| 3/6/2008 4:50:51 PM | Is china a super power. | | 
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42
| yes, Of course they are a " super Power" Our economy is dependent on theirs, and their on our, like the entire worlds economies are dependent on each other, so what?
what difference does it make? they have always had a bigger army than ours. They arent the one that runs around starting wars. Have they ever nuked anyone? and who exactly is the only country TO have nuked anyone?
They , China and Europe, exist to balance us, as long as we are balanced we are o.k.,
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, no exceptions to the rule, so WHY would America want to be the worlds power again?
| | 3/6/2008 7:22:08 PM | Is china a super power. | | explorer3
Warminster, PA
age: 34
| Spaceman.I agree that people should be concerned when a nuclear power is spending money on their weapons program.
But id have to ask the same question as ocean when it comes to china.China like every other country has had its bad moments.But china hasnt to my knowledge given us any reason to believe that they would attack the u.s. or any other nation.
I think curiousone made some good points about the other countries besides china.Right now it seems like china is one of the least violent nations.When it comes to wars.
I also think that its true there has to be a balance of power.Because like she said a lot of times power does corrupt.
So like i said id have to ask the same question as ocean.
| | 3/6/2008 7:35:55 PM | Is china a super power. | | explorer3
Warminster, PA
age: 34
| "companies in china and other countries have been buying US companies at a rate that is not yet fully realized by the public"
Oceans.I thought what you said about china and brazil was interesting im going to see if i can find some articles about that.
| | 3/6/2008 7:38:32 PM | Is china a super power. | | 
knightnyte2
Spring, TX
age: 55
| spaceman, you hinted around and thanks for now specifying what you wished to discuss. Most of us read that report a while ago. what you say is true, even more to the point, did you know china is building a super port just south of san diego, CA so they will not have to use our ports? in addition to that, the security will not be as high in mexico as here. where do you think NAFTA came from? not only the nafta, but new railroads are being built from mexico into san diego to ship this stuff into the US at reduced rates of import taxes.
all the while, our congress condemns them outright for civil rights violations, yet we allow them to do stuff like above.
I wish to personally thank you for being a canadian and up on our politics though. not many are as concerned. wanna immigrate here legally??
peace... don't be hatin'
| | 3/6/2008 7:48:47 PM | Is china a super power. | | 
1pinkstar
Omaha, NE
age: 54
| No. Not at all. Periodically there are alarms about some foreign technological and economic menace. It was the Soviets in the 1950s and early 1960s, the Germans and the Japanese in the 1970s and 1980s, and now it's the Chinese and the Indians.
America's economic strengths lie in qualities that are hard to distill into simple statistics. We've maintained beliefs and practices that compensate for our weaknesses, including ambitiousness, openness to change (even unpleasant change), competition, hard work and a willingness to take and reward risks.
The trade imbalance with China may have a destabilizing effect on world economics, but the recent fixation on foreign economic strength relies upon the false hysteria.
Both China and India are still desperately poor countries. Of the total of 2.3 billion people in these two countries, nearly 1.5 billion earn less than US$2 a day, (World Bank calculations.)
The total number of workers in all possible forms of IT-related jobs in India comes to less than a million workers – one-quarter of 1% of the Indian labor force. For all its Nobel Prizes and brilliant scholars and professionals, India is the largest single-country contributor to the pool of illiterate people in the world. Lifting them out of poverty and dead-end menial jobs will remain a huge task for decades to come.
There are many severe pitfalls and roadblocks which China and India have to overcome in the near future, before they can become significant players in the international economic scene on a sustained basis.
| | 3/6/2008 7:59:20 PM | Is china a super power. | | terentius
Apex, NC
age: 53
| In a military sense, the only superpower now is the United States. The US military budget is now larger than the military budgets of the entire rest of the world combined, and that doesn't even count the cost of the wars. Well, you can see where it gets us: big deficits, a collapsing dollar, and endless quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan. Moral: Being a military superpower is way overrated. Countries like Norway and Canada who have no such grand military ambitions are doing much better than we are.
In economic terms, China is the 3rd largest economy in the world, if you count the European Community as one economy. If only single nations are counted, then China is 2nd, after the US. The standard of living of the average Chinese citizen has been rising rapidly, while American living standards have risen very little over the past 30 years. However, per capita, China is still much poorer than the US. The Chinese economy has several very big problems. First, they have an enormous trade imbalance with the US which ties them to us, as several people have pointed out. That means they now hold about a trillion US dollars (yes, really) but the value of those dollars is dropping like a rock. Second, the Chinese environment is on the edge of collapse. The air is foul, with hundreds of thousands dying from air pollution each year. They are also running out of water. For some parts of the year there's nothing in the Yellow River but sand.
| | 3/6/2008 8:10:45 PM | Is china a super power. | |
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42
| China is buying our banks, and we are borrowing money from them as well, we are funding both sides of this war, we pay the Opec nations for oil that they use to fight us.
China is putting their money into Africa, but don't worry Africa doesn't have any reason to hate us, so we should be ok, right?
We pay Saudi Arabia, a Shia Muslim Sharia Law state, Wahabbi, which is the Holy roller of Islam, they are our equivalent of the snake people, and THEY attacked US, every one of the hijackers I believe was saudi, but they are friends of Bush' they hold hands even, and he calls him His royal Highness ( I swear to god)
WE also pay israel, why? because we didn't want them here, after world war 2, our economy was in toilet as was the rest of the worlds, and we jumped at the assinine zionist argument that Israel is ordained to the Jews By ( get this ) The Jewish God, and the Jewish holy Bible, well golly gee, what a shock. so now because we felt so bad for the jews in the concentration camps we are funding concentration camps in Gaza, the same jews have barricaded the Palestiniansin to gaza without electricity, food , water, gas, midicine, and they are bombing them, like shooting fish in a barrell, and when they turn to Egypt for help, they bomb egypt, and we suck their asses some more, they whine and cry about how they are getting killed, and all the while they are killing 8 times more people than they have being killed, and they act indignant when we reprimand them, They couldn't even stop for their beloved Condi.
You should stop worrying about China, and start worrying about US.
| | 3/6/2008 8:18:18 PM | Is china a super power. | |
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42
| Alot of the problem with China is that they have gained so much so fast they have to readapt to more fuel effective cars, and transportation, like us they have too much room almost to have effective public transport,
WE have sold alot of Old factory equipment that wasn't good eough for us, and because they don't have the regulation they have no environmental laws other than the Kyoto which we don't even have so once again I say, pay attention to us not them,
but China has to come to a balance between social and capital istic suystems, as long as there are sick, old, retarded, stupid, people, people that have disabilities, we need a social system, and we need a public system to create competition, and to ensure that the quality of the public health system stays high as well.
they are the perfect pair, give and take. the rich people have been convincing us that they will take care of us.
for a very long time they have practiced Nobless Oblige, but they have become so greedy again, that they need to relearn the lesson. This time I think we will get it balanced and save the planet just in time.
| | 3/6/2008 8:35:49 PM | Is china a super power. | |
1pinkstar
Omaha, NE
age: 54
| China's ability to become a real superpower is restricted by the following three factors:
First, China's territory is not yet unified. The Taiwan issue has long been a major concern for the Chinese Communist Party. If this issue is handled unwisely it could lead to foreign intervention. Besides, there are many other hidden troubles in China's border areas.
Secondly, as the domestic economy develops serious social problems have appeared, owing to the lack of protections provided by a democratic system. These include corruption, conflicts between the government and citizens and a huge gap between rich and poor. Pressure from the huge numbers of poor people could lead to social breakdown at any time.
Thirdly, international society and surrounding countries have always been cautious and suspicious of Red China. Although China today enjoys rapid growth in its economy, foreign trade, foreign investment and official foreign reserves, its per capita income ranks 110th in the world.
| | 3/7/2008 2:35:20 PM | Is china a super power. | | explorer3
Warminster, PA
age: 34
| China's ability to become a real superpower is restricted by the following three factors:
pinkstar.I think you made a lot of good points about the challenges that the chinese government faces.
Its not so surprising that the chinese has all these problems considering the fact that there population is so big.It would be hard for any government to manage over 1.3billion people.
All things considered they have overcome a lot of obsacles so far.I wouldnt be surprised if they are able to overcome many of the obsticles they have right now.
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| | 3/7/2008 2:41:04 PM | Is china a super power. | | explorer3
Warminster, PA
age: 34
| Ive noticed that there are a lot of people including the chinese who are moving to other countries.Including the U.S.
Many of these people make a lot more money in the new countries send there money home to help there families.
I wouldnt be surprised if we see a lot more of that in the future especially from china since their population is so big.
I think Its nice that some of the rich countries allows people from the poorer countries to come over and help there families.
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| | 3/7/2008 3:39:42 PM | Is china a super power. | |
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42
| The problems that China has are NOT social problems, as Pink suggested, they are a matter of regulatory problems which are structural, not social
education and healthcare they have, WE DONT.
WE have regulation, while they were focusing on the "social" issues we were worrying about trade issues, IT is time to switch information, we need a public and private system, funny how people point to Russdia as a failure of Socialism, and China owns us now. they are buying our banks, and buisnesses. they are getting balanced, we are not.
AS always we look to others to make us feel better about ourselves, huh Pink?
| | 3/9/2008 8:33:48 AM | Is china a super power. | | wildgypsy
Bellevue, WA
age: 89
| Well, after reading an article this morning about how their muslims are threatening terrorist attacks at the Olympic games, let's just hope they at least have the power to protect the athletes.
| | 3/12/2008 3:57:26 PM | Is china a super power. | | 
spacemanspiff
London, ON
age: 47 online now!
| I found this article today that I now present to you in regards to China from a very well respected foreign analyst/correspondent that I like to check out from time to time. I was surprised though that he made no mention of the H.R. 3100 EASA bill that failed to pass in congress in 2005.
I thank you.
March 12, 2008
A NEW `RED SCARE’ FROM WASHINGTON
WASHINGTON: For old timers like me who miss the Cold War, Washington’s increasingly heated rhetoric over China and various other malefactors brought back piquant memories of the bad old days.
The US Department of Defense warned last week, `China threatens the stability of Asia.’ Defense Secretary Robert Gates criticized the 17.6% increase in China’s 2008 military budget ads dangerous and provocative.
China’s official military budget is $58.8 billion, but the real figure is estimated at around $110 billion. Beijing’s claims its hike in defense spending were solely to boost military pay were believed by no one. Even so, Washington’s warning was pretty rich coming from the sole superpower that spends ten times more on its military than China – a nation with four times the US population.
Secretary Robert Gates unblushingly accused China of `lack of transparency’ in concealing major defense programs. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Some 25-30% of the Pentagon’s trillion-dollar budget is believed to be hidden in secret `black’ projects, or concealed in other government departments. The US intelligence community’s budget alone is 40% of China’s total military and intelligence spending.
Washington’s constant warnings about Cuba, Syria, Iran, Venezuela and North Korea make it look like a spinster terrified by a mouse. These nation’s combined military sending is a paltry $10 billion. The US and its closest allies account for two thirds of the world’s military spending. Trying to keep up militarily with the west drove the old Soviet Union to bankruptcy.
The US spends more on wars in Afghanistan and Iraq than Russia and China do on defense.
Now, the Bush Administration is trying a re-run of Reagan years by goading Russia into more military spending to justify continued high US military spending, which doubled since late 2001. The relentless expansion of NATO to Russia’s borders, Bush’s proposed anti-missile system in Eastern Europe, and increased US military operations or political machinations around Russia, notably in the Caucasus and Central Asia, have infuriated and alarmed the Kremlin.
Without the `threat’ from China and Russia, how will the Pentagon justify new generation of super expensive F-22 and F-35 fighters it wants, new tankers, heavy bombers, submarines, carriers and other surface warships?
You don’t need any such fancy hardware to fight rag-tag jihadis armed with rifles and home-made bombs.
But there’s a deeper issue with China. The US has yet to come to terms with China’s rise as a major modern military power. The US Navy has dominated South Asia’s littoral since 1944. By 2015-17, perhaps sooner, China will inevitably become the dominant East Asian power. This means US geopolitical influence will be pushed back from the Asian mainland into the Pacific.
This process will be gradual but inevitable. Today, China has only around 350 modern warplanes, a weak navy, and little ability to project power more than 160kms from its coasts. Beijing is following the late, great Deng Xiaoping’s advice to build military power slowly as China’s economy grows.
China is rapidly developing the capability to conquer Taiwan and neutralize US Navy task forces coming to its rescue by barrages of air and sea-launched anti-ship missiles, and electronic warfare. China also threatens to attack America’s Achilles Heel: vulnerable space-based communications and targeting satellites upon which US forces have become dangerously dependant.
But Taiwan aside, military tensions between the US and China are totally avoidable – unless stoked by neocon Republicans longing for war with China. What is even more bizarre, while the Pentagon fulminates against the dangers of China, Iran, etc., the US is helping build the military power of a huge nation that one day could become a serious strategic rival to the United States - India.
The Bush Administration is striving to conclude a deal to supply Delhi nuclear fuel, technology, and billions of high-tech weapons. Meanwhile, India is developing nuclear armed intercontinental ballistic missiles and sea launched strategic missiles that might one day pose a challenge to the United States.
Why, no one in Washington is asking, does India need 7,000-mile range ICBM’s, nuclear-powered missile submarines and powerful anti-ship missiles? Its current medium-range missiles cover all China and large parts of Russia – a close ally of India. Japan will shortly be in range of India’s new generation of more powerful, intermediate range Agni-III ballistic missiles.
India ICBM’s would only be needed to reach Europe, North America or Australia. India has no conceivable conflicts with the EU or Australia and is thus unlikely to target Paris, London or Perth. But India will one day compete heavily with the US for Mideast oil, other resources, and regional influence in the Gulf, Arabian Sea and even East Africa.
China will inevitably join this strategic, three-way rivalry as Beijing and Delhi’s economies and ambitions grow, as I predicted in my book, `War at the Top of the World.’ By aiding India to develop strategic nuclear weapons programs, the US will needlessly antagonize China.
The astoundingly incompetent Bush Administration is thus seeding future conflict in Asia. But that’s tomorrow. Today, by creating a monstrous debt and loan credit bubble, wildly printing money, and recklessly spending, the Bush White House is spreading dangerous inflationary forces throughout the world economy. That’s the real danger to everyone, not China’s moderate-sized defense budget.
Copyright Eric S. Margolis 2008
Sorry for the delay in posting this column. We had technical difficulties.
Posted by Eric Margolis at 10:17 AM | Comments (4)
| | 3/12/2008 5:49:35 PM | Is china a super power. | | explorer3
Warminster, PA
age: 34
| Spaceman.Thanks for posting that column.
From what the column says it seems that china will be a super power but looking at all the facts i dont think there ever going to be as powerful as the U.S..Still they will have a lot of influence in the world.
The article also talked about the potential of a nuclear arms race between india and china.I havent heard anything on the news about that but that would definitly be a scary thought.
it also talked about some other countries.From what it sounds like were
all going trouble if all these countries start using all these weapons that there making.
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