A very serious question

11/16/2009 6:46:17 AM	A very serious question
slowdancn Azle, TX age: 57	I have a 243 and love to hunt....however since I have moved to Texas I have done no hunting. Now I have my own place and am thinking of trading my rifle for a pistol. A friend, of a friend, called and left me a message he would trade me for his 357 mag. (possibly) I would like to know if he ask me for money on top of my 243 what is a fair price. I feel living alone I should have the pistol not the rife. Meet singles in your area here at DateHookup.com, we're 100% free for everything! Join now!
11/16/2009 6:56:55 AM	A very serious question
daddydeep Walterboro, SC age: 68	what is the make and model of your rifle, in most cases HE should be adding some money to the pot as there are far more cheaply made handguns than rifles. As for a .357, that is a lot of kick for a small Lady, I would look for a 9MM or a federal.40 caliber./ .32s and .380s (9mmshort) are useless if the person even has a heavy coat on. I have all the books of values as I am a collector so let me know, Jim
11/16/2009 7:05:53 AM	A very serious question
sorpstar Wayne, NJ age: 57	how come i don't need a gun where i live unless i probably visited an urban city and was robbed etc slow do you shoot and aim like Mr Cheney I hope not If you move and own a gun/ rifle don't you need to license it in that new state too...i agree you can sleep with a pistol easier then a rifle and reach for it if you're in harm's way i would believe...to me a trade is a trade even up if he didn't say in addition to your trade other consideration (money)
11/16/2009 7:10:16 AM	A very serious question
slowdancn Azle, TX age: 57	It is a 243 remington bolt action. It is what I wanted. I hunt for meat to eat, but it only takes 1 good shot. If you can't hit it the first time...let it go.
11/16/2009 7:13:05 AM	A very serious question
pyllgram Checotah, OK age: 60	You may find yourself in a situation where you need the reaching power of your rifle. You can hunt anything with a 243. I assume you have a scope on your rifle. That allows you a certain hit when you pull the trigger. You can buy a inexpensive Pistol at the Pawn Shop. You don't have to buy a new one. You can find pistols and rifles at yard sales, gun shows, etc. If you want a pistol that doesn't cost much I would recomend a High Point Brand. They start at about $150.00. What is getting expensive and hard to find is ammunition. Buy all you need when you buy your pistol to practice with and keep enough for home defense. You should have at least 1000 rounds of ammo for both your pistol and rifle. Pylgram
11/16/2009 7:44:27 AM	A very serious question
slowdancn Azle, TX age: 57	I must be going to the wrong pawn shops. I have not seen a pistol for 150.00 or I would have one by now.
11/16/2009 7:55:36 AM	A very serious question
daddydeep Walterboro, SC age: 68	for bulk ammo go to one of the three below cheaperthandirt.com sportsmansguide.com Cabelas.com Buy in bulk for cheap, I bought for the russian weapons at case lots of 20,000 rounds. As for a pistol, if you are unfamiiar go with a revolver, six shots with no chance of jamming I also highly recommend a ruger .22 magnum revolver ,it is 9 shots and devastating with no recoil, plus you can get shot shells in .22 mag. If you do not KNOW guns or have a very competent gunsmith/armorer on your handyman list then only buy new as a lot of resales are shot out junk By the way, the new delivered value of your gun is 1,026.00, DO NOT TRADE EVEN. Shame on your 'friend of a friend" [Edited 11/16/2009 7:58:28 AM PST]
11/16/2009 7:59:56 AM	A very serious question
cali1234 Exeter, CA age: 62	"As for a .357, that is a lot of kick for a small Lady" DD that is what I have and I am scared to death to shoot it...will knock me on my ass...I have been told you can get some "milder" ammo for it?? What would that be??
11/16/2009 8:03:56 AM	A very serious question
pyllgram Checotah, OK age: 60	38 Shells will work in a 357. They are just shorter and have less kick. The 22 mag pistol with hollow points will stop most of what you shoot. If you really want it to hit harder just file the tip of the bullet blunt and it will do alot more damage. Pylgram [Edited 11/16/2009 8:06:19 AM PST]
11/16/2009 8:08:52 AM	A very serious question
mystic_heart2 Stateline, NV age: 56	I do agree with others...Do not Trade. I bought a S&W, then some lite weight bullets for target practice and then hollow points which I keep in my gun for defense. I figured that will stop anyone. It is a small enough gun for a small lady to handle. But I would not get rid of your rifle. And as others said you can probably get one pretty cheap if you look around. I chose to buy my gun new. I do plan on getting a 357 later. JMO [Edited 11/16/2009 8:09:52 AM PST]
11/16/2009 8:17:03 AM	A very serious question
pinetree10 Cumberland, MD age: 62	Slow- you might want to consider a 12 guage shotgun with about a 20 inch barrel. Less expensive, avaialable, ammo cheaper which means you can afford to practice more, and in a hurry you can point instead of aim, fired from a position along side your hip. Could also be used for hunting. Remington is one good brand. I am sure DD can help with more info.
11/16/2009 8:17:17 AM	A very serious question
empirebear Empire, MI age: 58 online now!	Slow,,, if you use the rifle for hunting, don't get rid of it. Look around more and price handguns both new and used in real shops, not just pawn shops.
11/16/2009 8:18:41 AM	A very serious question
daddydeep Walterboro, SC age: 68	Pyl is right ladieas, a .357 is just a pregnant .38. yoiu can fire regular .38 cal ammo and if you know a reloader he can make you some 'light' loads. For you Ladies, PLEASE go to your local range or police dept and take the course, allow them or an instructor to show you how to use it safely.A two handed combat grip would probably be best but for close range (as in my sisters house) I have shotgun loads in her pistol. DEEVASTATING in a hallway. As for the value of a .357, you can get a Taurus new in SC for 360 bucks, the most expensive ones are about 700. DO NOT TRADE THAT RIFLE> I hate when gun guys cheat widows.Shame By the way, Cheaperthandirt.com has a sale on for .223 ammo, different styles .223bulk=1,000 rounds=649.97 30 round clips-nato=16.89
11/16/2009 8:19:38 AM	A very serious question
slowdancn Azle, TX age: 57	Thanks guys, I am familure with rifles as I have used several in my life but prefer my 243. I have no clue when it comes to pistols. I shot a 45 and a 38 years ago and do not remember anything about them other than one kicked more that the other. I am not afraid of any gun and have been set on my azz more than once shooting something I knew nothing about and someone thought they would have fun at my expense. (exhusband) DD you and Ply make a lot of sense and I will keep good notes so as to get the right pistol for me. That is why I posted the question...I knew I could count on some of you for good advice.
11/16/2009 8:28:09 AM	A very serious question
slowdancn Azle, TX age: 57	Quote from pinetree10: Slow- you might want to consider a 12 guage shotgun with about a 20 inch barrel. Less expensive, avaialable, ammo cheaper which means you can afford to practice more, and in a hurry you can point instead of aim, fired from a position along side your hip. Could also be used for hunting. Remington is one good brand. I am sure DD can help with more info. Yes pine thanks, I have been told this before.... but I just got my new home...don't want to shoot it up yet.
11/16/2009 9:30:23 AM	A very serious question
slowpoke_1940 Hendersonville, TN age: 69	Hey Slowdancn - I will trade you this gun for yours
11/16/2009 9:47:51 AM	A very serious question
daddydeep Walterboro, SC age: 68	Cool Slow, where on earth did you find one of the rare .44 Democrat straight shooters, not many made that survived
11/16/2009 11:04:36 AM	A very serious question
ready_to_rock Albion, IL age: 49	I prefer the Colt Commander .45. If ya hit them in the pinky, it will knock them down. As far as the kick back on any weapon, there are three rules... ...practice...practice...practice. A .22 semiautomatic with a 9 round clip will do some damage too. When shooting someone always remember...empty the clip. Aim to kill...no witness that way. If you are in a situation where you feel your life is in danger...empty the clip. Leave no witness. Remember, the most dangerous animal is the one that is wounded. And that, boys and girls, is what Grandaddy taught me when we coon hunted. [Edited 11/16/2009 11:04:57 AM PST]
11/16/2009 11:15:16 AM	A very serious question
pinkster54 Port Byron, IL age: 55	I was always told a rifle or shotgun was better for protection than a pistol as all you have to do is half aim a rifle and your protected. Don't know anything about any prices etc as the ones I have ever had any dealings with were possibly hot being a child of a used car salesmen they trade for anything and everything. LOL
11/16/2009 11:20:03 AM	A very serious question
lucky7708 Minneapolis, MN age: 59	A sawed off shotgun, aka a scattergun gets the job done without much aiming.
11/16/2009 11:21:06 AM	A very serious question
ready_to_rock Albion, IL age: 49	Yep, that would work but it is pretty big and bulky. If ya do, remember double 00 shot fer the shotgun loads. Better yet, steel shot, or load yer own with BB's or pebbles. Screws up the barrel, but ya wouldn't be worring about that at the moment! LOL! A rifle is OK but the shell would probably go right through the attacker. That is why I like the Colt .45 with hollowpoints. Wadcutters. Something that comes apart on impact. Kill the attacker, then let God judge him/her.
11/16/2009 2:05:41 PM	A very serious question
jhnyy Rogers, AR age: 57	In addition to weapon of choice! If living alone and is at all possible A good guard dog is recommended! I prefer A Rot or a dobie!Just the look is enough to ward off a perp! They will alert you so you can use that weapon! Good luck! By the way Sorp if I lived in New York City I would have an Arsenal! But for here in Ar. The 8 weapons I have are enough! My shotgun load is buckshot slug buckshot etc! And yes Empty it!Sorry about that perp!!! [Edited 11/16/2009 2:07:29 PM PST]
11/16/2009 2:12:23 PM	A very serious question
pyllgram Checotah, OK age: 60	You can put $2.70 cents in dimes in a 12 gauge shotgun shell. I would not want to be on the receiving end of one of those. Pylgram [Edited 11/16/2009 2:12:44 PM PST]
11/16/2009 2:20:09 PM	A very serious question
daddydeep Walterboro, SC age: 68	In the 12 gauge shells there is a law enforcement round that has one.65 lead ball and 6 #1 buck pellets you also have the door breacher round which will shoot the lock out of a steel door. all for sale at the sites I gave earlier. If you have a .410 gauge you can remove the birdshot and insert three 3/8 inch steel balls used for slingshots, tear a room up. Ladies ,you can also go to the BUDK.com site and buy tasers , 1,000,000 volts for 49.95 Or that K-Bar for 'close in wet work' ha ha
11/16/2009 2:23:15 PM	A very serious question
slowdancn Azle, TX age: 57	Thanks for all your help, the delima about trading has be answered and I truly appreciate it. Now all I have to do is choose the correct hand gun for me. You guys have been very helpful and given me a lot to think about. Thanks. Oh and I do know with the way this world is going. I would rather buy from down under.
11/16/2009 2:26:11 PM	A very serious question
trailtracker Marion, OH age: 53	I agree that is not a good trade. As far as getting something for protection. Go to your local gun shop. Most of them have indoor ranges. Most of them will let you try different weapons. When you find one that is comfortable to you that is your weapon. I like the revolver because of less chance of jamming and easier to clean. But I have both. Watch getting too much gun. Some can shoot through walls and if your not the only one in house or live close to other houses that might be something you'll want to think about. The main thing you want to think about before getting that weapon for protection is. "Can I actually kill someone" if you hesitate that weaopon can become your worst nightmare. Don't get in a hurry to buy. Shop! Like I have to tell a woman that!
11/16/2009 8:57:37 PM	A very serious question
elzi Delaware, OH age: 60	Ya got some good info on here!! I'm certainly not an expert like some of these guys, but I had a Taurus 357 short barrel (which I almost immediately switched to shooting 38s 'cause of the big bruising kick of the 357 hollow points, or whatever they were??) -- I only used it a couple of times at the shooting range AFTER taking a PRO gun class. And as someone mentioned, our local gun shop has a shooting range & you can pay to try-out various guns to see what you like best, so you might find one near you. Since I've been outta work for toooo long & needed the money (plus I hadn't been to the shooting range for years), I decided to sell 2 of my 3 guns, keeping one for home protection. I did a bunch of research & went to 3 different gun shops and/or ranges, plus talked to some gun owners to get a good idea of what I could get for my guns. Then I watched for the local gun show -- I got 300 for my Taurus, and also sold my favorite 22 rifle that was so much fun at the target range! It also was rarely used & it had a rare stock so I got 200. I ended-up keeping my "quarter-inch-legal" sawed-off 12 gauge shotgun for home protection. PLUS I have 2 dogs for First Alert!! And the OP seems to know about guns ... but for those that don't -- YES, TAKE A GUN CLASS!! You have to be able to handle the gun or it only puts You in MORE danger!! And the classes will drill into you that IF you're gonna point it and IF you feel that your life is in danger, THEN put your finger on the trigger & BE PREPARED TO FIRE. And DITTO on the wounded animal concept -- most people have to be coached to actually be prepared to shoot ... and NOT leave yourself open for the criminal to drag you thru court for hurting them!!! Be sure to check-out the new Castle law -- at least in Ohio, you no longer have to drag them in if they fall back thru a window or backwards out the door!!
11/16/2009 9:28:52 PM	A very serious question
jazzzdanz Birmingham, AL age: 59	Slow... You have received a LOT of excellent info here! I've also gleaned things from this thread. Keep the rifle. Shop around for a decent handgun. I prefer 9mm or .38 due to my size. Had a .357 and even though I could handle the kick... a lot of women can't and there is no need to with other options for handguns out there. I've kept all my rifles and am so glad now I did! IMHO, don't trade or sell your rifle. Just get a good pistol. [Edited 11/16/2009 9:29:42 PM PST]
11/16/2009 11:13:34 PM	A very serious question
darton Greensburg, PA age: 54	If you do go with the .357 may I suggest .38 Special +P ammo. Less kick than a .357 and more punch than regular .38 Special ammo. Also +P ammo is not recommended for pistols with less than a 4" barrel. I love my 1911's and recommend 45acp as the best defensive round for seasoned shooters. However, I am leary about recommending auto for anyone who hasn't shot handguns for any length of time. Even the best of autos malfunction on occasion, the cheaper ones can do so more often. Stovepiping is a common problem in cheaper autos, I've seen it at the range dozens of times. So unless you have the presence of mind to 'rack the slide' should that occur, you may find yourself in a rather precarious situation in a fire fight. That is why I recommend a good old 'wheel gun' for those who haven't shot a lot. They are dependable and malfunctions are virtually nonexsistant. Many would argue that the 'wheel gun' cannot be reloaded as fast as an auto, and I defer to this. However, 99.9% of all defensive actions taken with a hand gun are 3 shots or less at a distance of less than 12 feet. So unless you are involved in an all out war, a wheel gun should suffice for your needs. I am a qualified instructor and have made the this recommendation to many women.
11/16/2009 11:42:39 PM	A very serious question
lostinwyoming Evanston, WY age: 52	you could sell your rifle and make enough to buy a nice 3030 lever action rifle for hunting and have enough left over to get a pistol too. if ya can,look around the pawn shops,and never pay the price that's marked.that's the fools price.never paid a marked price for anything in a pawn shop.as for a good handgun check out the ruger 357 9mm combo.it has two cylinders.one shoots 357 rounds and the other 9mm. you can target shoot with the 9mm cylinder and use the 357 for self defense.good luck and don't shoot your eye out.lolz.
11/17/2009 6:47:47 AM	A very serious question
binbasha Pittsfield, IL age: 55	think shotgun, think break action single or double..bird shot at thirty feet is very very lethal, and you get a lil bit more aiming tolerence!! my daughter took the old family barn gun(single barrel 20 gauge) to school with her cause of the "rapes" and beatings that were going on there a few years back..came home to an invaded house and "shot" the dude..he did not die but is a steer now..no repercusions and she did not miss..just for thinking..mho
11/17/2009 7:54:24 AM	A very serious question
slowdancn Azle, TX age: 57	Well the friend of a friend called last night.....he lost interest when I said I would not trade. He Was not interested in selling.
11/17/2009 8:31:50 AM	A very serious question
binbasha Pittsfield, IL age: 55	you know if you shot that rifle well, you got the problem solved already!!lots of ladies out there with long arms (rifles and shotguns) and honestly it would scare me alot more than a pistol...just would..