| 3/1/2008 10:57:03 AM | The Church is a scam racket | |
quantum777
Beaverton, OR
age: 41
| Ludlow,
I agree. Luther never intended for 30,000+ denominations and I have no doubt if you showed him the future back then he would not have nailed that piece of paper to the door of that church.
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| 3/1/2008 12:12:04 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
dana1956
New Braunfels, TX
age: 51
| de= do or make the opposite of
nominate=name
denominations are just that- opposite of the truth- truth is unity not division.
Christian is the only right title for a Christian, any variation of what He said falls into denominational sectors.
The church is furtile ground for a scam to arise but not all churches are scams.
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| 3/1/2008 12:24:54 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
quantum777
Beaverton, OR
age: 41
| Dana,
I agree with you that any church is fertile ground for a scam but I believe it to be more that any church that bears a cross is a target for satan and kinda higher on his list to get.
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| 3/1/2008 3:35:29 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
yumyumthemonkey
Dexter, ME
age: 38
|  Denominations are born of the individual who starts them. Thier own interpretation or the bible or a spiritual experience or a thought that seems right to them. I think we can all agree that none of our denominations will ever agree but does it matter? If the Catholics pray to mary or the saints, what is that to me? I like to go right to the source and then I don't have to wait for Peter to say,"Hang on a minute, Yum yum; Gods busy filling out his phone bill-I'll get back to you as soon as I can get a hearing with the big guy." LOL Or if the Lutherines want to not use computers or tvs. It's people who abuse thier use, not the technology itself. But no matter what the differences, as long as an individual believes God is love, and John 3:16 and that he is coming back to make good on that, does it matter about the rest? Let Jesus straighten the less important things out that we have confused. Those things are insignificant. I can't say who is right or who is wrong on those other differences. As for the Pope, God bless him but I will never esteem a man, not even Peter himself if he were here with more attention than I gave my Lord and I know there are catholics who are same minded. The Pope is simply a great man as Peter, but not my God. I don't dislike catholics at all. My mom was raised catholic but I am concerned that these poor priests who are very much human with testosterone are trying to follow a cde of ethics set by man by not being aloud to get married. They aren't the 44,000 or what ever-those are clearly spoken of by paul concerning those who are made that way or by personal choice. It is clearly obvious that if these poor guys want to remain in thier religeon and be there for God, it is imposed upon them thus they go out of thier minds and we have so much negative media concerning child molestation. I do hate child molestation but I believe Moses had a wife and the bible says everyman should have his own. I of course feel badly for the victims but also these priests and that it is causing my brothers in Christ to be ridiculed thus giving the unbelievers a reason not to believe. It's wrong but it is your Popes descision. So therefore I think this catholicism has become more important in itself than our living God and his desire to save those, not give them reason to deny him.....oh, gosh am I going on. I just feel so very sad about this.-ok to lighten up- have a drink of coolaid with me
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| 3/7/2008 1:01:26 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
age: 55
| Jesus founded only one Church, the Catholic Church. All of the others are man-made and false, and do not lead to salvation.
Jesus founding the Catholic Church is not a feeling we Catholics got at a camp meeting or tent revival. Jesus founding the Catholic Church is a historical fact.
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| 3/7/2008 1:08:42 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
travelgnome
Marietta, GA
age: 27
| what a great guy that Jesus was .... didn't found anything the Romans did one of the most ruthless violent
organizations in history which plunged the world into 1,700 years of religious conflict and war. and that also historical fact
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| 3/7/2008 1:38:39 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42
| The church isn't bad, the people using it for their own greed, and needs, and sin, that are scammers, and racketeers, and evil, and devils, you pick the term.
In the end, only those things that are of Gods spirit, which is good will prosper. Sp there is no need to fear.
Since Gods spirit, is the spirit of love, you just have to find the love wherever it is, and that is God, so there is no need to give the church more power than it can take.
and it can take nothing that you don't give freely. because your spirit is the only thing of value, so stay loving, even the church, and understand that people that are doing bad things, are living in Hell, they are miserable, even if they are having a good time, and if they arent, they will be.
You can't worship 2 masters either your master is acquisition, or it is spirit, which is the good in all things. all things good. either it is riches of the earth, or riches in heaven as jesus says. richness in spirit. give freely of spirit and you will be rich in heaven.
Shalom
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| 3/7/2008 1:39:49 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42
| besides, only the catholic church thinks it is the closest thing to God. we all know it is a joke. and have since martin Luther.
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| 3/7/2008 2:49:02 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
garravesh
New Harmony, UT
age: 36
| From my observations it is a way for the powers to be to control the masses.
There is a Great Spirit/Creator But I am pretty sure he/she has had it with organized religions trying to speak for him/her.
As for the catholic church condoning any such abhorrent acts is not true...thats a blanket statement...and very wrong.
Praying and meditating will give ya answers ya seek as well as common frickan sense which so many seem to not have in this day and age.
I was baptized LDS (gasp) and hold no animosity towards religion it does do some good...but on the flip side...it does do some bad....logically speaking would the great Spirit allow his church to fall into the current state..I dunno.. I do know that what other people do is irrelevant to how I live and the self satisfaction I strive to achieve....
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| 3/7/2008 5:43:58 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
quantum777
Beaverton, OR
age: 41
| Curious,
Actually I take great offense to that, The Catholic Church is not a joke. Seems to me Luther is a man who CHANGED the words in the bible. That right there makes him a heratic, blashpemer, etc. He also had the arrogance to believe he could just start his own church. Before that ONLY Jesus started a church, his church. Regardless of whatever his beef with the Pope was he did not have any authority to change doctorine or anything else. Protestantism has some truth but other than that is a half truth at best. Not in a million years will you convince me that having a fractured, splintered Christianity is in anyones best interest.
Just image the massive positive impacts we could finally make in this world if Christianity was one again.
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| 3/7/2008 5:59:44 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
dana1956
New Braunfels, TX
age: 51
| Quantum777,
Still trying to convince people Jesus started the Catholic Church??? A church He did start, one of individual responsibility. No one before God and Jesus. He started the Christian movement, not the Catholic Church. Give up on the Peter thing, It was Pauls teachings that were instrumental on the founding of the Catholic Church and it was about 300 AD. Don't believe even Peter hung around that long. The Catholic Church, Lutheran, Protestant nor any other has anything to do with my salvation and to steer anyone anywhere except towards Jesus would be antichristian.
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| 3/7/2008 6:00:17 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62
| Many do not find the church as detrimental, I for one think it has been one of the most destructive things that man has ever invented, right next to war. Maybe they could be called the same, because the religions have been used as an excuse for war.
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| 3/7/2008 7:09:34 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
stringsvrs
Syracuse, NY
age: 51
| Happy Friday Evening Sisters and Brothers All
Brother Metal, In creating this thread you avow :
metal1970
Towson, MD
age: 38
The Catholic Church's that is supposed to be the closest Earthly being to GOD hides and condones pedifiles..... Tevevangelist rob ppl of thier money and live the high life while thier flock starves.... BURN IN HELL THEY SHALL
The Catholic Church has offered a safe-haven for many people being sought after, for many reasons. The Confessional is also Confidential...no different than attorney/client privilege.
However, I am personally sorry if you were personally molested as a child by one of the priests; You should get professional assistance to work through this traumatic experience.
You see my brother, it is not the church that has offended those who have been victimized; rather, the perpetrator/priest in their humanity. And yes, it is a disgrace for ALL involved in the violation.
Are the Televangelists Catholics? I know All Catholic Diocese' provide food to the underprivileged, feeding more than their flocks/parishioners.
In Peace and Love
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| 3/7/2008 7:13:30 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
stringsvrs
Syracuse, NY
age: 51
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 Brother Death
deathmetalman77
Crescent City, CA
age: 34
It is also a way to get people to conform and be controlled by a "higher power".
You are very correct in this statement. It is a desire for the people to raise their consciousness and live up to their full potential. To be more loving towards themselves and others; To help others in their needs as they would like to be aided. This higher power is within them.
In Peace and Love
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| 3/7/2008 7:19:26 PM | The Church is a scam racket | |
stringsvrs
Syracuse, NY
age: 51
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j_goose
Northfield, OH
age: 36
Check your history, Jesus did not start the Catholic Church. The romans did. Catholisism picked the verse "peter you are my rock, and on this rock I shall build my church." Catholics took this passage and made peter the first post.
I suppose ctholics don't condone pediphilia, but they sure do a good job hiding it and paying out huge sums of hush money.
My Brother, they monies paid out to the victims is not hush money. They attempt to right a wrongful act committed to the victim without the use of Civil actions.
In Peace and Love
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