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2/12/2008 12:59:29 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

oceans5555
Chevy Chase, MD
age: 64

Now THAT, my friend, is a mystery!

Oceans

2/12/2008 1:10:56 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

stormbay
Tasmania
Australia
age: 63

If you do have factual evidence please present it so we can see the darkness.

Faith is a personal journey and NO ONE can prove God doesn't exist.


God only exists in the mind of the unevolved fearful superstitious of the world, that is a fact borne out by not one piece of verifiable evidence exists as proof of god, even the hole-y books of the christian and jewish cults have only their debauchery to support them as fact. Islam's history and it's books are filled with the debauchery of its prophets actions against both no believers and believers. This scenario fills the history of yahweh. That alone is proof god doesn't exist in reality, but only within the minds of the irresponsible and that proof is verified in the supposed loving words supposedly attributed to god and the actions through the minds of his followers. These actions honestly reflect the actions recorded in the mythical stories and emulated in full by the followers of god world wide throughout history.

It's easy to prove god doesn't exist, as there is nothing to prove he does. But you can prove god only exists within the deluded minds of it's followers, by the way they emulate his actions as described in the OT, koran and the entire history of gods followers world wide. What you have to provide is verifiable evidence that the belief in the mythical god, has brought peace. Love and harmony to the world, sadly for you the opposite is the only proof. In gods house, I was being generous, the reality is all the 1000 rooms of god are filed with the filth of their world wide acts and are top up to over flowing with the rotting carcases of the slaughter in gods name.

2/12/2008 2:00:02 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 53 online now!

Amen to that brother stormbay...you have a way with words that excites the hell out of me. I understand it can be pretty darn confusing for the sheeple to get it around in their minds that this loving God they speak of is dangerous, violent and loves to torture and destroy the very life he has given them. It has been through the fraudulent use of the conveyance of language by their rulers, where the sheeple are tricked into believing one thing, when another thing entirely has taken place.

When they hear, or see the words "loving God" strung together in a sentence, that's all she wrote. Game over and it didn't take much to convince them that God was infact, very loving. Because somewhere in that comic book called the bible, it said something to that effect. I think it did anyway, because I never wasted my time reading it, well I tried when I was about 10, but I just couldn't take it anymore.



They feel that if he was infact all those naughty things, that they would surely be notified and be shown the proof from their government, clearly explaining that God had really been mishaving all this time and had been underhandedly killing the beautiful loving creatures he created.



It is extrememly difficult to come to terms with the idea that the sheeples' loving God (notice the language, "loving" God) could have possibly had it out to undermine its own order and creation, the very nature of its God loving self, in order to prove himself to his own species that he loves those things he created so much, that he has to kill them too, for the last 10 to 50 thousand years.

In my mind, it is all too clear, if there was this so called "loving" type of God, then not one shot would have had to have ever been fired, in all that time. I realize its tuff to grasp such a concept, though God either is, or he is not, a loving all mighty God. In my mind, if this "loving" God was so wonderful etc etc etc...why do the sheeple find themselves begging for forgiveness to him?...hmmm. So God wants you to beg aye. God wants you to be ashamed of yourself too, while you are at it aye?

The sheeple love that everyday good feeling they are delivered from their spiritual and governmental representives when they look down their noses at them and treat them with a contemptuos nature. They love the brow beating they get from big daddy and company, and on occasion they get together and celebrate by giving each other high fives and lots of laughing and good times together, with an assortment of dips and chips and lots of beer and booze so they can all feel really miserable together about getting it up the cazooo

In order to feel better about themselves and to keep from totally and completely losing it, they have to pay for their sins of self torture about feeling ashamed and all this begging they've had to do. That is why they need to keep passing that all mightly God loving basket, from one dummy to the next.





[Edited 2/12/2008 2:30:00 PM]

2/12/2008 2:11:29 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

stormbay
Tasmania
Australia
age: 63

Excellent post Jewelz you got it in one, not only are they sheeples, but true and devout masochists who revel in being punished and never forgiven. Is that psychopathic, sociopathic or just pathetic.

2/12/2008 2:17:02 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42

I understand why we created israel the entire world was in an economic upheaval. It had been war after war, and the jews are always the first to get kicked out.

MY problem isn't with the Jews. my problem is with the Zionists, that take a book written by their own people, and they twist it to form some half baked argument that the LAND is theirs. that wasnt the point of the lesson at all. and even if it was, THEY wrote it.

I should make sure I put it in writing that God told me that France belongs to MY kids families so in a thousand years all people with their last name can claim France? it makes no sense

I think the reason that they did it, is because they don't want the Muslims having the Holy Land, when it comes down to it, they are fighting the same fight that Abrahams wives fought. Christians don't want Muslims to have their Holy land, even though it is the same holy land. IT is their way of saying OUR dad was legitimate and yours wasn't a few thousand years later. and it is retarded.

YOU had better be careful they will start calling you and anti semite, I hiope you are ready,lol

WE are finding this war crime, and that makes me sick to the soul. IT is Dakkha

2/12/2008 2:42:01 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

stormbay
Tasmania
Australia
age: 63

I understand why we created israel the entire world was in an economic upheaval. It had been war after war, and the jews are always the first to get kicked out.


Actually the land of Israel was created to gain control of the growing and known oil reserves at the time and it was contrived before WW2 between the zionists, Nazi's and catholic church. Many don't realise how implicit the zionist were in the gehhtoing and finally rounding up the average jew for deportation out of Germany, then western Europe and when they that couldn't do that, they decided to remove all those not useful to the state. The Zionists didn't bank on their being opposition nor that some western countries would not agree with it, that's why they started a genocidal war, which is continuing war going on their, it just reflects the mind of all gods followers. This is more proof of the non veracity of gods followers, they even turn against their own to gain an advantage for themselves, a true sign of a non loving, non caring belief.

2/12/2008 2:49:28 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 53 online now!

curious, all the history you think know about religion, and you certainly know alot of it, has been handed down to you in order keep you confused and searching indefinately for answers to justify Christ Jesus and a so called loving God that does not exist. Every bit of it, is a masterminded construct to keep you so preoccupied that you are never going to find the answers you are looking for, because they are not where you are looking.

You are simply tied up in knots about a bunch of stories that never happened which was manufactured to keep your mind busy, so you wouldn't actually figure out what is really going on with your very life. You are wasting your prescious energy on something that never happened and your rulers love you for it. You are a smart girl going to waste about debating religions and that is exactly what they are there for, certainly not to bring you to God or Christ Jesus for heaven sakes.

2/12/2008 7:44:34 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42

Storm and jewelz, do I strike you as confused about my faith, or struggling with it at all? trust me, I am not.

I am not a christian, and the only message we really have from Jesus is the sermon on the mount, and it is the same message repeated throughout history through the different prophets.

I agree with you, that thse faiths have been distorted throughout time, but I do believe in a creator, and I do believe in evolution, and you can neither prove or disprove either.

so when you say they are false, you are stating an opinion, but to say I am tied up in knots is false, and presumptive. It is hard to judge tone on here sometimes, and sarcasm doesn't come across very well and I am one sarcastic little b*tch, so, maybe I have misrepresented my feelings here, but your complete dismissal of anything spiritual i think leaves too many question marks as well, there are coincidences that are inexplainable, and even prayer helps heal people, I believe in Casey, I believe Lincoln when he says that he was told in a dream of deaths, time and time again. and even if you can prove that it is a physical phenomenon, it does nothing to explain the existence of an intelligent source, while Intelligent design seems logical, it is not provable, it is an opinion, but it cannot be dismissed either.

2/13/2008 9:47:40 AMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

oceans5555
Chevy Chase, MD
age: 64

Hi, Curious,

Yes, the terms "Jew" and "Zionist" are not at all interchangeable. "Jew", of course, refers to anyone who embraces the Judaic faith, though different Jewish sects define this in somewhat different ways.

"Zionist" refers to a political movement launched by Theodor Herzl that called for the establishment of a Jewish State somewhere in the world, to protect Jews from the discrimination and harm they were suffering in Russia and Eastern Europe. Many Jews (but not all) and quite a few non-Jews (including some anti-Semitic ones) joined in Herzl's call. A political movement emerged which turned down more or less empty land in Uganda and Argentina to demand Palestine, despite the fact that Palestine was already inhabited by the Palestinians. It is out of this European colonialist origins that Israel emerged.

There are many Jews who oppose the creation of Israel and the harm it has done to the Palestinians, so not all Jews are Zionists. Indeed, some of the most eloquent opponents of Zionism are Jews. Similarly, not all Zionists are Jews, as there are many non-Jews who support Zionism/Israel for a variety of reasons, some pragmatic, some nefarious.

You have a good point. I hope this further clarifies things a bit.

Oceans

2/13/2008 7:00:20 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42

Oceans,

and who is on first?,lol

IT did make sense, and thank you, I hope it clears it up too

Shalom

2/13/2008 8:52:57 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

1pinkstar
Omaha, NE
age: 54

Curious: you do strike me as confused about faith.

2/13/2008 9:28:46 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42

OF course I do Pink, because you don't understand what I say, but it makes you feel not smart, so you reject it, That is YOUR ego not mine.

2/13/2008 9:38:13 PMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

1pinkstar
Omaha, NE
age: 54

Judgmental too.

2/14/2008 7:27:53 AMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

oceans5555
Chevy Chase, MD
age: 64

Hi, Pinkstar,

In what ways, specifically, does Curious strike you as being confused about faith? It is hard for me to understand what people mean when these big generalizations are made....

Oceans

2/14/2008 8:44:05 AMIslam, Christianity and Judaism 

curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42

Why, yes Pink, I would like to know, school me right, what is it exactly that says to you I am confused?


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