| 12/4/2007 3:53:39 PM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
soaring_bird
Marion, IN
age: 32
| i had an expirience in 1999 that ultimately forced me to beleive in christ.
there is a thing in revelation called "the bright and morning star"
jesus says he is that star, and that he would give this star to those who overcome.
theres also the star of bethlehem.
well i stumbled across this very star in 99 not knowing the biblical things about it, i thought i was watching aliens. but i soon found out it was christ come to reveal himself to people and test their faith in him.
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| 12/4/2007 4:19:40 PM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| I am not sure about your understanding of verse, but if you had an experience, then who am i to say you did or did not.
You are talking about an area, consciousness, that we really do not know much about. If your life has improved, then it is good. If it bothers you enough to affect your life, then seek out different discilpines and their perspectives for more undersanding of what is happening.
Each person will speak from their limited knowledge, so you may have to speak with many to get a large picture.
You did not say what you saw.
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| 12/4/2007 5:03:45 PM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
greg267
Kingman, AZ
age: 25
| what about ezikiels wheel,was he drunk on wine?did satan come to visit us,he is the prince of the air.
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| 12/4/2007 7:07:48 PM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
kingdavid2012
Fitchburg, MA
age: 45
| Revelation 22:16 Yeshua said " I AM the decendant of David, the morning star. Revelation 2:28 Yeshua, Messiah is speaking about giving the Morning Star to those who over come and who do not learn Satan's so-called deep sercret's and do not follow in the way's of the corrupt church of that woman= (church) (Jezebel)= meaning corrupt church also called (wh*re) or (prostitute). He was speaking to the church of Tyhatira in this scripture. Numbers 24:17 There shall rise a Star from Jacob. This scripture is refering to Jesus who's name in greek is Jacob. This is a translation into KGV who is really speaking of Yeshua in Hewbrew. One of Yeshua's (Jesus) name's is Morning Star. When He say's ill give you the Morning Star if you over come to the end He is speaking about giving Himself to you. This conscience connection between ufo's and Messiah from what i understand from this scripture is saying these are Satan's s-called secret's and are forbiden to learn. I knew those alien's were evil. 
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| 12/6/2007 8:29:10 AM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
soaring_bird
Marion, IN
age: 32
| well, if ufos are considered "devils" then why do people forget that they too were once angels and that angels are brighter and more powerful than any demon?
what i saw was a star ascending in the east and i knew there was something not human or natural about it.(like the wise men who followed it to where christ was born).
i watched it for months til finally
it came to where i was , i saw the revelation unfold inside of me, then came the angel with the chain and tied up the sinful nature, and christ came into me.
you were speaking about the "wh*re of babylon" these are people who think they know the real God but havent a clue, in the end they are the ones who persecute the saints or christ and try to destroy them. even saying that the christ they follow is the devil.
yes i beleive that some are devils but the majority of them are angels who did not fall from heaven.
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| 12/6/2007 8:46:10 AM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| A very interesting story!!!
you said, "it came to where i was "....i do not follow that..do you mean it physically came close to you?..how did it appear up close?
thank you
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| 12/6/2007 8:58:03 AM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
soaring_bird
Marion, IN
age: 32
| well i was actually scared tyo look at this star one night (july 25th 1999)
and there were two others who were with me. they too noticed the star as being un-natural.
i went inside to use the restroom and all of a sudden, i felt like i was burning in hell.
at that very instant my two freinds started freaking out (they were still out side)
i went out to find them crying and one of them says," its setting up its kingdom"
and also said "dont be left behind.
they said they saw something shoot out from the star and hover above the house above where i was.
for the next week i saw visions like scrolls in my mind, they were of daeth and famine , pestilence and war.
saw an angel with a rainbow around him.
the following sunday (exactly seven days later) i saw the angel with the chain wrestle the sinful man (my fleshly nature,)
and cast it out.
i realized that christ was trying to come in so i opened my hearts door and was made pure by him. and people i went to church with persecuted me and tried to say that i was evil.
i told them i saw the christ (no lie) and they didnt beleive me.
he washed me in his blood and i think was commanding me to crucify myself with him.
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| 12/6/2007 9:03:48 AM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| oh my, that does sound scary...nothing like that has ever happened to me, so i don't know how i would react....
you said," to crucify myself with him".
what did/does that mean to you?....it may mean something else to me.
but what it means to you is what we are talking about.
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| 12/6/2007 9:12:27 AM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
soaring_bird
Marion, IN
age: 32
| through all these things i realized that there really really is a god, and that i wanted to go to his kingdom,
well i gave up smoking, and sexuality and "bad language and all things that are impure.
i had been baptized with fire and the holyghost,
and one day i heard a voice say "close your eyes and when i did, wow!!!!!
i could not say or do anything because i was in a state of awe.
there he was in his glory,rays of light radiated from him, he was sort of like a hologram.
but nonetheless i knew it was my beloved savior.
he had a look of concern on his face but did not speak . he reache out his right hand and his blood came over me, i saw it dripping all over my soul.
then he stepped aside and showed me the cross.
now because of the things i had gave up for what i beleived in, i was also made a wothy sacrifice and that i should continue daily to commit this sacrifice .
this was also the beggining of troubles that very day the persecution began to happen to me.
i was ok till this persecution came from people i went to church with and loved.
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| 12/6/2007 10:03:02 AM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| Oh my, what an interesting series of events!
you said,"i was ok till this persecution came from people i went to church with and loved."
i understand....it is a loss for you...and when there is loss we feel grief....and on top of that, there are those who will have no mercy for your pain, and will set out to cause you more pain...they seem to feed off of suffering and pain.
do you feel better now, or is there still lots of grief?
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| 12/6/2007 10:49:09 AM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
soaring_bird
Marion, IN
age: 32
| well, i feel like i fell away because i was very frustrated with things,
for a long time i didnt think God loved me anymore because , out of anger i said go away from me.
in my heart i didnt really mean that.
but nonetheless i was attacked by an evil spirit, prooly the one that was cast out of me earlier.
jesus said that when a spirit leaves a man it searches for a place to go and when it comes back and finds the house abandoned it brings more with it.
and when this happened there were all kinds of blasphemouse things running through my head.
these were not my own thoughts of course.
but i returned to church trying to find the lord again.
when i could not, the evil one said to remember the portrait christ left me when he washed me in his blood.
i realized that that would be an image i put there and not the real christ.
so i resist from worshiping anything until i am face to face with my savior again.
because when i see him ill know for sure it is him and not an image or an imagination.
this stuff made me look really hard at revelation.
and discovered that the world hated christ sooo much and hated his followers that they would even attempt to chaNGE THE WORD OF GOD.
in one of the letters to the churches he says.
"i have a few things against you, because you have there them that hold the doctrine of the nicolations, wich thing i hate.
this to me is a false doctrine created to deceive the world.
every time i see the news or hear about the worldi just realize that it is at the doors and i hear a loud srong voice saying "there isnt much time left."
if i had a chance to be pure again , to wear a white robe again i would not hesitate.
i think i took on too much work.
i needed to be trained before going to battle with the enemy.
it is true you dont know what you got till it is gone.
but i also know that if i had a chance to follow christ again, i would not be angry about the way people are and i would never turn away for anything ever evr again.
even if i was permitted to go to heaven strictly to serve others i would accept the lowest
place in heaven if it meant to look upon the face of my savior just once more.
unimagined beauty and glory.
even beyond what i am a witness to.
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| 12/6/2007 12:06:26 PM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
kingdavid2012
Fitchburg, MA
age: 45
| soaring bird. Angel's do not need ufo space craft to get arround. Anything that is not scripture based such as ufo's is not of God. Not meaning God didn't create them just that there purpose is not Godly. Your vision's sound very good in nature untill the fact you said you felt that it was telling you that you need to be crusified as a sacrifice as Messiah was. This is WRONG!!!!!. The Lord God Messiah Yeshua made is that sacrofice for us all by sheding His Blood as our one and only sacrofice needed for the forgiveness of sin's. You said i went to church to find my faith and God again. My brother you don't need a church to do this for Messiah is within you and His Kingdom is also within you. You don't need any preacher, pastor, or priest to find Messiah Yeshua. He knock's on our door and all we need to to is open the door to our heart and let Him in. Yeshua said " if you open the door and let Me come in I will sup with you". There are Angel's on Messiah's side and they are infact doing there work as have been since the beginning of time. Your vision's my ideed be a calling to be a witness and to prepare for the battle of Lusifer and Yeshua Messiah as is all our same calling. I don't believe your being mislead by the evil spirt's (demons) yet The Lord God Of Israel's phrofit's, witiness's, and saint's are alway's persecuted for there testimony. Yeshua said "when they pesecute you in my name REJOICE for you reward in Heaven will be great". Im studing the heaven's and i have found a very interesting sight in the star's and out of all the heaven's just happeded to stumble across it. I saved the picture of this. The observer's of the Star of the east when Messiah was born were infact Majie (star watcher's) as well as King's from different land's. Yeshua said that in the end time's we will witness many spectular event's in the Heaven's. This may infact be one you have witnessed. If it bring's you to our Savior then it's all good my brother. Yeshua Messiah tell's us all to be alert and to be prepared for the BrideGroom (Messiah) comming for His Bride (church). "Seek the Lord God with all your heart, mind, and soul for He is comming in the cloud's and everyone will see Him and wail becuse of Him". Sread the good new's brother. Leave the ufo's to God weather good or evil. It's more important to help everyone on earth through Him witch we are born to serve.
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| 12/6/2007 12:12:05 PM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| oh my,,,grief over loss of faith.....i don't know the bible much...but there was a guy, Jonah, ran from god,,,ended up in a beast...but, ended up doing what was asked...
maybe some need to be in a beast for a time, i don't know.
and i remember the parable of the mustard seed,,,,all the different soils that the seed falls on...maybe that from what i know about gardening that applies to believers too...
maybe your ground has become rocky....in my garden when seeds don't come up i just plant more....don't know how that would work for belief.....maybe just accept that if it grew there before, it can grow again someday...maybe even better.
you know, there are some things that i wish i didn't know about...bad, ugly things...
and sometimes it is real hard not to think about them, but i think somewhere in the bible it says to think on pleasent things...sure is hard to do sometimes...
do i remember something about everybody being given a gift?....about everybody being a part of the whole and each is important for what they are...i think that means that i am one of the lowly parts, but still gotta have them parts...
do you believe in healing?
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| 12/6/2007 12:15:56 PM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
soaring_bird
Marion, IN
age: 32
| then apostle paul is a liar and jesus. because he says we should take up our cross and follow him crucifying our flesh daily.
i think you are misunderstanding me.
the meaning is that once we are made pure we are to remain that way for the rest of our time here on earth and when our flesh is battleing us to kill it(not suicide) but to resist what the flesh wants and seek only the things that be of god.
about the ufos.
you say they are devils but forgotten that they were once in heaven.
that means that they are unholy and like roswell new mexico have been cast into the earth.
that is wher this ungodly technology is comming from that leads to the mark you also describe as a chip.
and if i am wrong then so is ezekiel and some others.
there are evil ones yes but there are also millions upon millions of angels,
and those devils were once like them.
basically i agree but disagree.
thanx for the input.
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| 12/6/2007 12:19:10 PM | any one beleive in a connection between ufos and christ conciousness? | |
soaring_bird
Marion, IN
age: 32
| i beleive that if christ abides in you that the very grass you walk on would spring into new life. so yes i beleive that people can be healed by the power of the blood of christ.
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