| 2/8/2008 2:45:10 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | | 
satanself36
Lincoln, IL
age: 35
|  To many christians,they believe their god knows and see's all.but from looking at the bible it contadict that theory.
1] Gen 2:18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
Gen 2:19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.
Gen 2:20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.
But for Adam no suitable helper was found..................to me it seems like god would of got it right the first time?
2] Gen 3:9 But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”
Gen 3:10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”
Gen 3:11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”
Gen 4:9 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is your brother Abel?”.......................if god knows everything,then why does god have to ask questions when god should already know the answer too? .furthermore it seems that in christian mythology god does not know all or see all just because we have choice's and since we have choice's would mean god does not know the choice"s we will make........Gen 4:6 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast?
Gen 4:7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it.”
illuminary36 
| | 2/11/2008 9:16:25 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | | 
adameve
Lacombe, LA
age: 46
| Haha, pretty good, well said, but those it say i don,t no where you are, are did he say, i can find your brother, are is God give them a chance to tell the true, plus did n,t God say to Cain, after that, more to the story? and we don,t no if EVE came that much later. if read it it was still the same day. you believe he name all the animal in one day.? i no God love both of us, and i do no he said, do not fear the one who can kill the body, but second dead, be cool, and i like your ? does the christian God really know all and see all. thank you for asking.
| | 2/11/2008 9:26:11 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | | 
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42 online now!
| There is NO CHRISTIAN GOD
the statement doesn't even make sense, If there is a god, any god at all, that God created all things.
There is only the creator, if there is even that. I believe there is mind you, but It could be just a proccess.
Religions, all of them, are man made Institutions designed to get people to do what they want.
maybe you meant to say, Do Chritians believe that God can really know all and see all? In which case the answer would be YES, and so do Buddhists, and so do Muslims, and so do Hindus, and so do All people of faith, Including satan worshippers because they all believe that God is part of every living thing.
They all say basically the same thing, Love each other and always try and do the right thing, and always that is the thing that brings the least amount of suffering to the least amount of people,
They all believe that suffering is part of the cycle of change that brings us to a better state of being. aside from jeins that believe it is a sin to harm anything, and they walk and sweep infront of them as they walk, they all believe suffering is an inevitable part of life, and that through problems we find solutions, and through solutions we find growth.
The catholics even have accepted evolution for a long time now, It is the extremists on all sides that think superstitiously and hold on to outdated belief structures unfortunately, in all religions there have always been THOSE people, sometimes more, and sometimes less, but they have always distorted the original messages.
God sees everything because God IS everything
| | 2/11/2008 9:27:54 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | |
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42 online now!
| also, You quoted the Jewish Bible, not the Chtristian one. The Christian Bible is the New testament.
| | 2/11/2008 10:22:52 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | | 
stormbay
Tasmania
Australia
age: 62
| maybe you meant to say, Do Chritians believe that God can really know all and see all? In which case the answer would be YES, and so do Buddhists, and so do Muslims, and so do Hindus, and so do All people of faith, Including satan worshippers because they all believe that God is part of every living thing.
Buddhists do not believe in god, or god's, they believe you can become an enlightened one and at one with the universe, which would make you all knowing to a degree. They believe it's not what you believe, but how you actually live your life which determines your spirituality and karmic outcomes. Hindu's believe in a number of gods, not one. It's only monotheists who believe in one god, yahweh. There is no other and it's the same god in the Koran, bibles and Torah, the god of Abraham, yahweh, one of many gods and the god of war. All you have to do is read to original text and associated historical text, to see there is no god, so it can't see anything and that's why it does nothing about what it's followers do in their debauched frenzy of zealous mental instability. Superstitious myths, can only work through those who support the myth. That's all the evidence you need to prove god doesn't exist, along with the facts.
The christian bible is both the new and old testament, it's the USA contrived religions who discount the OT without anything to back up their deluded suppositions. Yet they use it for their creation theory and false morals, bizarre in the extreme.
| | 2/11/2008 10:32:14 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | | 
burnkitty
Fayetteville, AR
age: 33
| If a "god" or "gods" were to know and see all, it or they would have to be a fifth-demensional being. We are fourth-demensional beings because we have three visible dimensions and exist in multiple times AKA birth to death. An all seeing entity must be able to exist in all times and all places at once. The only thing that one can observe doing that is our own universe.
| | 2/12/2008 8:16:18 AM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | | 
queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
| If GOD is all knowing, why would he have not seen where man would go? Why would he regret having made man? Why would you have to prove anything to him [confess,acknowledge or pray to]? If he did know everything, then he would be the cruelest god of all for allowing so much pain.
| | 2/12/2008 12:07:39 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | |
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42 online now!
| Why thank you storm, that is correct, and I stand corrected, gratefully,
the Buddhists do not consider Brahman god.
But they do believe that the same energy is in every living thing, which although it's Name may be Brahman, IT is the essence of what others identify as GOD.
It is the prime energy manifest in all living things in purest form.
[Edited 2/12/2008 12:13:37 PM]
| | 2/12/2008 12:12:21 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | |
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42 online now!
| Queen, I think , actually the Buddhism would help you come to an understanding regarding suffering
and so would Hinduism.
suffering is part of the cyclical growth that all living things MUST go through in order to adapt and change, you are only focused on the negative, but out of negative experiences come solutions and out of solutions come change.
a lso out of suffering and letting go of the attachments and ego, make us enlightened
suffering isn't our enemy, IT is a tool that we are supposed to use to master the world around us and become more evolved spiritually,
check out that book, YOU KNOW that after your BAd time, YOU felt ccloser to your source, and you are getting angry when your ego takes control again. and when I say ego, I don't mean it in a conceited way, I mean the part of you that IS your mental inner dialog
suffering is for a moment, enlightenment is FOREVER.
| | 2/12/2008 12:36:49 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | |
satanself36
Lincoln, IL
age: 35
| [to adameve] to say that God give them a chance to tell the truth would be say god is not an intelligent god, it would be like playing chess,or spades against yourself.why would god ask questions when god would already know what your answers is going to be before yopu say it?
[queenofhearts61] hit the nail on the head because she knows how to reprogram her way of thinking outside of the box.
illuminary36
[Edited 2/12/2008 12:39:53 PM]
| | 2/12/2008 1:20:16 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | |
queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
| I am not angry at anything. I am very much at peace. I am just debating and backing my arguement. This tread asked does god know all, I say if he does then why bother with this other stuff. Unless he likes to see the world suffering.
I do not see that I have suffered that much, not compared to the suffering that is all over this world.
| | 2/12/2008 2:00:34 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | |
stormbay
Tasmania
Australia
age: 62
| The word "brahman" in Sanskrit originally meant "power" and specifically referred to the power of prayer, or sacrifice to bring about material change in the world, hence the word brahmin is used to describe a priest. Brahman refers to the power that brings about and changes in the physical universe. In the Upanishads, Brahman is not only the principle and creator of all there is, but is also the sum totality of the universe and its phenomena. It is not the god of pure Buddhism, yet there are many Hindu and Hindu Buddhist sects which combine the two. It is sometimes called the breath of the universe, but some Hindu schools of thought class Prakriti as the physical creator whilst they see Brahman as being alone and by himself, without contact with our reality and not interested in the events of happenings of our world, just the actions of the universe. It's important to know the differentiation between beliefs, rather than make unfounded assumptions and adding to confusion. But I understand those who follow fantasy must always resort to fantasy because of a lack of fact.
Queen we must always remember the followers of god will do anything to try and bring you down to their level of ineptitude and that's why they accuse us of the failings they so widely represent.
| | 2/12/2008 2:25:26 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | |
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42 online now!
| God, has NO ego, take all of that away, It means God does nothing for the self. Humans cannot understand that because they ARE ego driven beings.
God is not expecting anything and disruption of suffering for one, would only create suffering somewhere else, without suffering there is no growth
even if GOD is just a proccess, the proccess says that we need problems to evolve.
| | 2/12/2008 2:28:01 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | |
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42 online now!
| Storm,
You said the same thing I said. just in a different words, IF i am in a fantasy land, YOU are there with me.
it is the same thing all of the faiths say, they just use different semantics.
| | 2/12/2008 2:40:16 PM | Does the christian god really know all and see all? | |
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42 online now!
| Queen
I wanted to make sure you didn't think I was attacking you.
I said you are concentrating on the negative, But is what I meant to say was, that you are viewing the suffering as a negative thing. and for the most part, far more good comes from suffering than there is suffering.
when someone else suffers we learn compassion, when we suffer we learn strength, when we suffer and witness suffering it is an opportunity to help others.
AHimsa is the belief that we should avoid doing as much harm as possible, by living consciously and seeing others as imperfect beings on the same spiritual journey but in a different place. and by understanding that all sins come from a sense of fear, pain or ego driven sense of incompletelness, we learn compassion and forgivenss.
even the Holocaust, brought to the Global Consciousness a sense of needing to watch out for each other.
eventually, the people of 9 11 will be looked at the same way, Their deaths and suffering will carry forward an eternity of Good because we will make changes in the world because of them, just like we did after Hitler. World War 2 pulled the people of the world together more than any time ever in the history of the world, we were as united in purpose more at that time, than ever.
I Am sure Storm can fill us in on where, but I am sure that in at least one of the holy textx it talks about finding beauty in ugliness.
This is also Leonardo Davincis goal in some of his work, I can't remember the name Hideous faces, I think he called them, but they are Beautiful.
It is a reprtitive theme in all religions, we just reject it because it hurts.
[Edited 2/12/2008 2:41:39 PM]
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