Is there any Gaians here?

1/27/2008 8:46:48 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
bichela Winsted, CT age: 41	I am looking for other Gaians who practice Gaiaism or Christian Gaiaism. Is there anyone who is interested in Gaia? I am a practicing Christian Gaian myself who is deeply concerned about out planet and the importance of the environment. While I am not a Neo-Pagan Gaian I would love to talk with Neo-Pagan Gaians as well.
1/28/2008 4:49:23 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
skunkbreath Saint James, MO age: 90	Okay, so's i don't have to google to see what it is you believe, could you just susplain yerself?... in 50 words or less!...
1/29/2008 4:01:54 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
bichela Winsted, CT age: 41	Well, I tried to make it less than 50 words or less but the articles of faith pushed me out of that ballpark. Heres my response to Gaianism both neo-pagan and Christian: Gaianism is a faith system where we accept that humanity is part of this large system called Gaia, Gaia is Greek for Earth. In Neo-pagan Gaianism she is worshiped and admired as a goddess. In Christian Gaianism she is not worshiped as a goddes but is considered to be our home. In neither group are we considered the super race or superior to any other species but respect the other species as our neighbors and friends, all creatures are created by god and they must be respected and loved. Gaia is our home and no matter how you look at it. If she dies, we die with her. Therefore we are reminded that we must live in harmony with Gaia and her systems of life. Under both forms of Gaianism there are several tenents of our faith that remain the same for both groups These are from http:/./www.templegaia.org, where the orignal document and others can be located, edited for your sanity: Gaiaists hold the following beliefs: 1) Life is sacred, and therefore Gaia, as a personification of our planet's complex ecosystem. 2) The sciences of Ecology, Biology, Oceanography, Geology, Climatology, Astronomy, and Physics, are Sacred Sciences, intrinsic to the understanding of life itself, and our place within Gaia. 3) The arts of Medicine, Commerce, Civics, Law, Engineering, Agriculture, and Environmentalism, are Sacred Arts, intrinsic to the progress of civilization and therefore life itself, into our future place throughout Ouranos. 4) The human species is multi-gender, and these genders are: female, intersex, male, and transman, and transwoman, and all forms of human consensual adult sexuality (excepting intestinal relationships) are equally sacred, including heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, and multisexual relations, and marriages. Gaiaists hold the following as crimes: 1) Violence against humans, including physical, psychological, and sexual abuse, as well as sexual interference with minors. Violence committed as an act of self-defence is an exception, including defence of Gaia. 2) Violence against animals, including sexual abuse. Humane slaughter of animals for consumption is an exception. 3) Violence against Gaia, including dumping of toxic debris, and the destruction of endangered animals or habitat. 4) Discrimination and/or the promotion of violence against others based on their color/race, or gender/sexuality. Gaiaist worship includes the following: 1) The practice of a non-violent lifestyle. 2) The practice of an eco-friendly lifestyle. 3) The acceptance of all people regardless of their color/race, or gender/sexuality. 4) Research into or support of the sacred arts and sciences.
1/30/2008 5:57:19 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
skunkbreath Saint James, MO age: 90	hmmmmmmm, is there a conservative republican faction?
1/31/2008 10:02:19 AM	Is there any Gaians here?
bichela Winsted, CT age: 41	I don't think the Modern American Republican party would even endorse Gaian faith belifs as Gaians are: 1. Open to all adult sexual unions Gay, Lesbian, Hetro 2. Don't discriminate by Age, Sex, Gender Orientation, Species 3. Republicans also support and encourage mass consumerism, Waste of Gaia's oil, coal and Natural Gas deposits by promoting a non-ecologically friendly lifestyle, this includes deforestation to build condominiums and housing complexes. Gaians are much more aware that they need to live within their means and use only what they need, Gaians share. Republicans (for the most part) DON'T, they look for money for everything! 4. Republicans are NOT peaceful! Look at the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq to see what I am refering too. 5. Gaian's see themselves as part of the global planetary system, not just global economy. Republicans are primarily conserned with Global Economy. A man Made construct, that hasn't been for the good of Gaia. Now.... That doesn't mean some individual republicans may not endorse Gaiaism, I am a republican and I am a Gaian. Its the status Quo of Republicans who are not in support of Gaia. Being this borders on Politics... I don't feel its right to bring politics into religion. Lets either move the politics to politics or drop the politics entirely. I have said what I have said and I am dropping it right there Politics is a bore to me anyway.
1/31/2008 10:34:22 AM	Is there any Gaians here?
dana1956 New Braunfels, TX age: 52	thank you for your insight on gaianism. please believe me, it is your belief, so treat this a just a statement and nothing more. I don't understand how you can be a Christian gaian when the doctrine of gaianism is against what the Bible teaches about sexual relations. Rhetorical.
1/31/2008 1:59:28 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
skunkbreath Saint James, MO age: 90	bich-,"I don't think the Modern American Republican party would even endorse Gaian faith belifs as Gaians are: 1. Open to all adult sexual unions Gay, Lesbian, Hetro 2. Don't discriminate by Age, Sex, Gender Orientation, Species 3. Republicans also support and encourage mass consumerism, Waste of Gaia's oil, coal and Natural Gas deposits by promoting a non-ecologically friendly lifestyle, this includes deforestation to build condominiums and housing complexes. Gaians are much more aware that they need to live within their means and use only what they need, Gaians share. Republicans (for the most part) DON'T, they look for money for everything! 4. Republicans are NOT peaceful! Look at the Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq to see what I am refering too. 5. Gaian's see themselves as part of the global planetary system, not just global economy. Republicans are primarily conserned with Global Economy. A man Made construct, that hasn't been for the good of Gaia. Now.... That doesn't mean some individual republicans may not endorse Gaiaism, I am a republican and I am a Gaian. Its the status Quo of Republicans who are not in support of Gaia. Being this borders on Politics... I don't feel its right to bring politics into religion. Lets either move the politics to politics or drop the politics entirely. I have said what I have said and I am dropping it right there Politics is a bore to me anyway." errr, okay..
1/31/2008 3:08:03 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
bichela Winsted, CT age: 41	Jesus himself said nothing against or for Lesbians/homosexual. Saint Paul was the m most outspoken on that issue. Sodom and Gomoroah were not trashed because of homosexuality but rather a large pletora of sins. Including incest and rape. The men of Sodom wanted to rape the male Angels who were visiting Lot. Isn't it a hoot that he offered his own daughter to the group of men to be gang raped! Yet he was spared from being distroyed as well? I haven't studed the Talmud or the other Jewish texts myself to see how the other texts approached homosexuality. As a Lesbian I know that I am loved by Christ and I have been saved by his precious blood. Likewise I love my home, Gaia, without Gaia.... We would be Dead and deader than a rock! I wait for the day I see my heavenly hovel in my beautiful heavenly forest home. I strive to return this current home to its true and natural state as well as live in peace and Harmony with people and Gaia. I have no idea how long I have, I will continue to do so until I leave for the promised land. Some want to live in New Jerusulem. Some, like me, have been promised a good home in the heavenly forests. Not everywant wants to live in Manhattan any more than some want to live in the Amazon Jungles or the Colorado Rocky Mountains. Heaven provides for all types. If it didn't... It would not be heaven would it?
1/31/2008 4:00:19 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
deathmetalman77 Crescent City, CA age: 35	Leave out the Jesus and Jerusulem myths and I can go along with everything else, so far.
1/31/2008 4:43:32 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
bichela Winsted, CT age: 41	I do try to do so. But.... I was asked a straight on question how I can rationalize Gaiaism with Christianity and I had to respond. Likewise I dropped the political points being addressed as I felt they would upset many, including the moderators. Mind you, I strive to live in peaceful coexistance with others. I answer questions when asked and usually keep them reasonablly short. As for the poster who wants to discuss politics. If Datehookup.com had a politics forum I would have suggested we move it there. DateHookup.com, unfortunatly, does not. Thus, if you want to talk politics we would have to go via email or move it to nntp://pinkrose.dhis.org Planet Maca's (my own system) doesn't currently have either a Gaia area via Usenet or a local politics area, I can add them to C-news without a problem.I am the owner of the site and the C-news usenet newsgroup software maintainer. You can access my NNTP server via your usenet newsgroup reader by pointing it to nntp://pinkrose.dhis.org. No username/password required. Questions? Email me here and I will try to help with comments/suggestions/complaints you may have. Now since this is a religious area. As I said earlier I welcome comments/concerns/rants from Christian-Gaians and Neo-pagan-Gaians I am more than willing to do my best to not offend anyone. Unfortunatly... it does happen and I appoligize in advance. To my knowlege the number of Roman Catholic-Gaians is about ONE (me). I haven't heard from either Neo-pagan Gaians or other Christian Gaians. You are welcome to visit http://www.templegaia.org to learn more. There is also http://www.gaia.org but it seems to be more into Anime than applied Gaiaism. Not that I have anything against Anime. I love Dryads and Harpies but I also believe in helping the known and real creatures of Gaia. My Harpies are not Anime btw. you can find out more about them from http://pinkrose.dhis.org/newsletter.html My main website also explains how planet Maca's is operated. it is at http://pinkrose.dhis.org Thats all I am going to say about my website and usernet news server. Want to know more than email me.
1/31/2008 5:14:39 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
stormbay Tasmania Australia age: 63	1) Violence against humans, including physical, psychological, and sexual abuse, as well as sexual interference with minors. Violence committed as an act of self-defence is an exception, including defence of Gaia. Most of your aims are admirable and most sensible people would comment you. I like that bit, the use of psychological and physical violence in support of Gaia. So you're prepared to kill to support your ideology, why is that. Which makes you no different to ordinary monotheists. 2) The practice of an eco-friendly lifestyle. But you eat meat, dairies and processed foods, which are a major factor in destroying the planet ?
1/31/2008 6:02:18 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
bichela Winsted, CT age: 41	When someone or something is being hurt/injured or harassed we should come to their aid. Violence is not to be considered lightly as an option. It is to be avoided and only used as a last resort. As for the food issues... I am a vegitarian. Note NOT a stict vegitarian as I often have no choice but to eat meat when I go out. At home I stay away from meat products. Dairy cows produce lots of manure that can be processed and stored as Methane (main ingredient of Natural Gas). There is so much of it from dairy and cattle farms it is amazing how often it isn't used to provide energy for the farms itself. Methane is also a greenhouse gas. Thus using manure for gas production at least takes the raw gas and puts it to work. Now you got people growing corn for Ethanol... Not such a great idea as that corn was originally used for feedstocks. We don't have the land to grow enough for the Hungry American SUV. But then again... Very few people are willing to give up the SUV. If it means food or fuel... We take the fuel! Someone certainly needs to rethink the solution to our fuel issues. I'm sorry, I don't drink E85 for breakfast!
1/31/2008 7:21:45 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
bichela Winsted, CT age: 41	I did add several additional usenet newsgroups to pinkrose.dhis.org. Here is a short list of the local groups that only exist on pinkrose.dhis.org local.comics.fromharpysdesk Discussion of the comic strip From the Harpys Desk local.dryads Discussion group for Dryads and tree nymphs local.gaiaism Gaiaism discussion group. Open to all to discuss Gaia and her needs local.gaiaism.support Gaia support and advocacy forum local.gaianism.christian A place for Christian Gaians to talk about Christian Gaiaism and its role in Christianity local.gaianism.neo-pagan A place for Neo-pagan/pagan Gaians to discuss Gaiaism and their faith/practices local.harpies Harpy lovers and harpy discussion group local.homeless Torrington Homeless issues and solutions local.novel.macasworld Maca's world the Novel discussion group local.planetmacas Planet Maca's Opus and pinkrose.dhis.org discussion local.politics Politics discussion group. This is where you can flame any politics issues you want! local.poverty Torrington Poverty/low income issues Hope people take advantage of this free usenet newsgroup server.
2/1/2008 5:33:29 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
stormbay Tasmania Australia age: 63	I am a vegitarian. Note NOT a stict vegitarian as I often have no choice but to eat meat when I go out. At home I stay away from meat products. Dairy cows produce lots of manure that can be processed and stored as Methane (main ingredient of Natural Gas). Your not a vegetarian at all, vegetarians don't consume any animal products, and certainly aren't hypocrites nor have to make excuses for their fantasies. Every piece of food you buy processed has meats or dairies in it and you consume them for gluttony, not the good of the planet. Beef and dairy cattle consume more than 50% of the worlds grain crops and one cow to produce beef are milk, uses a large amount of land, but also an even lager amount of land for crops to feed it. Using the same amount of land, would feed more than 200 people for a year, whilst the cow will only feed a small number of people for a couple of weeks or a month. I travel extensively and never have to eat what is processed, or contains animal products. I can't understand how you can profess to care for the planet religiously, yet live such an un-planetary life as you must surely do. But then again, you are a christian and believe in the mythical war god called yahweh, and so hypocrisy is a way of life for you. Have a nice day
2/1/2008 7:43:35 PM	Is there any Gaians here?
bichela Winsted, CT age: 41	:I don't know how to quote here so I used my Mac's cut and paste to do this: If someone knows the magic quote commands it would save me some time. As the previous poster said: Your not a vegetarian at all, vegetarians don't consume any animal products, and certainly aren't hypocrites nor have to make excuses for their fantasies. I think you are getting Vegitarians mixed up with Vegans. I am not a hypocrite as I am honest with my eating habits. A hypocrite would claim vegitarian and covertly eat a steak in secret just as a Cocane user shoots up in the quiet corner of the bathroom. I cleary pointed out that I am not a strict vegitarian. However... I am working to reach that as a goal as my health is dependent on it! Ever heard of Dys-Lipodemia? My HDL (good) cholesterol is only 25 and dropping quickly. My doctor put me on Genfibrazil which I feel isn't helping me at all! I know Mother Gaia has the plants that can fix that. Ditto to lower my mass. I am making an honest effort to get my mass down and my HDL (good) cholesterol up before I end up in a box! Beef and dairy cattle consume more than 50% of the worlds grain crops and one cow to produce beef are milk, uses a large amount of land, but also an even lager amount of land for crops to feed it. Using the same amount of land, would feed more than 200 people for a year, whilst the cow will only feed a small number of people for a couple of weeks or a month. No disagreement there! I am fully aware that 50% of our crops goes into Beef production. I am well aware of the tremendous amounts of manure that is the waste products. I travel extensively and never have to eat what is processed, or contains animal products. I can't understand how you can profess to care for the planet religiously, yet live such an un-planetary life as you must surely do. But then again, you are a christian and believe in the mythical war god called yahweh, and so hypocrisy is a way of life for you. Ever lived on Low income/Disability? You are thankful to even get a meal! I have to eat at the local soup kitchen as the U.S $98 in food stamps only lasts me about two weeks or so! Those who have the resources don't quite grasp those who have None The donations they get are usually meat based. It often comes down to eat or Starve! If someone is hungry and someone was served dog chow... Guess what... They would eat it too! Sure they would love to have a nice vegitarian or vegan meal but dollars to doughnuts... the Dog chow gets eaten! In reguards to Jahweh and his warlike nature... I was thinking about that last night too. I am unsure where I really stand on when it comes to Christian Vs Pagan/Neo-pagan. All I see around me is all of these different Christian churches, duking it out by claiming they are the true christian faith! One says this, one sais that. One says you have to be totally perfect and of pure heart and consience to enter heaven. the other says that through Jesus's sacrifice you are redemed even if you are not perfect! I love my trees and my Dryads and harpies. I love the real flowers and woodlands and the mystical creatures of faries, nymphs, elves, trolls and ogres. I love animals too. I don't really know if I am as much of a christian as I once was! I still honor Jesus as he did do what he did. If I was to have one final wish, before I left this planet, it would be to be a Dryad of a Maple tree! To me that would be just as good as heaven itself! I know that Dryads are normally associated with Oak trees. But what do you really call a Maple Tree Dryad anyway? I would rather be a ambulatory dryad than a Hamadryad as I could do more for my tree than I could If I was permanently encased in it.