Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs

11/7/2009 2:12:50 PM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
skipaway Bartlett, IL age: 44	Here's a few links on this story. So? What the heck is up with this thing? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572567,00.html?test=latestnews Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs The massive machine at the center of the world's biggest scientific experiment has malfunctioned again – derailed by a bit of bread dropped by a bird. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1225830/Hadron-Collider-breaks-thanks-bread-dropped-passing-bird.html Oh crumbs! Hadron Collider breaks down because a passing bird dropped bread on it It's one of the most expensive and technologically-complex machines in the world, but that didn't prevent the Large Hadron Collider from coming a cropper thanks to our feathered friends. http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10392917-71.html Bird drops baguette, halts Collider I am all for discovering the Meaning of Life. And though I was once concerned that you could never trust scientists enough to find it, many wise people persuaded me that we should still try. However, I am concerned with the news reported by the Guardian that a hungry bird has halted testing on the Large Hadron Collider. Meet singles in your area here at DateHookup.com, we're 100% free for everything! Join now!
11/7/2009 2:29:25 PM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
oletafive Rattan, OK age: 62	What? it is 200' underground. Oh yes I see, it must have been a miner bird. --=05=--
11/7/2009 3:43:30 PM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
tater79 Springfield, IL age: 31 online now!	My problem is, why are we spending that much money for that reason?????????/ or are we not helping pay for heir crazy expedition????? but the situation is funny
11/7/2009 11:44:30 PM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
eagleeyes7 Fort Myers, FL age: 62	The money spent to construct the LHC is less than it takes to run the "war/occupation" in Iraq for a month, so unless you would rather spend your tax dollars killing Iraqi's, it is a pittance for the portion the US actually has invested into the particle accelerator. The total cost of the LHC was projected to be only $6 Billion, and as I said, the US has a small part of that cost, for there are several other nations contributing. I'm with Oleta5 on this one, a "minerbird", YEAH!! I don't buy into the "bird/bread" scenario, as the LHC is located 100 meters underground, and the entry points to inspect and maintain it are sealed chambers with elevators, so a bird would have to be pretty smart, or hitched a ride in someone's pocket, to have ended up in the tunnel complex! I think someone dropped part of their lunch into a sensitive area, and doesn't want to admit the goof-up! I'm waiting until they create a mini-black hole, and then later, learn how to manipulate the space/time continuum to see the future. Although this may have already been done by black programs dealing with exotic energy such as Nikola Tesla's Aetheric energy, which we would now call "Zero Point Energy", but not in the realm of "known science".
11/8/2009 12:15:45 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
eagleeyes7 Fort Myers, FL age: 62	Well, if they do find the Higgs Boson, I would be surprised, as the recent discovery that 78% of the Universe is dark matter, and nearly 17% is dark energy, leaving our pitifully small 5% of light reflecting matter, is still hard to realize. Then there is the String Theory for the Universe, and Stephen Hawking's latest postulate that there are no less than 11 dimensions, and possibly as many as 30 dimensions that we may inhabit portions of! Now, several Astrophysicist's are postulating that there are several "multi-verses" linked all together like bubbles touching one another. Things are getting interesting, and I'm waiting for the release of technology that regulates vibrational frequencies, which can allow matter to pass through other matter vibrating in harmony. Tesla had already written a paper on this back in 1934! Of course the FBI stole all his notes when he mysteriously died, so they may never release this technology that he claimed to have already invented.
11/8/2009 12:22:24 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
trippy_hare Arvada, CO age: 27	The entire thing is basically a bunch of sensors looking at a point, and at that point, a beam of ultra-tiny particles going in opposite directions smash into each other. These collisions happen every day as cosmic rays hit the atmosphere- but we can't study them, because there's no way to predict where in the entire atmosphere a particle will collide. The LHC gives scientists a place to mimic these collisions, under CONTROLLED circumstances. A bread crumb landing on or near the beam would be akin to the moon landing on or near Earth- because the LHC operates using particles on a VERY small scale, and solid objects are made up of millions of molecules- which are made up of millions of atoms- which are made up of millions of subatomic particles- dropping a crumb into the beam would completely skew the data collected.
11/8/2009 12:35:54 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
twohawks Bothell, WA age: 70	Ok! I'm about as far from a scientist as you can get, so my question is...what the heck is a Hadron Collider?
11/8/2009 2:41:40 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
daddydeep Walterboro, SC age: 68	Look it up on WIKKI, the explanation of what it is and what it will do (something about proving Basons) is all doubletalk. It probably will knock Earth off its axis when they turn it on, maybe the birdshit saved manking ha ha.
11/8/2009 7:09:51 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
tater79 Springfield, IL age: 31 online now!	This is kinda my thoughts as well and two.........just that machine cost 7.3 billion dollars, what they say they are trying to do is find prove of the big bang theory.......which they will never do.. Because GOD did it.. plus let pretend they do say they figure it out........then what created the things that when bang all of this money, time etc spent is all for a "particle" yes for something that you can't see.....they want two protons to reach a certain speed the let them crash into each other to create a huge blast (300meter underground) how intelligent do that sound F#cking retarded scientists would kill us all....if they were smart enough
11/8/2009 10:22:50 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
oletafive Rattan, OK age: 62	The LHC is just a big atom splitter like the early Cyclotron but with more whistles and bells and a whole lot of steroids. --=05=-- . OK let me clarify that. The LHC uses electromagnetic energy to accelerate designated particles in a giant 15 mile circle until they reach nearly the speed of light then allow the super speedy things to pass a gate which directs them to "The target." As soon as there is an impact all the cameras and bells and strobes and lasers and gases record the event in a billion photographic images for study. They will pick apart the collision to see what happened. The LHC is different from a linear accelerator in that the linear accelerator uses bunching protocol to mass like particles into bunches so the impact has a greater chance of recording something new or predicted or old--really old. The linear accelerator is only 7 miles long. It is like this . . . . . . . . . ..... (those are the particles being bunched. --=05=--
11/8/2009 10:43:29 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
boo2y Dunlap, TN age: 60	Humans have been killing in the name of something we have NEVER SEEN (god) far longer than science. Who needs science when we can make things up. Hell some of you would say, why not just stop learning at all.... ugh
11/8/2009 10:49:27 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
r2d21 Suttons Bay, MI age: 60	If it helps them figure out how to make "Warp" drive for the future starships, then I'm all for it. Otherwise, what's the point? I like these dark matter and dark energy theories. They get their mathematics wrong so they start looking for something that obviously doesn't exist. Maybe they should just fix their math and save everybody a whole lot of trouble.
11/8/2009 10:56:04 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
tater79 Springfield, IL age: 31 online now!	Quote from r2d21: If it helps them figure out how to make "Warp" drive for the future starships, then I'm all for it. Otherwise, what's the point? I like these dark matter and dark energy theories. They get their mathematics wrong so they start looking for something that obviously doesn't exist. Maybe they should just fix their math and save everybody a whole lot of trouble. I would also add that they need to fix their ideology.......they are not GOD, nor can they figure out something that didn't happen, they are just too ego driven to disprove the bible, and too arrogant to accept the fact, that there are some things that were not meant to be know or figured out
11/8/2009 11:23:50 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
trippy_hare Arvada, CO age: 27	The Large Hadron Collider is a circular tunnel complex several miles in circumference- within are superconductors and massive magnets and particle accelerators(which themselves require a host of specialized equipment and materials to maintain). The experiments are designed to replicate the very first instants of the universe's existence immediately following the Big Bang, by accelerating beams of protons at near-light-speed and recording the results of their collisions. These experiments are, in effect, much smaller scale versions of particle collisions that occur trillions of times a second all over the universe as solar radiation strikes planetary bodies or atmospheres. However, since it is impossible to predict where such a naturally-occurring collision will take place accurately enough to monitor it ahead of time, the LHC replicates similar collisions in a precisely controlled environment. The entire experiment has to do with Higgs-bosons, a particle that has not yet been proven to exist, which would be the elementary particle for the Higgs Field- another "exists in theory" concept, that explains why gravity exists. See, many particles aren't affected by gravity- others are. And nobody really knows why that is. The Higgs Field theory is that particles "gain" gravity as they pass through an energy field (Higgs). Since every known form of energy field has an elementary particle associated with it, finding a Higgs-boson would prove the existence of the Higgs Field. Once we know how things "gain" gravity, it is possible we can "switch it off". It is also possible that discovering a particle with an ultra-high energy state- like the Higgs-boson- would enable scientists to develop much cleaner energy. The equation E=mc^2 states that the energy a given mass could feasibly provide is equal to that mass times the speed of light squared- so if we understand how a particle with nearly zero mass can provide the nearly infinite energy produced milliseconds after the Big Bang, it is possible that we could devise a method of harnessing said energy- making the energy gained in a reaction far greater than the potential energy before a reaction... which, as a side effect, could potentially reverse entropy. Erm... Basically, the LHC is a pair of particle beams pointed at each other, and a bunch of sensors to tell us what happens when they go off, and all that is to mimic the Northern Lights, but at a place where we can control where it happens, so that we can watch it closely. [Edited 11/8/2009 11:25:28 AM PST]
11/8/2009 12:40:06 PM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
oletafive Rattan, OK age: 62	Nope not the warp drive but the beam me up Scotty? Yup that is the one.--Higgs Boson god particle make that one and we can map a person then rebuild the digital info somewhere else --SPEED OF LIGHT TRAVEL. Yup that is it for sure. --=05=--
11/9/2009 4:27:16 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
eagleeyes7 Fort Myers, FL age: 62	I find that I wasted my time posting the videos that explain all the details of how big the LHC is (27 miles), how it is being built, and all the scientists interviewed in the clips talking about what they hope to discover, and how they are conducting the experiments. ARE THOSE VIDEOS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND????? Here is one that Two will like, if he can watch it to near the end-BIG NAZI UFO!
11/9/2009 9:55:26 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
walter555 Albuquerque, NM age: 53	The whole world is waiting for it to come back online. Hopefully it can verify Hawking's theories while he is still alive. Gravity has perplexed the greatest minds in history including Newton and Einstein.
11/9/2009 2:21:10 PM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
randomwalk_v2 Montville, NJ age: 38	A good sized thread on this already....very interesting.... Hadron Collider sabotaging itself from the Future A particle God doesn’t want us to discover Could the Large Hadron Collider be sabotaging itself from the future, as some physicists say. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/biology_evolution/article6879293.ece [Edited 11/9/2009 2:21:52 PM PST]
11/9/2009 6:02:21 PM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
ylekiot Stateline, NV age: 53	Quote from walter555: The whole world is waiting for it to come back online. Hopefully it can verify Hawking's theories while he is still alive. Gravity has perplexed the greatest minds in history including Newton and Einstein. Now that's what I'm talking about. Stephen Hawking is an unbelievably interesting guy, and to see some of his hypotheses confirmed would be awesome.
11/9/2009 8:11:38 PM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
walter555 Albuquerque, NM age: 53	Quote from ylekiot: Now that's what I'm talking about. Stephen Hawking is an unbelievably interesting guy, and to see some of his hypotheses confirmed would be awesome. They are working their tails off to get it back up. Hawking is one of the greatest minds in history. He will probably be in the same list with Einstein and Newton.
11/9/2009 8:17:46 PM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
randomwalk_v2 Montville, NJ age: 38	Speaking of Black Holes....and White Dwarfs....
11/9/2009 8:27:09 PM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
ylekiot Stateline, NV age: 53	Quote from walter555: They are working their tails off to get it back up. Hawking is one of the greatest minds in history. He will probably be in the same list with Einstein and Newton. Co-sign about Hawking. That guy is so far scientifically complex, detailed, and intriguing it's amazing.
11/9/2009 8:34:09 PM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
randomwalk_v2 Montville, NJ age: 38	Let's hope the Hadron Collider IS NOT self sabotaging itself from the future....because if not.....GROUND ZERO WONT BE BE THIS... ...IT WILL BE THIS.
11/10/2009 1:03:34 AM	Large Hadron Collider Halted By Bird Crumbs
eagleeyes7 Fort Myers, FL age: 62	r2d21 wrote: I like these dark matter and dark energy theories. They get their mathematics wrong so they start looking for something that obviously doesn't exist. Maybe they should just fix their math and save everybody a whole lot of trouble They aren't "theories"! I hate to rain on your parade of doubts, but this is really OLD news, and I'm surprised none of you is up on this. Try subscribing to http://www.space.com/ or http://www.spacetelescope.org/ or http://Cosmology.com Here, I'll do the homework for you, so you won't start calling me a "whacko" ! COSMOS Video News Release For the first time ever, astronomers have been creating a three—dimensional map of how the dark matter is distributed across the Universe. An international team of scientists, among them groups from Marseille, the Max-Planck Institutes and Paris have been using data from the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope. The results are published in nature online of 8 January 2007, and at the meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Seattle. This Video News Release discussed this discovery. More on: http://www.spacetelescope.org/news/html _________ 2nd Video This is for those who have an attention span of longer than 10 minutes, and a PC with a cable or DSL hookup. Well worth the time, Professor Smoot is a Nobel laureate in physics and gives a great break down of the COBE spacecraft which gathered information on the so-called "Big Bang" background microwave radiation. Berkeley Lab's George Smoot won the 2006 Physics Nobel Prize, together with John Mather of NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, for "the discovery of the blackbody form and anisotropy of the cosmic microwave background radiation." The anisotropy showed as small variations in the map of the early universe. This research looks back into the infant universe and provides a better understanding of the origin of galaxies and stars. The cosmic background radiation is a tool to understand the structure and history of the universe and the structure of space-time. These observations have provided increased support for the big bang theory of the universe's origin. The Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE) NASA satellite, launched in 1989, carries instruments that measured various aspects of cosmic microwave background radiation, and produced the data for these compelling scientific results, which opened up a field that continues very actively today. His talk was presented March 5, 2007. ** For Stephen Hawking's Universe series of clips, go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZa7px6NtFY&feature=related [Edited 11/10/2009 1:27:13 AM PST]