| 2/17/2008 12:32:56 AM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
shylywilling
Medford, OR
age: 47
| Everything by nature is a continuous cycle of birth and death except that which evolves.
Evolution is life learning to live. Knowledge has the only eternal life. Those that ignore learning resist eternal life. We are each cells of the same body of humanity so when one stubbornly clings to what we knew a couple thousand years ago one is harming all of our ability to achieve eternal life.
To ease the transition I will offer that all life has the will to survive. It could be said that this collective will to survive is the spirit of God. Therefore all life is God. You, I, even a chair has a life and the will to survive. Respect, inspire, nurture, and recycle, all life because you would be helping yourself evolve into eternal life. Hmm, interesting huh?
Life bless us.
Shyly
[Edited 2/17/2008 2:21:43 PM]
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| 2/17/2008 11:40:35 AM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| "Everything by nature is a continuous cycle of birth and death except that which evolves."
How do you support that premise, "-except that which evolves-"?
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| 2/17/2008 7:28:23 PM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
| I think that is an interesting theory. It almost sounds like the Jehovah's Witnesses who say until the last of the 144,000 are chosen, that God has to wait. That last one is holding them up. However do not think that you are the last one. That would be pride to think that you are it. I guess us poor folks could not be one of the chosen. If they too many of the 144,000 living at the same time, it would bust thier theory.
[Edited 2/17/2008 7:28:49 PM]
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| 2/17/2008 8:04:21 PM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
rodlynn
New Britain, CT
age: 45
| Again queen, that is not what the bible teaches, it says that "no body knows the day and hour except the father, GOD, and the remaining ones on earth will be lifted up to heaven in the twinkling of an eye." I am surprised that you don't know these scriptures after studying the bible for five years.
It almost sounds like the Jehovah's Witnesses who say until the last of the 144,000 are chosen, that God has to wait. That last one is holding them up.
This is another lie queen and you know it, I will point them out as I see them ok.
Maybe my efforts will help you to be honest.
[Edited 2/17/2008 8:10:26 PM]
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| 2/17/2008 8:42:39 PM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
| Since you have never been a jehovah's witness and I was for 5 years I am afraid I am going to report you to Dustin if you call me a liar again. In case you do not know it that is against his rules. For someone who has never studied with them [according to you, cause they would not agree to you being on a dating site with those who are not witnesses] what gives you the knowledge to call me a liar? I said I was a witness for 5 years I studied the bible all my life.
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| 2/17/2008 9:11:31 PM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
shylywilling
Medford, OR
age: 47
| Please, be civil you two. We are working/learning here. We welcome opposing views but not adolescent chaos. Rodlynn go find a judge to declare someone God or fork over the ten grand please. Chuckle.
Skunkbreath: Evolution is life learning to live. Knowledge is the only thing that grows/lives without end.
Queen: I don't know didly about Jahova's 144,000 and never heard anything regarding it before.
What I am contending is, that to be content with obsolete knowledge is a waste of potential contribution towards collective knowledge. We must learn to evolve. We must evolve to reach eternal life.
[Edited 2/18/2008 7:54:48 AM]
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| 2/19/2008 7:27:59 PM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
0jason0
Buffalo, NY
age: 22
| Queen,Just because a person study the bible there whole life doesnt mean they know the word. You have to apply bible principles in life in order to grow in knowledge. What you said about the 144,000 was sooooooo incorrect.lol. We all need help to see.
[Edited 2/19/2008 7:30:35 PM]
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| 2/19/2008 10:15:07 PM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
jayem
Hay Springs, NE
age: 64
| Can life, passed on to generation after generation by propagation, be considered eternal life assuming the species does not become extinct?
That is like saying knowledge is eternal life. However, unless knowledge is preserved in some form, either written or retold to the next generation, it too will disappear, become extinct.
I think we error when we assume people living 1000 yrs ago or more, had less knowledge than we. They apparently didn't have the technology that we have today. However, they knew how to build pyramids which baffles me. It is like farmers saying that city people don't know anything (worth knowing.) And, city people saying that about farmers. What is worth knowing to one group of people is often nonsense to another.
I would say that all living things eventually die. Their kind continues to live by propagation. Each generation dies. A chair had life when it was a tree. It lost its life to become a chair. You and I have life, at present, but we die eventually. Does it end there?
There is a difference in saying, "all life is God" and saying, "God is the source of all life." Life is a gift from God, who is Eternal. What baffles me is the origin of death.
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| 2/19/2008 10:35:30 PM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
uhadme
South El Monte, CA
age: 45
| "to everything there is a season"
terrible that things are not happening according to your schedule.
the appointed time is coming.
queen,
if I hate the role and responsibility, yet still think I am the one they're waiting on...
is it stiil pride?
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| 2/19/2008 11:21:42 PM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
shylywilling
Medford, OR
age: 47
| Jayhem: Knowledge provides tech which in turn provides more knowledge. Knowledge is added to by each generation thereby forever growing. We know things that were not known in times past. We know the earth is round, not flat. We know flight and what man's footsteps on the moon look like. We know what collosal sunken ships look like a mile underwater. We know how to travel faster than sound. We know how to clone life/regrow a liver if needed. We know how to split an atom and provide light with the result. You know how to communicate to me via video right here on this technology. You also know that we can build a pyramid today with much more ease than was done in the past. Of course you might also be aware that we have since learned more appropriate uses of the resources than to build huge tombs in a dessert as an attempt to usher in an afterlife.
Are you saying that you choose to remain isolated with obsolete knowledge? That you do not believe or accept these things we have learned? That is hypocrisis isn't it?
Uhadme: Not likely my schedule at all. It is the season for Life to inspire me to inspire others thusly. 
[Edited 2/19/2008 11:39:27 PM]
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| 2/20/2008 7:05:12 AM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
| A lot of people misunderstood me here. I do not believe this crap. I did not say it was in the bible. I said if you get baptized this is one of the things that you are taught. One of the things that only those who have studied with them know. So Dana can call me a liar all he wants but if he was not baptized as jehovah's witness, he would not know all the little dirty secrets they have. For instance, if you know someone JW is breaking the law, you do not go to the police, you go to the elders of the church. And if it is a man in good standing, and he sexually assaulted your son; you are not allowed to go to the police, they protect him.
Now watch Mr. call me names say I am a lair. But I have witness to this event.
[Edited 2/20/2008 7:05:39 AM]
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| 2/20/2008 8:33:42 AM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
dana1956
New Braunfels, TX
age: 51
| queen,
your confusion is beyond your belief system. First of all this is my first post on this thread. Second I saw where rodlyn told you something you said was a lie. First point of confusion... get your ACCUSATIONS staight. Next he told you something you posted was a lie, did not see him call you a liar. But if you say I called you one then maybe you are because I did not.
Moreover I am not a JW, never have been, never will be. Don't care where they get the 144,000. Revelation says in the end 144,000 will be chosen from the 12 tribes, 12,000 each tribe and they will be virgins. Maybe they are still looking for virgins, I don't know, don't care!!!!
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| 2/20/2008 8:34:33 PM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
shylywilling
Medford, OR
age: 47
| I need to politely remind folks to stay on the topic of this thread please.
This thread is not about any traditional religions except that their teachings and rituals are obsolete and of little or no interest to me. If you choose to recite such religions on this thread and do so unrelated to it's topic....Game over. Your choice.
I am sorry but I just really don't enjoy reading through your dirty laundry. Also I will point out that this waring behavior might be the biggest reason I feel these religions are no longer appropriate for humanity to subscribe to. If you really want to sell your beliefs in them then represent them pleasantly.
Thank you very much for the interest and unity in this. Life bless you all.
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| 2/20/2008 10:03:24 PM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
jayem
Hay Springs, NE
age: 64
| shy,
Knowledge builds upon past knowledge and continuously grows. Just as I have grown from a simple child to a more knowledgable adult. I have accumulated knowledge over the years. Yes, I am able to use technology which was not available when I was a child. So the body of human knowledge grows with time.
To consider a body of knowledge as obsolete because of age is to deny one of the building blocks upon which current knowledge rest. In order to build a modern house we need to understand simple math, geometry, algebra and some physics. And we need to build upon basic skills such as sawing a board in twain, measuring its length, and driving the nail with a hammer, operating skill saws and other powered tools. I may know all this, but perhaps I can’t read a blueprint which is another skill. My point is that knowledge builds upon past knowledge. It would do me little good to be able to read the blueprint but not know how to use a saw, hammer, square, level.
Perhaps the trouble with knowledge today is that it has an idea of where it is going but no idea of where it came from.
Could you explain: cells of the same body of humanity?
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| 2/20/2008 11:23:23 PM | Eternal Life. Are you delaying us from achieving it? | |
shylywilling
Medford, OR
age: 47
| Jayhem: to knowledge building on Knowoledge I agree but in the instances of incremental knowledge such as you described,(math, measuring, etc..) I do not consider it obsolete but fundamental. An example of obsolete knowledge is when a belief has been proven useless or incorrect such as the belief the world is flat. Or a more contemporary one might be that we could not reach the moon or even fly. Or that we could not break the sound barrier. Clearly these are examples of what once was thought to be true and now is not. Although these beliefs had their usefulness, even if for nothing else than merely inspiration, they are no longer applicable. We now know differently. To some extent all knowledge is incremental and all knowledge will be obsolete. Life continuously learns to live as a purpose. Knowledge is evolution which is the quest for eternal life. Life without death. The completely evolved.
A cell in the body of humanity. I believe we are each individual cells with our own specific function in a greater body. That of all humanity. All life, on a greater scope.
What harms/lessens you, harms/lessens me. What nurtures/increases you, nurtures/increases me. We are unique and individual as a result of our ancestors, and our own, unique environments and experiences. As a result of this unique exposure, and, life's will to survive, we evolve collectively towards endless life.
One more thing I should add is that I believe Life inspires me to deliver this message of the Golden Egg Be Us Of Quality Hue Men. It is this very same Life that is commonly refered to in the past writings and knowledge of man, as God. Knowing God is to know the spiritual foundation and fundamental description of Life. Not an end to but a beginning of understanding to be built upon.
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