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2/27/2008 10:52:58 AMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 
fishingmtgirl
Great Falls, MT
age: 39


I know this is off the topic, but it was brought into it after all.
First page stated: Would you date someone, then we have people ranting about the people on it, then we have people ranting about the system.
Now I don't care about that.

What I am ing about is why would you be on a dating site when your husband died 5 weeks ago. Please don't say for support. That is what church, family, friends etc. is for. Your complaining about the money but yet you are using an internet. People have frustrated me here, but this is dang right cold. I have never posted in DH angry, I have in other sites, but not here and several people here know me very well. But this damn well pisses me off



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2/27/2008 6:03:29 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 
markmeunier
Timmins, ON
age: 41


This whole thread pisses me off by trying to infer that one's situation somehow affects the person themselves and colours who they are. I have in my heart only one person whom I would ever marry, never mind date and I could not care less about her financial situation or any other environmental situation that may be existing in her life from the past present or future. No thing, event, or series of circumstances applied to her life make her less than who she is to me, and as the Lord is the final arbitrator of all, what great vanity I would suffer from, to pass any form of judgement. Her spirit and actions guided me to her and I'll be damned if any physical or social distortion as perceived by weak-minded individuals could ever sway my heart from her. Prejudice, segregation, quarantine, provincialism, bias, slant, bigotry,intolerance, discrimination, jaundice, sectarianism, phobia, partisanship, xenophobia, favouritism, zealotry, liberality, insularity, or any other form of narrow-mindedness I have neglected to mention should have absolutely no bearing upon who a person is or their ability to give or receive Love. Just try imagining how you would feel were your own child painted in this light. Then cast your stones.

Mark

2/27/2008 6:32:00 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 
prince25
Auburn, IN
age: 44


Mark,
If this thread makes you mad then WHY did you post or bother to read all the other post in this thread? No one forced you to read or post in this thread,you did this on your own free well.If you DO NOT like this thread then you have a choice of leaving the subject without posting anything on it.I think you are just one of those people just gotta complain about something for nothing.I just ask a simple question to get a simple answer which is either YES or NO.

2/27/2008 6:51:28 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 
markmeunier
Timmins, ON
age: 41


Well prince it appears your cognitive faculties are overworked, as anyone could plainly see the resounding yes in my words if they were to merely open their eyes. It pisses me off to no end to see the gross negligence of others in their replies to situations they they themselves deem unworthy. Many social ills befall persons of all types and that is part of life in our materialistic world, but the sheer audacity of others not enduring the same suffering, to colour the person by their environment amazes me. I have a right to my opinion last I checked and so do you, but please try to see the post for what it is. Honesty and compassion for others.
As for the reason for reading this thread, well I have no reason to watch the news yet I do to witness the grace and horrors of humanity. I am always curious to see what good has managed to survive in our callous world and proud when it beams loud and clear but sadly all too often mortified when I see the candles of hope, faith and charity extinguished by persons too vaunted to remember their innocence or reason.
As for complaining my friend if I truly had a complaint with you, you would doubtlessly have received personal mail, I do not seek to air another's personal issues in a public forum. I am curious how you read my post and assumed it was directed at yourself though. Nowhere in my posting did I refer to you as an individual and if you would do yourself a favour and investigate my own posts throughout these very forums you would see that I have not singled out anyone for anything but praise. Know your subject before you paint it my friend, as we all know what assuming does...
Try removing yourself from the post and read it again and you will see that I am merely expressing a bleak dismay for prejudice in all its lovely forms. If you do not speak up against attrocities you realistically support them through ignorance and passive acceptance. I choose to face the demons of life head-on to provide a healthy example for others who may stumble across these missives now and in the future.

God Bless,

Mark



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2/27/2008 7:23:42 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 

tomijay
Spokane, WA
age: 57


SUCH HATERATION here!

Look, it just depends on which side of the coin you are on.

a) telling people they can't have kids because they are on some welfare program etc violates their civil rights. Like it or not that's the way it goes.

b) folks who smoke while on assistance have to sacrifice something to buy them. I say smoke away - it is still your choice

c) SSI or SSDI means a lot less money than welfare but I have works since I was 16 then put myself thru college and pounded up and down the halls of hospitals for 30 years taking care of all you haters or your families. I BLOODY WELL EARNED this pittance I paid TAXES just like everyone else.

Why are folks so mean to each other? If you truly fall in love so many things are negotitaions and compromises. If you are looking for wealthy people just move along. but to sit here and quote some numbers you pulled off a goverment site does not mean you understand. I would love to work as I did . I loved being an RN, and I even loved taking care of some of you snotty people. I would go back in a New York minute. I am not goin to tell you my problems cause I won't allow you to play doctor. Get more info than see if your attitude softens

Be nicer to folks with less than you ......this is why I laugh like hell when I read a profile claiming to be "Christian" my lil eye y'all are



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2/27/2008 7:36:22 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 
steveredman
Spotswood, NJ
age: 38


As a Director of a mental health program, I assist my clients in obtaining benefits. it takes approximately 6 months to be approved for benefits and most of the time they are denied on the first time. Each time a person with mental illness is denied benefits it can cause them to suffer increased symptoms because of the stress that applying for benefits and completing the paper work can cause. I strongly recommend to my clients that if they have an interest in work than they should at least try and work part time. A person can work and receive SSI or SSD benefits, they just have to be careful that they do not earn to much money.


I am also a severe asthmatic and have two herniated disks in my back. I have also have had to have life saving brain surgery for a cyst. If the day comes that I can not continue to work anymore I hope people do not look down on me.

I will continue to help my clients anyway that I can

2/27/2008 8:16:01 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 

magtag
East York, ON
age: 41


WOW!!! I have a million and one things to say to SEVERAL posters here...but, I bite my tongue. I will answer the original poster's question and save my opinions on the rest of the posts as it will no doubt find me in HOT water!!

I will make one comment though...IF you are seriously disabled and absolutely CANNOT work...that is what any kind of disability income is meant for, and thus, you deserve it...those that think it is some kind of "right of passage", a lifestyle, and some kind of way to "earn" a living...come on!???

So to the OP...The fact that someone is on disability income (I am making an assumption that SSI is that as I am not from the US and am not sure exactly what it means), does not necessarily make me form a negative or positive opinion on that person. I would have to learn to know that person, their circumstances and motivations. Every circumstance is different. If I meet a person who has a disability and cannot work and must turn to assistance, well....that's what it's there for isn't it? And I will NEVER fault someone for it.

On the other hand...if I meet someone who is looking for an easy ride and is lazy and just plainly prefers not to contribute to their own well-being or society on the whole...well, GET LOST!! I have no interest whatsoever in a lazy assed, scammer who thinks they have some kind of "RIGHT" to the rest of the hard working peoples' money just because they can get away with it!!

Integrity people!!! If you don't have it, you're nothing!! (in my humble opinion)

If you are a scammer....that's it, you are a SCAMMER!!! If you are truly disabled, then...man, my heart pours for you...it's not a pleasant life and any kind of disability income is usually not remotely enough.

So, the bottom line answer...YES, I would become involved in a relationship with someone who is on some kind of disability assistance...if the disability were real. No question...did they ask to be disabled???

BUT...if you are a lazy a** scammer...GET LOST! JMHO!

2/27/2008 8:59:17 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 
prince25
Auburn, IN
age: 44


I have decided to post in my profile that I get S.S.I..I have sent emails to women on this website.Some emailed me back but when I requested to put them on my friends list they turned me down.It looks like there is way to many shallowed mind women in this world.They say they are looking for love but I feel they are looking for something else besides love.For the ones that did not bother to respond to my emails or request to be put on my friends list.YOUR LOST AND SOMEONE ELSES GAIN!

2/27/2008 9:05:15 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 
markmeunier
Timmins, ON
age: 41


Prince, I apologize if my reply to you seemed harsh but I really cannot tolerate close-mindedness from the masses. My intitial post was never directed at you or anyone else on any kind of social support. Our inner self is what will direct us to the 'one' not any amount of physical crap. We are born naked and die the same way... no one takes their toys or money with them. Just think if anyone is judging you by your situation then your heart will maintain the energy of Love for the right one and none will have been squandered on a relationship unworthy of the purity of true Love. Good luck in your quest my friend and may God bless you with the vision of loveliness he planned for your life before you were even born.

Mark



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2/27/2008 9:34:10 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 

someone4you0621
New Orleans, LA
age: 55


Prince, I find it very interesting and yet very sad that some who have posted here think that every person that applies for or who is on SSI is not deserving of it. Some work hard their entire adult hood and during this time they incur physical or mental problems. They paid while working into a system that is insurance for them in the future for retirement. This insurance that these people paid for was taken out of their income whether they like it or not. I do think that there are those that abuse the system just like any other, they can abuse for their own good. But, I do fine it so sad that so many can be so judgemental. I hope that they don't end up with the need for help to find out that they cut off their nose to spite their face. JMHO

2/27/2008 9:35:57 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 

drumrman
Belmont, MA
age: 43


S.S.I., is that the show with david caruso?


2/27/2008 10:02:17 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 

katiescarlett72
Dallas, TX
age: 36


Since we're going to bring on the Christian and God references, and imply that He's on the side of wholesale acceptance of any type of behavior in the name of not "judging" people ...

There are over three THOUSAND verses in the Bible that deal with God's charge to all His people to work, to earn, to labor, to serve, and to support, to the best and fullest of their capabilities.

There's roughly zero that talk about sitting on your butt smoking cigarettes with government money.

I've never said anything to the effect of, "people who are truly disabled should not receive benefits or assistance." What I did say, and do still say, is that there are literally hundreds of ways to earn money that can accommodate the *majority* of the disabilities that now qualify for SSI.

Of course banning people from having children is impossible. I never said that anyone *should* be banned from having them. I was simply expressing my opinion on the subject of people having them when they are (apparently) so severely disabled that they are unable to hold gainful employment. Seems odd to me.

And yeah, I resent people who are not supporting themselves using money provided by taxes to buy cigarettes instead of necessities. Can I stop it? No. Can I think, and say, that it's irresponsible and unethical? Yep. Especially since - as I said before - it's also going to be tax dollars that end up paying for their lung cancer, or emphysema, or heart disease.

I'm all for compassion, but you have to couple it with reality and responsibility. Otherwise, you might as well just set the national treasury on fire and have done with it.



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2/28/2008 8:41:55 AMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 

teaurtei
Anderson, IN
age: 41


I have decided to post in my profile that I get S.S.I..I have sent emails to women on this website.Some emailed me back but when I requested to put them on my friends list they turned me down.It looks like there is way to many shallowed mind women in this world.They say they are looking for love but I feel they are looking for something else besides love.For the ones that did not bother to respond to my emails or request to be put on my friends list.YOUR LOST AND SOMEONE ELSES GAIN!

This may be off topic, but is in response to the OP. I accepted his friend request, but was subsequently removed or he removed himself without more than just initial contact. I do understand how feelings may be hurt by the course this thread has taken and I understand why this may have taken place, but if I have done something to upset you or cause you discomfort I would like to apologize.

2/28/2008 8:50:09 AMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 

tomijay
Spokane, WA
age: 57


Gawd forbid Miss KatieScarlett the day some drunk driver hits you and you are laying in some rehab center tryin to learn to walk and use your hands; the final determination has been made; SSDI.

Now let's say for the sake of argument they bestow upon you the richly sum of $600.
You'll get food stamps and medical care. Kewlio. Enjoy your 160 bucks for groceries.

You have rent, transportation, ANY thing such as TP, menstrual items, toothpaste, shampoo, laundry detergent. dishsoap etc you have to pay for.

If you can have a pet all the care costs are yours.

Forget going to the movies, havin pizza with friends or even buyin presents for family.

You also slowly lose your dignity as your friends move on ( might be cause you are hittin them up too much for pizza money -gasp)

Your life becomes one of lean times and it isn't gonna change soon.

All I am asking is that you tone down the Hateration gal .........oh and quite flip flopping on your answers.

2/28/2008 3:20:31 PMRelationship with a person on S.S.I.? 

katiescarlett72
Dallas, TX
age: 36


I'm not hating. You can inaccurately characterize my posts as "bashing" or "hating" or "prejudice" or whatever other inflammatory word you want, but it's still crap. As I said before, trying to discredit someone's opinion by painting them with the old Meanie Brush is really old, and really transparent. It's also kind of a last resort when you can't figure out how to factually disagree with what they've said.

As to the above scenario -

A. Yet again, let me say - since you apparently didn't get it the first three or four times I said it - I've never said that people who are truly disabled should not receive benefits.

B. Your scenario is the reason why I carry disability insurance.


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