogists). These cerealogists are often very public about their intentions, freely giving information on their own view-points, hide-outs, equipment (whether or not they have access to infra-red image intensifiers, CB radio operating channels, etc. They often even divulge where they are putting their own circles, which may prove useful. It is not advisable to actually talk to these people as inwardly- spiralling arguments invariably develop which will eat into the time you have allotted to real circle-making. This might lead to a smaller event, therefore defeating the object of your argument.


The Drop Off
After ensuring that you haven't been followed from the pub, drive to the field and unload the roller and stalk-stomper (the measuring tape can be carried in a pocket or rucksack). Be careful to leave the equipment in a place easily recognisable in darkness - near a gate or large bush, for instance. Then drive to a sensible place and park. It is worth remembering that an empty vehicle may arouse suspicion if it's left in a lay-by or farm track, or lazily by the side of the field. Our own advice is to park in the nearest village close to other vehicles. Then, quietly and invisibly walk back to the field.


Creating the Formation
You will have already decided in your planning where in the field to start your formation. Move to this point using the relevant tram, or tractor line. REMEMBER - Criminal damage is an offence! Do not move through a field without using the tram-lines.

Ritual
Before starting, a simple ritual should be performed. Whilst not obligatory, this ritual will assist in causing minimal damage to individual stalks while the crop is being laid. Using a long, curved, razor-sharp blade, cut seven single stalks for every circle planned for the formation. Place each one between thumb and forefinger and stroke until the stem starts to bend. When the stems are bent at a right angle about two inches from their base, place each sheaf at the centre of each proposed circle. If this service is not performed, a greater ratio of breakage will occur. Cerealogists who find a sheaf of sharply cut stems within the finished formation tend to automatically see this as a sign of genuineness.

Genuineness
A formation will be deemed genuine if:

1. you are not caught making it.


2. the pattern represents a shape which leading cerealogists could regard as of symbolic importance, and, therefore, useful on the proselyting lecture circuit, e.g. mandalas, Atlantean script, etc.

Any particular formation might develop its own individual folklore if:

3. it is made in a field which cerealogists later claim to have been watching.


4. light phenomena is associated with it.


5. audio phenomena is associated with it, especially in conjunction with 'd'.


6. mysterious substances are found in it - particularly if these substances are subjected to scientific analysis and found to be, 'not of this earth'.


7. a publicised prediction is circulated beforehand (this practice, however, may result in the pattern being repeated in a neighbouring, or the same, field). n.b. if you do correctly predict a formation, or rash of formations, it is important, like all good mystics, to exude the public manner of an enigmatic... this may bring offers of fee-earning consultation, or invitations to lecture, etc.


8. see '2' above.

7/2/2009 11:45:28 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

moraldk325
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,424)
State College, PA
age: 45


Izzy...Do you remember when you predicted a major catastrophy for June, and when I called you on it, you said that if it didn't pan out, you'd stop?
IT'S JULY NOW.

7/2/2009 11:49:07 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

moraldk325
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,424)
State College, PA
age: 45


Quote from gapeach7777:
I watched a show on crop circles (Discovery Channel or something like that I think) and one of the land owners says he is in his fields every day, sees nothing, then boom..next morning a huge circle. There was also film (I realize it could have been doctored) of a landowner filming a white light that was "flying" around his field. Next morning there was crop circle and a government helicopter flying near the ground in his field.

I don't know who or what causes it but I find it very interesting.


Those white lights hovering just above the crops are what we backpackers refer to as "head lamps".

7/2/2009 11:50:25 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

gapeach7777
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,543)
Ball Ground, GA
age: 37


It wasn't attached to a person and it was broad daylight. Like I said I don't know, I just find it interesting.

Time to leave the office and start a loooooon weekend! You all have a great 4th!



[Edited 7/2/2009 12:01:17 PM PST]

7/2/2009 12:12:40 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56


Quote from izzynotalone:
[And so—when it happens, everybody’s going to think “IZZY’s a PROPHET—HE SAW IT AHEAD OF TIME!” That’s what you’re counting on. voevode quote]

I have stated numerous times that I don’t consider myself or want anyone else to consider me a ‘prophet’.

And Jesus himself fled when they came to take him by force and make him a King. Your “humility” is in perfect keeping with a “Messiah” complex.

I am not sure why or what you think I am counting on either. (I am only counting on God) I have no ambition to be anything other than God’s servant. I don’t want anyone’s money or have any intention of profiting or loss from people’s actions, fears or opinions.

No—just their souls. And THAT is a far more valuable commodity.

IMO you are the one who is trying to make such a big deal out of nothing and LYING to folks so they will believe something negative about me,

It’s “Nothing” when you present yourself as having some kind of message from God—and EVERY ONE of your furshlugginer predictions fails to materialize?

And how can I be lying—WHEN I’M QUOTING YOU?

If there are any lies—it must be in the words I’m quoting—WHICH ARE YOURS!

(I have already clearly stated I am not a prophet.) I am not sure why you have such a cob up your ass, but I and others too, would appreciate it if you could remove it before you explode from being too full of shit…

Really! OTHERS?

Where are they? Name them if they exist.

Or they can always name themselves. And it’s not hard to email me.

I’m more than ready to listen to constructive criticism from others. But for some reason I haven’t received any from anybody.

Are you sure these OTHER people exist? Have they spoken to you? Have they complained to you, “GEEZ, IZZY—I wish that VOEVODE would just SHUT UP!”

Guess I’m just wondering why they’d come to you if they have a problem with me.

I have been ‘called’ to warn the sheep and to the best of my ability that is all I am doing, nothing more, nothing less.

I’m sure you have been called—I’ve called you a few choice ones, myself. [But curiously, just now, you didn’t say just WHO has called you.]

If you don’t care to take heed that is your business, but if you continue to insult then you are out of line

Then do something about it, why don’t you?

and hopefully others will see you for what you actually are…a lame a** naysayer with less credibility than myself..

Like I said, I’m more than happy to hear from others if they feel I’m going overboard. But I never blast someone unless there’s a good reason—and your fool’s prophecy, and your total obtuseness, and your absolute inability to “get it” MORE than qualify.

Still—you actually refer to yourself as having little credibility. When you yourself level such a judgment against yourself—don’t you think that should tell you something? Don’t you think you should wake up?

I’m not against anyone doing a lot of research like you have. What I have a problem with is the stupidity of your conclusions.

I’ve no problem with anyone who is trying to ‘warn’ the world. It’s just the way you’re coming off is no better than Chicken Little. You need a little, [okay—a LOT] of objectivity, here.



While Chicken Little felt he had proof that the sky was falling—all it really was, was an acorn.

Seriously—you need a little bit of critical thinking here.

You need to show “Point-by-point” how you arrive at your conclusions—if you want to be taken seriously. Give others the chance to examine your reasoning. Be open to the possibility that they might be seeing something that you’re not [like the possibility that it’s an acorn, and not the sky.]

Sure—no matter how good your stuff is, there are people who will still mock.

But ask yourself—is the hard time you’ve been getting from others, and myself due to your having a message from God—or because you sound like a Nutcase who refuses to listen to anybody—BECAUSE HE’S BEEN CALLED BY GOD?

You may not hold yourself to be a Prophet—BUT THAT’S HOW YOU COME ACROSS. And that turns people off—especially when YOU’VE BEEN WRONG, TIME AND TIME AGAIN!

Work with us here—there are those here who are willing to listen—IF you can objectively present your evidence. I’ll listen to what you have to say, and consider it. I get no pleasure from mocking the HELL OUT OF YOUR A** [well, that’s not true—I enjoy it immensely! But that’s only because in my eyes, you’ve deserved it.] I have never blasted ANYONE that didn’t earn it some way. Try coming across rationally and you might find my response also different. [And if they’re not—then others WILL SEE THAT I do have a problem—and BLAST MY A** as I will then have deserved.

According to the mayan end date and prophecy the trib should begin anytime. The first event is a limited nuclear exchange. Matt 24:21,22;

Let’s start with this.

First of all, can you demonstrate that there really IS any connection between the Mayan Calendar—and the Prophecies in the Bible—any conclusive evidence?

Second—you say flatly that Matt 24:21,22 refers to a nuclear exchange. Have you any conclusive evidence to prove that this is true? Because from where I’m sitting, it sounds like an opinion, and the fact that it is a reasonable opinion does not make it any less an opinion.

That is not my prophecy, that is what the bible says Jesus spoke.

Actually, we are dealing with two different things here—

[1] What Jesus said, and

[2] What you are interpreting Jesus to have meant, when he said.

I happen to believe God, you do whatever you think best...and I will do what I have been 'called' to do.

repent and turn to God for the end is not near...it is HERE!

Once again, I don’t do the Repentance Rigadoon. Let’s try to be a bit rational here. Your “calling” by God [or whatever it is] doesn’t give you special status. You aren’t in some special class and our purpose in life isn’t just to repent at your teachings. You’re not the Prophet Jonah—and we’re not the Assyrians.



Good thing too—the Assyrians were real BAD-ASS!





And guess what—they’re not just some dead empire out of the Bible—



The Assyrians are still here, and now:






7/2/2009 7:46:42 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 
bravehart64
Over 2,000 Posts (2,619)
Gainesville, FL
age: 45


Quote from izzynotalone:
Do you have any real evidence (links or otherwise) besides your own disbelief to prove they are 'fake'?

The most amazing thing about the recent ones are their size and complexity. It would take quite a bit of time and manpower to create these things overnight. How is it that all are 'perfect'( only the patterns are removed but the outside perimeters remain completely undamaged) and there is no evidence of any group or device coming in or out of the area.

Theoretically they could be done with a computer programmed gps 'flying' mower, but so far, I don't think anyone has reported seeing any flying mowers around the sites. Most sites are observed 'clean' the day before and the circles appear the following morning. (that leaves about 8 hrs. to accomplish one circle and then disappear without a trace)
try this one izzy ..Google crop circles debunked .Not to difficult is it ? You will see folks doing it and they will show you how you can do youre own .. otherwise I have more important things to occupy my grey matter with.. brave

7/2/2009 8:52:38 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52


Quote from izzynotalone:

Why hasn't anyone reported the flying lawnmowers?....


why can't I show a flying lawn mower? ......

{Then do something about it, why don’t you?]
well mods...you gonna let him get away with that?



[Edited 7/2/2009 8:56:23 PM PST]

7/2/2009 8:53:58 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53


Sorry brave -doing an net srch from your armchr dos not debunk crop circles. Lots of things are "debunked" and gullible people swallow it.

Listen to the experts in the field who are researching the circles. Most of the time a residual radiation is detected along with verifiable "microwave" damage in addition to bends and twists impossible to do manually.

The ligt phenomenom is real also and sometimes a small figure is observed inside the bubble. The truth really is stranger than fiction.

Yes occupy your grey matter with something else.

7/2/2009 8:56:36 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

librajason
Over 2,000 Posts (2,781)
Gateway, AR
age: 34


Quote from izzynotalone:
why can't I show a flying lawn mower? ......





That's exactly what happened last time I got pissed at my lawnmower

7/3/2009 7:55:24 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52


something huge is going to happen....

According to the Mayan calendar and prophecy the tribulation is about to begin. The first event is a persecution such as never before in history (limited nuclear exchange?) and will never see again, but it will be shortened...how limited...that is the question?
(Daniel 7:8; this indicates Israel, Britain and the US will be eliminated.)

( the end of the calendar = nibiru, poleshift in 2012.)
Pole shift is described as the 6th seal, Rev 6;12-17; (placing June 09 as the beginning)
Matt 24:21-31; Jesus also foretells of the nuke exchange (21,22) and the poleshift (29)

Why am I telling you this?...Eze 2; I am 'called'

7/3/2009 8:17:30 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

tater79
Over 2,000 Posts (3,830)
Springfield, IL
age: 30


Isreal, will never be totally eliminated, Izzy... The last battle Isreal is in... then GOD intervenes.. then it's over.

All nations will gather around Isreal, Most American's think they we will be there to help Isreal, but I don't think we will be as a Country being behind them. The future is bleak(not looks bleak)jmo

7/3/2009 10:42:27 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52


latest pics

This object is huge; and seems to be the size of Earth if not larger.
This object has so far been moving with constant velocity. If it was Mercury it should have immediately changed speed (observable difference) as soon as it moved "around" the Sun. If you calculate the speed of this object, and estimate the time it would take to move to the other extreme of the orbit. (that is on the left of the Sun), this object is moving much faster and doesn't seem to correlate with the Time Period of Mercury's revolution around the Sun.
Thirdly, if you observe the object closely you would see its luminosity being erratic and it has a kind of "aura" (of light) around it that constantly changes around it. This doesn't seem to be Mercury.

Mercury is not due to come into view until the 6th of July.

If no one has the proof or even an educated idea of where Mercury is on one side and someone else claims that it is not due for a couple days on the other side...
Well, the idea that this is clearly Mercury, does not seem as solid as it should be.

7/3/2009 5:23:58 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

twohawks
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,865)
Bothell, WA
age: 70


Ten bucks says there is nothing headed toward the sun. Twenty bucks says Crop circles have nothing to do with this at all. There is not a Human on this planet that can read what crop circles say.

7/3/2009 5:32:48 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

plaidflannel
Green Isle, MN
age: 46


Quote from twohawks:
Ten bucks says there is nothing headed toward the sun. Twenty bucks says Crop circles have nothing to do with this at all. There is not a Human on this planet that can read what crop circles say.

OOh my opinion is some drunk aliens saying,"Let's go F**k with their heads,we'll go do some graffitti."
they all look like this



[Edited 7/3/2009 5:33:45 PM PST]

7/3/2009 10:07:03 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 
groundchuck
Lincoln, NE
age: 43


July 7th is a date heathens celebrate.

7/4/2009 2:55:24 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

barbaque
Over 1,000 Posts (1,313)
Marble Falls, TX
age: 60


QUICK everyone run out and buy a smart car so we can prevent this from happening ,and turn on your fans and shut off all your power that is generated by coal or oil,OH NO WAIT the sun is going to explode and we won't have any solar power.DRILL for oil mine for coal quick hurry!!!I'll worry about it later gotta pay taxes now!!

7/4/2009 8:43:32 AMCrop circles point to July 7th 

izzynotalone
Chicago, IL
age: 52


I know you all want to play but do you have to act stupid in order to play? There is an unknown object you morons, did any of you figure out what it is?

asteroid iris7
Its looks like it could be this object > link to www.rasnz.org.nz except it was reported to be as big as earth?

Iris at Opposition in 2009
Iris will be in Sagittarius when it brightens to magnitude 9.5 early in June 2009. It is at opposition on July 4 with a magnitude 8.7. After opposition it fades again back to 9.5 in mid August. The distance of Iris from the Sun varies between 1.833 and 2.937 AU, so that at the most favourable oppositions the asteroid is about 0.83 AU from the Earth. At the 2009 opposition the distance of Iris from the Sun is 2.58 AU and 1.56 AU from the Earth. So the 2009 opposition is an average sort of affair. At the poorest oppositions, eg in May 2012, Iris' brightest magnitude is 9.5. At the best oppositions it can be as bright as 6.7. No such opposition will occur in the near future. Iris's diameter is 200 km. Its orbital period is 3.68 years, the orbit being inclined at 5.527° to the ecliptic. Iris was discovered in 1847 on August 13 by J R Hinds in London. This was his first asteroid discovery.

Some still say it is mercury, but then just one question for you: what is this new object that is now approaching the sun.

If this is mercury - 26.06.2009
What is this - 03.07.2009 ??

This was predicted by crop circles in the last few days. And scientists believe they are trying to warn us about something on 7th july. a CME (coronal mass ejection) from sun or a solar flare? and now a new sunspot is forming. This sunspot is growing and sending small solar flares... but if it grows it can damage our satellites, GPS TV, internet, lights.... weather.. earthquakes...

new crop circle july 4th It's a countdown... 3 days to go. 2 (days)... then 'the event' on the 3rd day.

Are the crop circles right about solar storm 7th July? Sunspot 1024 has at least a dozen individual dark cores...and is growing rapidly and crackling with B-class solar flares. The magnetic polarity of the sunspot identifies it as a member of new Solar Cycle 24. Readers with solar telescopes should train their optics on the sun's Southern Hemisphere to witness sunspot genesis in action.

7/4/2009 12:46:53 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

jongeo
Naples, FL
age: 53


Actually there is an Australian scientist who studies crop circles.

The article on the July 7th event is at earthfiles.com -look under archives and then "Astronomical information from the UK".

It's all there in black and white. What we may be dealing with - if we can believe these mathamatical formations - is a solar fare combined with a CME-coronal mass ejection. It may come as close as lunar orbit. Too close for comfort.

Could be the start of something.

7/4/2009 1:50:13 PMCrop circles point to July 7th 

voevode
Seattle, WA
age: 56


Quote from izzynotalone:
(Daniel 7:8; this indicates Israel, Britain and the US will be eliminated.)

I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

[Daniel 7:8]

I would like to know how you get the idea that Israel, Britain and the U.S. are the exact 3 countries that Daniel is referring to.

Can you give your specific reasons for believing this—and can you back up this up in rational fashion?

Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

[Job 38:1-2]

Tell me, Alvis—for all wights' fate
I deem that, dwarf, thou knowest -

[THOR in the Elder Edda, Alvismal 9]

Seriously, IZZY—not meant to tear you apart [I’m done with that]—just curious how you arrived at those particular countries, and not, say—Spain, Portugal and Turkey.