| 2/8/2008 10:15:34 AM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
fifi
London
United Kingdom
age: 51
| Faith is what keeps people strong. Faith is about the soul and the soul needs constant nourishing, so as not to become damaged by the weakness of others.
If faith is what gives individuals their resolve in life, then gracefully accept and
allow them this. Some of us have been bought up in a particular faith, this is what grounds us hopefully in our childhood. When we evolve into our teens, we can then begin to make distinctions between what we have been taught and what we are at liberty to question.
We can also choose to embrace certain teachings within the scope of religious literature, if we feel this will enable us to achieve a balanced path in life.
A childs character is very much predetermined by parenting and social influences. The moulding of a childs character is usually formed within the first five years.
These are the formative years, which are pre-school years. The significance of these years also has a bearing on the extent in which religious education can inform.
The first five years of my childrens lives were fairly free of any religious indoctrination and this has given them a certain amount of freedom to make their own choices.
Although I am not actively participant in faith, there is no doubt that it is my faith that gives me strength. It is important to respect all people of all faiths whilst still questioning or drawing parallels in religious debates.
I also agree that many of these religious based threads have descended into bible bashing sessions with quotes from the bible and very little reference to people such as Aristotle, Baudelaire, Descartes, Rimbault, Ayurveda (The spiritual) etc etc
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| 2/9/2008 12:22:14 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
| Rod your last post describes the way you are seen, exactly.
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| 2/9/2008 12:35:34 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 54
| queenof It would seem that it would be a pity wouldn't it. Though oddly and paradoxically enough, if you can wrap your mind around this. What he is saying, is more real than he realizes. Because, I have to take claim to everything he says in order to help him, I have to help myself with the very thing he describes.
Because we are all one with each other, we ALL are what he is describing, believe it or not. Now what to do? with a character like this...maybe the difficult part within each of us. It just takes practice like anything else and gets easier. In order to right the wrong that is occurring in him, you have to heal the very same thing within yourself, first. Because we are all one with each other. There is no seperation. Do you understand this?
[Edited 2/9/2008 12:46:38 PM]
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| 2/9/2008 1:32:32 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
gutthans
Deland, FL
age: 56
| JEWELZ: Because we are all one with each other. There is no seperation. Do you understand this?
Are you referring to PANTHEISM in some way?
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| 2/9/2008 1:38:51 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
krupa1
Abilene, TX
age: 40
| Take my word for it Gutt.....he doesn't understand about being "One" with each other....he understand seperationalism. At least it is a hobby.
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| 2/9/2008 1:52:30 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
gutthans
Deland, FL
age: 56
| KRUP: Are you saying that you wish that religious law, modalities of lifestyle and personal actions were more ridgedly implemented by the Religious establishment?......not asking this as a smart-ass Gutt....honestly curious.
Did I answer that already??? I was waiting for you on that one....
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| 2/9/2008 1:53:50 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 54
| gutthans, no I am not referring to anything other that what I wrote. Do you understand?
...and don't pay any attention to krupa, he is one of the confused sheeple word smithers who, in order to have anything to say, will turn shit around so suit himself. He needs a shirt more than he knows what to say, so he just says shit to say it. He's a little sensitive forum butterfly just hopping around from thread to thread adding his little touch of confusion to keep his sheeple buddies distracted with his internal world of chaos because he can't stand the loneliness. He dresses like that to tease big daddy into sucking his nipples because he can't get girl for all his smooth talking gets him more smooth talking, but yet still no girl.
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| 2/9/2008 5:09:19 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
gutthans
Deland, FL
age: 56
| gutthans, no I am not referring to anything other that what I wrote. Do you understand?
Hmmm? That all one the same stuff sure sounds like the pantheistic god in everything...I'm gonna have to muddle that over Jewelzzzz...
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| 2/9/2008 5:26:25 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
rodlynn
New Britain, CT
age: 45
| Jewelz,
By attacking others you come across as being extremely insecure and I wish you would focus more on yourself and less on others – maybe that is what you were trying to say in your earlier post about all of us.
Rod
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| 2/9/2008 5:34:13 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
| Why does it have to have a name? We are all connected and every evidense of human beings proves that over and over. We are only separate in body only, our spirits are all part of the whole.
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| 2/9/2008 5:58:29 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 54
| ok sure gutthan...I just made it up, why don't you go ahead and give it a name then and I'll give you more material to justify that name, so you can make more sense out of it. Would that make you feel alittle more comfortable about it.
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| 2/9/2008 6:02:43 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 54
| rodlynn, you are the one using words like 'attack' in an effort to give meaning to something that isn't there...and it is because of your very own insecure position that you do. It is not my position, because you are the one who constently brings it up, so you are the owner of it...and you are the one who does the attacking. Does that make sense?
From the time you came here it has been a bone of contention for you about who is attacking who. You start threads about it you like it so much. I have never mentioned anything about who is attacking who, or anyone attacking me for what I have stated. They are just words and you manufacture things out of nowhere and you always seem to gravitate to using words like attack.
You take a few simple words and have the ability to turn a perfectly good conversation into an attack, because you can't deal with what is being said or have the ability to rebut what is not true about you in the interest of defending yourself. When you don't like what is said or when you cannot deal with it, you twist it into an attack. That is a sure sign of insecurity and you loose any credibility you thought you might have had before you opened your mouth.
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| 2/9/2008 6:55:02 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
gutthans
Deland, FL
age: 56
| JEWELZ: ok sure gutthan...I just made it up, why don't you go ahead and give it a name...
Don't get excited!!! It just seemed to be similar to something I AM familiar with...Name only helps shortcut some of the description, that's all...if your meaning something more cosmic and less theistic, that would be OK..just wasn't sure.
Yo, Rod...getting back to the concept of GOD, I think the problem most express with faith as you practice it is all of the imbedded assumptions about the nature of GOD. Believing in a god or 'godlike' force isn't very difficult (in fact it can be easily logically stated/proven in about 2 paragraphs). But by the time we get through with all the add-ons that come with the typical menu, it's sort of like going to buy a basic Volkswagen and getting talked into a fully loaded Cadillac Escalade...
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| 2/9/2008 10:14:24 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
| Why do not christians, who feel attacked, just say what they want to say and not respond to the others. I say what I am thinking about or have thought about, has nothing to do with what anyone else thinks or believes.
Fear is what feels attacked. I do not live in fear.
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| 2/9/2008 11:03:56 PM | Why do the weak seek to suppress faith? What are they afraid of? | |
rodlynn
New Britain, CT
age: 45
| queen,
I am sure you are unaware of this fact, but faith and fear can't co-exist
If you knew the bible, as you claim to, you would know this, but you don't
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