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| 2/17/2008 12:55:54 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42
| skunk, and jewelz, I don't know what a course in Miracles is,
but the statement of position yourself in the position of knowing nothing, however it was quoted there,
says to me, be open and accepting, to think or say you KNOW something, or even BELIEVE something, is biased. IT is egoic thought because it assumes bias, you know this is, then you know this isn't, by inferrence, I believe they are saying be in a state of open ness
what is this miracle thing anyway?? if you don't mind me asking??
For the Record, Storm has NOT mixed me up.
[Edited 2/17/2008 12:56:57 PM]
| | 2/17/2008 12:57:51 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42
| Ohm Mani Padme Hum, Om Mani Padme Hum, Ohm Mani PAdme hum, Please! lol
| | 2/17/2008 1:08:20 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | | skunkbreath Saint James, MO age: 89
| CURIOUS-, I WAS refering to myself as being confused...
you can do the "course in miracles" online...it comes as a book and a wookbook, i think...
very interesting story about how it came about...
| | 2/17/2008 1:11:56 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  stormbay Tasmania Australia age: 63
| What a lovely day today, it's always good to wake up and have good laugh to look forward to.
what delusions do I support exactly Storm?? I answered your question, I led you directly TO the documents, NOT all Roman I might add,
Actually you linked to a google search and not directly to the verifiable documents,. This was after numerous requests and shows you don't have clue as, the first site listed supports my view, as does the Wiki sites and many others in the first 3 pages. You support is only from nut case churches, all the other support what i say, there is not verifiable evidence other than what has been interpolated into them. It appears you didn't even read what you googled, just dumped it in in your blind hope I and others wouldn't notice. Your a true denialist incarnate.
Yes Adam, I believe in Jesus,
But I am NOT a Chritian
Yes people manipulated the Bible, so what, as I keep saying I don't follow the bible.
the truth is the truth, and THAT is GOD,
I believe in Buddha, I believe in Muhammed, but I am neither a Buddhist or a Muslim, what about it is difficult to grasp storm??
And your not a theist. Is this not a contradiction in terms and hypocritical to first say your believe in a christ and that he died on he cross, yet aren't a christian, or theist. You don't follow the bible, yet you believe in the events of the main figure in the bible, against the reliable evidence. Then you try to justify the changes to support your non christian belief, yet are desperate to demand it's true and then say you don't follow it. My, are you confused.
Let's play your infantile game for a minute shall we.
I didn't say an enlightened soul suffered, although of course they do, are you telling me Ghandi wasn't enlightened
More baseless and ignorant assumptions of delusion in your desperation to justify your psychopathy, you get worse the angrier you get.
take what I like from ALL religions, and I don't care what you think about it, I don't need you or anyoner else to validate me or MY beliefs. They are MINE.
Now you trying to say it's your belief and not others, even though they are all derived from what you have read and been programmed by others. Really psychopathic.
And yet you don't know what the eightfold path is?????? suffering is what Buddhas message was centered on, and you are telling me it is about vegetarianism???????
The eight fold path has never been brought up, grasping at straws again, frustrated delirium, sad. Quote where did I ever said Buddhism is all about vegetarianism. I did say, vegetarianism is a big part of Buddhism and I stick by that according to my personal experience, against your arm chair babbling. However Tantric Buddhists and particularly lay Buddhists don't follow this path and in the main it comes from not eating meat that was killed specifically for Buddhist monks, which means any meat you buy was killed for your gluttony and not your need, so it is not to be consumed if you are a true Buddhist and not hanger on. However with all ideologies,they vary according the sect, but one of the most important aspects of Buddhism is to not to harm any life form unnecessarily and that relates to killing just for the sake of feeding you face to satisfy your gluttony and not for survival.
http://www.shabkar.org/
Do self educated people go to colleges and universities to be influenced by the Socially acceptable Structures of Common Thought and Belief?
Strings Self educated people do go to university so they can access and understand things outside the average persons ability and the church paid for my studies, which was very nice of them. Pus when you do these studies from within a seminary, you don't need the qualifications normally expected to enter university. However I understand you may not be aware of that in your limited understanding.
Strings, Storm has clearly talked himself into a corner, and has been exposed as a hypocrite, He says he has no beliefs, but he was a priest in the C o f E which he previously assured me was only a small part of the religious structure there.
My oh my you have confidence in your psychopathic stupidity don't you,.What was only a small part of the religious structure there and where are you talking about. I have never spoken to you, nor given you any assurances about anything, so explain your statement.
the truth is the truth, and THAT is GOD,
Not a theist eh, so you've made up some other name from plagiarising other beliefs, then denying them, then supporting them. I'll leave others to determine you veracity from now on miss inept.
is enlightenment the acquisition of or an opening to inner understanding?
Exactly right skunkBut also from outer and universal understanding.
It is a state of being, it is the position from which you experience and interact with the world around you,
it is an absence of egoic attachment.
Well you certainly missed out badly.
Time for Mass.
[Edited 2/17/2008 1:42:15 PM]
| | 2/17/2008 1:27:26 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  jewelz5 Monteagle, TN age: 54 online now!
| skunkster, you are something else what a quick fellow you are you don't actually have to do it, all you have to do is pretend to do it. It's kind of like humility, if you think you are humble, forget about it, because you're not. If you think you are not humble, then, you might be. It's kind of like, if you think you understand what reincarnation is about, you don't.
Though if you can empty your mind, and not think about what you think about it, then you 'might' have an idea about it. Very abstract stuff skunkster and you don't need to be a scientist or waste you valuable time taking college courses learning something from someone that doesn't know themselves. You just have to stop what the hell you are doing in your life and forget everything you think you know and start over, everyday.
Now if you don't get up out of bed every morning as if it was the first day of your vacation, you are doing something terribly wrong and I recommend putting the breaks on whatever is keeping someone from doing it. If it means you have to quit your job, then you better do it. Otherwise, you are going to be swimming around in a sea of chaos and confusion for the rest of your lonely days, not knowing where you are going or would you even know what to do with it when you got there. The sheeple are at a total loss as to what the hell to do with themselves.
| | 2/17/2008 1:45:08 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  stormbay Tasmania Australia age: 63
| You are a truly perceptive being Jewelz. I learn a great deal from your comments and admire them greatly, as I do Skunks.
[Edited 2/17/2008 1:48:13 PM]
| | 2/17/2008 1:54:58 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42
| .
what delusions do I support exactly Storm?? I answered your question, I led you directly TO the documents, NOT all Roman I might add,
Actually you linked to a google search and not directly to the verifiable documents,. This was after numerous requests and shows you don't have clue as, the first site listed supports my view, as does the Wiki sites and many others in the first 3 pages. You support is only from nut case churches, all the other support what i say, there is not verifiable evidence other than what has been interpolated into them. It appears you didn't even read what you googled, just dumped it in in your blind hope I and others wouldn't notice. Your a true denialist incarnate.
WHAT exactly am I denying????? YOU are the denialist, NOT ME
Yes Adam, I believe in Jesus,
But I am NOT a Chritian
Yes people manipulated the Bible, so what, as I keep saying I don't follow the bible.
the truth is the truth, and THAT is GOD,
I believe in Buddha, I believe in Muhammed, but I am neither a Buddhist or a Muslim, what about it is difficult to grasp storm??
And your not a theist. Is this not a contradiction in terms and hypocritical to first say your believe in a christ and that he died on he cross, yet aren't a christian, or theist. You don't follow the bible, yet you believe in the events of the main figure in the bible, against the reliable evidence. Then you try to justify the changes to support your non christian belief, yet are desperate to demand it's true and then say you don't follow it. My, are you confused.
NOT confused at all, I was quite clear what I believe about JESUS, you called him Christ, not me, BIG differnce, and IF you think for a second, that I am desperate about anything, you are deluding yourself, YOU are projecting onto me again, Stop tarring me with your own brush Liar.
NO, I did not ever say I believe in a christ or the christ, I did say however, that I believe in jesus, that he was a man, a wise, enlightened man.
Let's play your infantile game for a minute shall we.
I didn't say an enlightened soul suffered, although of course they do, are you telling me Ghandi wasn't enlightened
More baseless and ignorant assumptions of delusion in your desperation to justify your psychopathy, you get worse the angrier you get.
take what I like from ALL religions, and I don't care what you think about it, I don't need you or anyoner else to validate me or MY beliefs. They are MINE.
Now you trying to say it's your belief and not others, even though they are all derived from what you have read and been programmed by others. Really psychopathic.
NO, liar, I am saying that I don't claim a creator or a set of beliefs, I am saying that MY PERSONAL set of beliefs come from MANY different religions, Why is that hard to grasp????? no one BUT yOU seems to have any trouble grasping this
And yet you don't know what the eightfold path is?????? suffering is what Buddhas message was centered on, and you are telling me it is about vegetarianism???????
The eight fold path has never been brought up, grasping at straws again, frustrated delirium, sad. Quote where did I ever said Buddhism is all about vegetarianism. I did say, vegetarianism is a big part of Buddhism and I stick by that according to my personal experience, against your arm chair babbling. However Tantric Buddhists and particularly lay Buddhists don't follow this path and in the main it comes from not eating meat that was killed specifically for Buddhist monks, which means any meat you buy was killed for your gluttony and not your need, so it is not to be consumed if you are a true Buddhist and not hanger on. However with all ideologies,they vary according the sect, but one of the most important aspects of Buddhism is to not to harm any life form unnecessarily and that relates to killing just for the sake of feeding you face to satisfy your gluttony and not for survival.
http://www.shabkar.org/
Do self educated people go to colleges and universities to be influenced by the Socially acceptable Structures of Common Thought and Belief?
Strings Self educated people do go to university so they can access and understand things outside the average persons ability and the church paid for my studies, which was very nice of them. Pus when you do these studies from within a seminary, you don't need the qualifications normally expected to enter university. However I understand you may not be aware of that in your limited understanding.
Strings, Storm has clearly talked himself into a corner, and has been exposed as a hypocrite, He says he has no beliefs, but he was a priest in the C o f E which he previously assured me was only a small part of the religious structure there.
My oh my you have confidence in your psychopathic stupidity don't you,.What was only a small part of the religious structure there and where are you talking about. I have never spoken to you, nor given you any assurances about anything, so explain your statement.
the truth is the truth, and THAT is GOD,
Not a theist eh, so you've made up some other name from plagiarising other beliefs, then denying them, then supporting them. I'll leave others to determine you veracity from now on miss inept.
is enlightenment the acquisition of or an opening to inner understanding?
Exactly right skunk
It is a state of being, it is the position from which you experience and interact with the world around you,
it is an absence of egoic attachment.
Well you certainly missed out badly.
Time for Mass.
YOU are such a LIAR< and NOW the EX Priest that is a NON believer, and a DR, is going to MAss??? because I am not never have been Catholic or any form thereof, you are grasping, and OUTRIGHT LYING. NO I didn't miss out on anything.
and NO I said you don't understand the eightfold path, because you clearly do not practice it, and you are counter productive to spiritual enlightenment because you are COMPLETELY EGOICALLY Attached, LOST, and SAD. and please do refrain from trying to pickl apart my beliefs,
I did not claim any sort of intellectually rights to any of my beliefs, in fact when I say that I take them from other places, that usually means I am NOT claiming them personnally, and you are a DR right????? lmao
[Edited 2/17/2008 1:15:38 PM]
| | 2/17/2008 1:55:45 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42
| I swear to jewelz Storm, you are completely DELUDED
| | 2/17/2008 1:58:36 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  jewelz5 Monteagle, TN age: 54 online now!
| What do they say about the ones who scream the loudest? They are the ones that usually have the problem or they wouldn't be screaming in the first place.
| | 2/17/2008 2:06:02 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42
| who is screaming??? NOT ME, Storm and YOU are the ones that are attacking the belief systems of others, NOT ME.
| | 2/17/2008 2:18:57 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | | shell_belle Troy, PA age: 48
| We all eat, drink, and use the bathroom. And there's one God. Can we share?
| | 2/17/2008 2:24:57 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42
| well shell,
we can, but the avatar Jewelz, and Storm think you are an idiot for believing in GOd so I doubt if they will be sharing.
jewelz bless you, shalom
| | 2/17/2008 2:31:05 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  stormbay Tasmania Australia age: 63
| And yet you don't know what the eightfold path is??????
and NO I said you don't understand the eightfold path,
Your words oh honest and worldly one. More psychopathic irrational babblings, your own words prove your lack of veracity and the depth of your fearful desperation and complete confusion.
YOU are such a LIAR< and NOW the EX Priest that is a NON believer, and a DR, is going to MAss?  
Actually the high church of England held mass for centuries and still does in some places, more ignorance and for your information, “time for mass” it's just a little funny ploy I use to describe either having a beer or eating. But it always sucks the psychopathic nut cases in, which is always fun. I'm not a doctor, nor ever refer to being one. I completed a Phd that's all and only did it to find the truth.
Wow, capitals, screaming emboldenment, frothing at the mouth, deluded, lying, angry, bashing your head into your mirror. How's it working for you, doesn't look good for your blood pressure. Better take more medication, as it's clearly not working and try to answer form your own knowledge instead of fumbling round the internet and expressing you ignorance.
I don't have to pick apart your beliefs, the facts do that very eminently. But as a denialist, of course you'd jump to the victim scenario. providing debate with fact, is not picking, but making sense, something you probably will never understand in your depleted mind.
Once again you seem to think only theists have the right to post on religion, even when they post complete lies and baseless rubbish shows how inadequate and flimsily your stance is. Go beat you chest on the christian thread, at least there you can babble on without having to worry about anyone questioning you, as they all have the same bereft mentality and will accept anything with the word god or jesus dropped in it. May god rest you soul, as he has done for the billions of others slaughtered in his name.
My apologies to the nice decent theists on this site who do want to improve their understanding of their beliefs, as my above post doesn't refer to you, but I'm sure you wouldn't take it as being that, unlike the desperado's delusions.
[Edited 2/17/2008 2:36:29 PM]
| | 2/17/2008 2:42:17 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | | shell_belle Troy, PA age: 48
| I believe that God is synonymous with Love, and Love is the only truth. I'll keep it simple. Anything else would be arguable.
| | 2/17/2008 2:55:49 PM | Islam, Christianity and Judaism | |  curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42
| yah, I said the same thing, and Storm freaked, and said alot of lying bullshit, they project onto others their own inadequacies, it is sad,
BUT Jewelz help us, we will allpull through, Jewelz willing of course
shalom
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