| 3/4/2008 9:37:36 AM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | | 
sassy_lassy
Kingston, TN
age: 66
| In his memoir, Obama writes of one of the watershed moments of his racial awareness -- time and again in remarkable detail. It is a story about a Life magazine article that influenced him. The report was about a black man who tried to bleach his skin white. When Obama was told no such article could be found in Life, he says "it might have been Ebony.
He is 9 years old, living in Indonesia, where he and his mother moved with her new husband, Lolo Soetoro, a few years earlier. One day while visiting his mother, who was working at the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, Obama passed time by looking through several issues of Life magazine. He came across an article that he later would describe as feeling like an "ambush attack."
The article included photos of a black man who had destroyed his skin with powerful chemical lighteners that promised to make him white. Instead, the chemicals had peeled off much of his skin, leaving him sad and scarred, Obama recalled.
"I imagine other black children, then and now, undergoing similar moments of revelation," Obama wrote of the magazine photos in "Dreams."
Yet no such photo exists, according to historians at the magazine. No such photos, no such article. When asked about the discrepancy, Obama said in a recent interview, "It might have been an Ebony or it might have been ... who knows what it was?" (At the request of the Tribune, archivists at Ebony searched their catalogue of past articles, none of which matched what Obama recalled.)
In fact, it is surprising, based on interviews with more than two dozen people who knew Obama during his nearly four years in Indonesia, that it would take a photograph in a magazine to make him conscious of the fact that some people might treat him differently in part because of the color of his skin.
2004
In Obama's famous DNC Convention speech, Obama says, "My father was a foreign student, born and raised in a small village in Kenya. He grew up herding goats, went to school in a tin-roof shack. His father -- my grandfather -- was a cook, a domestic servant to the British."
Kezia, Obama Sr.'s first wife tells a story that puts Obama's account to lie.
Kezia said: In 1955 Obama Sr. was 18 and working in an office in Nairobi, when he took Kezia from her family at the age of 16. Her father was furious.
"He did not like Obama. My father and brothers came to Nairobi to bring me back. They said I had to go back to school.
"When I wouldn't, they said they would never speak to me again.
"Barack was also worried about what his father would think because I was so young, but he gave us his approval. Obama's father (often described as poor) sent my mother and father 14 cows for my dowry.
Just how can a cook, a domestic servant to the British, provide a dowry of 14 cattle for Senior's first wife? Also, Obama's father had been working in a Nairobi office since the age 16, not herding goats.
As an aside, can you imagine if a Republican was running for president and it came out that his father had bought his first wife for 14 cows???!!!Just wow!!
2004 Responding to questions about his intent to serve out the six year senate term, Obama says, in this video, (link removed), that he will not run for the presidency in four years.
Notice: The video has disappeared. Using WayBackMachine, I found two links -- both played empty videos -- a lot of stuff is being scrubbed from the web.
Here is what he said in the video:
"I think I've been very clear. Ah-ah-mumble-mumble, there's a presidential election in four years. I'm not running for president in four years."
Here is a backup story -- during a meeting with reporters at his Illinois campaign headquarters after his election to the U.S. Senate, he ridiculed as "a silly question" whether he would run for president or vice president before his term ends in 2011. "I’ve never worked in Washington," he said. "I can unequivocally say I will not be running for national office in four years, and my entire focus is making sure that I’m the best possible senator on behalf of the people of Illinois."
2006 On the January 22nd edition of "Meet the Press," Tim Russert and Obama had the following exchange:
Russert: "When we talked back in November of '04 after your election, I said, 'There's been enormous speculation about your political future. Will you serve your six-year term as United States senator from Illinois?'"
Obama: "I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed."
Russert: "So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?"
Obama: "I will not."
2007 As another example, consider Obama's stirring tale for the Selma audience about how he had been conceived by his parents, Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham, because they had been inspired by the fervor following the "Bloody Sunday" voting rights demonstration that was commemorated March 4. "There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama," he said, "because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama"
| | 3/4/2008 9:44:34 AM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | |
sassy_lassy
Kingston, TN
age: 66
| Part 2
Obama was born in 1961, and the Selma march occurred four years later, in 1965. The New York Times reported that when the senator was asked about the discrepancy later that day, he clarified: "I meant the whole civil rights movement."
2007 Obama went on to tell his audience that the Kennedys -- Jack and Bobby -- decided to do an airlift. They would bring some young Africans over so that they could be educated and learn all about America. His grandfather heard that call and sent his son, Barack Obama, Sr., to America.
The problem with that scenario is that, having been born in August 1961, the future senator was not conceived until sometime in November 1960. So, if his African grandfather heard words that "sent a shout across oceans," inspiring him to send his goat-herder son to America, it was not Democrat Jack Kennedy he heard, or his brother Bobby, it was Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Actually, Senior was awarded an American sponsored scholarship in economics to the University of Hawaii at Manoa. He was selected by a former Kenyan cabinet minister, the late Tom Mboya, who was earmarked as the successor to Jomo Kenyatta, Kenya's first prime minister.
The presumption was that Senior would return to Africa and use his "Western-honed skills in a new Kenya."
2007 On January 24, the Obama campaign released a statement, saying, "To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago.
On March 14th, in a statement to The Times, the Obama campaign offered this statement to correct their previous statement, that appears to be a bold-faced lie:
"Obama has never been a practicing Muslim. The statement added that as a child, Obama had spent time in the neighborhood's Islamic center."
And, the original statement began, "To be clear ..."
So, in three months, Barrack's campaign has gone from describing the U.S. presidential hopeful as never having been a Muslim and never having been raised as a Muslim to now never having been a practicing Muslim.
What's with the semantics? Statements from Obama's campaign appear to have evolved, to say the least.
2007 On March 25th, the Chicago Tribune reports that an extensive search found no basis for an episode Obama recounts about a picture he ran across in Life magazine of a "black man who had tried to peel off his skin" in a failed effort to use chemicals to lighten it. Obama writes that "seeing that article was violent for me, an ambush attack."
The Tribune continued: "Yet no such Life issue exists, according to historians at the magazine. No such photos, no such article. When asked about the discrepancy, Obama said in a recent interview, "It might have been an Ebony or it might have been ... who knows what it was?"
At the request of the Tribune, archivists at Ebony searched their catalogue of past articles, none of which matched what Obama recalled."
2007 On March 27th, Obama, tells the crowd at fundraiser , "I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution."
For the record, Obama is a "Senior Lecturer (on leave of absence)" at the University of Chicago Law School. He has taught Constitutional Law III: Equal Protection and Substantive Due Process, Current Issues in Racism & the Law, and Voting Rights & the Democratic Process.
2007 On May 8th, Obama, caught up in the fervor of a campaign speech Tuesday, drastically overstated the Kansas tornadoes death toll, saying 10,000 had died.
"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed," the Democratic presidential candidate said in a speech to 500 people packed into a sweltering Richmond art studio for a fundraiser.
The death toll was 12.
2007 On May 10th, Obama botched his facts in a speech criticizing the U.S. auto industry for "investing in bigger and faster cars while foreign competitors invested in more fuel-efficient technology."
Obama stated that "while our fuel standards haven't moved from 27.5 miles per gallon in two decades, both China and Japan have surpassed us, with Japanese cars now getting an average of 45 miles to the gallon." But Toyota, which should know, has responded, "No carmaker gets 45 mpg; ours is closer to 30 mpg."
Well, we're glad to see Obama's shifting the blame from the consumer to the automakers. That must explain why the Illinois Senator and Presidential candidate owns a HEMI-powered V8 Chrysler 300C.
Obviously it's Chrysler's fault Obama bought a big 5.7-liter engine from them -- he just didn't have a choice.
2007 During his 12 years in politics, Sen. Barack Obama has received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted businessman, Tony Rezko and his associates, than he has publicly acknowledged, the Chicago Sun-Times has found.
Seven months ago, Obama told the Sun-Times his "best estimate" was that Rezko raised "between $50,000 and $60,000" during Obama's political career.
However, Obama has collected at least $168,308 from Rezko and his circle. Additionally, Obama also has taken in an unknown amount of money from people who attended fund-raising events hosted by Rezko since the mid-1990s.
Everything you ever wanted to know about Obama and Rezko.
2007 Responding to criticism of his disrespect of the flag of the United States during the National Anthem, Obama defended himself by saying "My grandfather taught me how to say the Pledge of Allegiance when I was 2."
He didn't even remember what he was doing on September 17th, when Obama, Hillary and Bill Richardson attended the Steak Fry of Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) in Indianola, IA.
How can he possibly remember what happened when he was two years old?
2007 On October 6th, Obama accused his fellow American citizens of the indiscriminate murder of Iraqi civilians, saying, "And these private (Blackwater USA) contractors, they go out and they're spraying bullets and hitting civilians and that makes it more dangerous for our troops."
Obama lies with the same ease as the Clintons and proves that he will say anything to win the nomination and election.
2007 Last fall during a nationally televised presidential debate, Obama hesitantly raised his hand and joined with most of his Democratic rivals to declare that he opposed decriminalizing marijuana. (first video).
But as a candidate for the U.S. Senate four years ago, Mr. Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use or possession, according to a videotape of a little noticed debate that was obtained by The Washington Times.
"I think we need to rethink and decriminalize our marijuana laws," Mr. Obama told an audience during a debate at Northwestern University in 2004. "But I'm not somebody who believes in legalization of marijuana." (second video).
Asked about the two different answers, Mr. Obama's presidential campaign said he in fact has "always" supported decriminalizing marijuana as he answered in 2004, meaning the candidate mistakenly raised his hand during the presidential debate last fall.
2007 On the 1st of December, Obama said, "I'm not running because I'm trying to fulfill some long-held plan."
| | 3/4/2008 9:45:03 AM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | |
sassy_lassy
Kingston, TN
age: 66
| Part 3
Oh, really?
Iis Darmawan, 63, Obama's teacher in 1970, remembers him as an exceptionally tall and curly haired child who quickly picked up the local language and had sharp math skills. "He wrote an essay titled, 'I Want To Become President,'" the teacher said.
In 1971, Obama's sister Maya, has also said, "There was always a joke between my mom and Barack that he would be the first black president."
In 1991, David B. Wilkins , the Kirkland and Ellis professor of law, said he advised Obama to become a Supreme Court Clerk. "Obama recognized the honor in pursuing that post," Wilkins said, but quickly added that he wasn’t interested.
“He said that he wanted to write a book about his life and his father, go back to Chicago, get back into the community, and run for office there. He knew exactly what he wanted and went about getting it done,” Wilkins said.
In 1992, Obama's brother-in-law, Craig Robinson pulled him aside and asked about his plans. "He said, 'I think I’d like to teach at some point in time, and maybe run for public office,'" recalls Robinson, who assumed Senator Obama meant he’d like to run for city alderman. "He said no -- at some point he’d like to run for the U.S. Senate. And then he said, 'Possibly even run for President at some point.' And I was like, 'Okay, but don’t say that to my Aunt Gracie.' I was protecting him from saying something that might embarrass him."
In 1993, Obama began teaching at the University of Chicago Law School, where he declined to pursue a tenure-track post, hoping to save time for politics.
The one thread, that remains consistent, throughout Obama's life, is his teacher's, mentor's and friend's recollection of Obama's single-minded pursuit of high political office.
2007 On December 22nd, in a small-town café in Pleasantville, Omaha, Obama was asked a question that typically only circulates on the Internet.
As he sat down to have a slice of pie with a small group of potential voters and an elderly woman asked him about being Muslim.
"I've always been a Christian," the Illinois Democrat responded. "I have never practiced [Islam]."
Note: The newspaper editors had to add the word, "Islam."
In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran. He was enrolled in two Jakarta schools as a Muslim. His teacher Tine Hahiyary said that she remembered that he had studied "mengaji" (recitation of the Quran)." Classmate Rony Amiris described Obama as being a very devout Muslim, saying, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam." Another classmate, Emirsyah Satar, now the CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, "He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a 'sarong.'" (See Obama's Education.)
Yet, on his official campaign website, Obama has posted this statement, "Barack has never been a Muslim or practiced any other faith besides Christianity."
Obama's grandfather was a Muslim. Obama's father was a Muslim. Obama's stepfather was a Muslim. His African relatives are Muslims. What was he for the 27 years before his alleged conversion if he wasn't a Muslim?
If Obama has always been a Christian, why was he enrolled in two Jakarta schools as a Muslim, and why did he study the Quran?
And note his Clintonesque defense, "I have never practiced."
This is Obama's biggest problem -- his dissimulation.
Saying, "I've always been a Christian," is a bold-faced lie.
2008 On January 22nd, the Hillary Clinton Campaign releases a video that proves that Obama lied about his position on "single-payer healthcare."
The video compares statements Obama made during the January 21st Democratic debate with those he made to an AFL-CIO conference in June 2003 while campaigning for the Senate. Contradicting what Obama said at the debate, the old footage shows the senator saying, "I happen to be a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare coverage. That’s what I’d like to see."
At the debate, Obama stated: “I never said that we should try to go ahead and get single-payer (healthcare)."
Single-payer healthcare is an euphemism for socialized medicine.
2008 February -- As Sen. McCain has pointed out, Obama promised to use public funding in the general election if the Republican candidate would do so also. Well, McCain has agreed to it, but now Obama wants to back out of the deal. After all, when he made the promise, he didn't have a chance of raising more than the public's $85 million stipend. But now that he can raise $300 million, well, what's a little untruth between the waited-for one and his people? Yes, he can.
2008 On February 29th, the Obama campaign told Canadian Television (CTV) that no message was passed to the Canadian government suggesting that Obama does not mean what he says about opting out of NAFTA if it is not renegotiated.
However, the Obama camp did not respond to repeated questions from CTV on reports that a conversation on this matter was held between Obama’s senior economic adviser, Austan Goolsbee, and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.
Earlier Thursday, the Obama campaign insisted that no conversations have taken place with any of its senior ranks and representatives of the Canadian government on the NAFTA issue. On Thursday night, CTV spoke with Goolsbee, but he refused to say whether he had such a conversation with the Canadian government office in Chicago. He also said he has been told to direct any questions to the campaign headquarters.
CTV didn’t stop there. They announced that their sources, at the highest levels of the Canadian government," reconfirmed the story to CTV and one of their primary sources provided a timeline of the discussion to CTV.
| | 3/4/2008 10:40:55 AM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | | 
knightnyte2
Spring, TX
age: 55
| sassy, i'm sure the same thing happens with all the politicians, not just obama. I do know his church's website in chicago changed in the past month. what is there now, isnt what was posted 1-2 months ago.
as the world becomes more tuned to each event and the internet being the freeway of information, we certainly can be more aware of things going on. it seems anyone running for public office can deny most anything, and hide the facts as they become known. Being a Christian, I would not like seeing a muslim in our white house. Race or gender makes little difference to me, as long as they do what they say, and say what they do.
peace... don't be hatin'
| | 3/4/2008 1:43:11 PM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | |
sassy_lassy
Kingston, TN
age: 66
| HI KNight
I did not intend this thread to be a hate one, I try not to do that, I just ran across this and thought I would post ,simply because I wasn't aware of some of this. I have read alot from that site and it has not changed my opinion of obama, I do not want him leading our country, not about race or beliefs, just common sense. ( my opinion)
| | 3/4/2008 2:05:24 PM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | | 
oceans5555
Chevy Chase, MD
age: 64
| Hi, Sassy,
Did you double-check this yourself?
It has been pretty much repudiated. See Snopes, for example.
I certainly wouldn't mind a Muslim becoming president, if he/she were smart, learning, educated and could assemble a good team. Of course, I wouldn't mind a woman either, or someone other than white.
I've endured eight years of 'someone who looks like me' -- and I say thanks but no thanks to another disaster.
Oceans
| | 3/4/2008 3:25:44 PM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | |
sassy_lassy
Kingston, TN
age: 66
| oceans, I agree with you, it is the person ,not color or religous beleifs, I have posted only about Obama because I just don't believe in him as a leader, neither do I believe in anyone else running for President now.
| | 3/4/2008 5:22:49 PM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | | 
chinatown_girl
Oyster Bay, NY
age: 19
| Warning over illegal skin bleach
Doctors have issued a warning over the dangers of illegal skin-lightening creams, after a woman developed a hormone disorder from using them.
The patient, aged 28, put on almost two stone (13kg) in three years, could not conceive and had severe stretch marks.
In the Lancet, medics from west London's Hammersmith Hospital said people were unaware they were harmful.
Dermatologists said such extreme reactions were rare, but minor skin effects were more common.
Illegal skin-lightening creams are used by some black people and, to a lesser extent, some Asian people.
They can cause harm in two ways.
The creams usually contain hydroxyquinone, a skin-bleaching chemical, as well as high doses of steroids.
The use of hydroxyquinone is banned in UK cosmetic products because it causes severe skin irritation.
And the high doses of steroids found in the illegal creams should only be available on prescription because they can cause such serious disruption to the body's hormone levels.
The patient, who is black, also had thin, bruised skin and mild hair growth on her back and face as well as muscle weakness.
Doctors diagnosed her with Cushing's syndrome, which is caused by high levels of steroid hormones such as cortisol in the blood.
It is usually caused by a problem with the adrenal glands, which make the hormones, or with the pituitary gland sending too high a signal to the adrenal glands.
But blood tests on the patient showed very low levels of cortisol and of corticotropin, the signalling hormone in the pituitary gland.
The patient initially denied taking any drugs, but later admitted she had been using skin-lightening creams for seven years, buying them from a local shop rather than a pharmacy.
The cream was found to contain a steroid called clobetasol.
The woman was using about two tubes per week - about 60 grams of the cream.
'Million-pound market'
The medical team, led by Dr Tricia Tan and Dr Tony Goldstone, said: "Patients are often reluctant to admit that they have used skin-lightening creams - especially if these are supplied illegally.
"Similarly, doctors can be unaware of the need to inquire.
"But the market is worth millions of pounds a year, in the UK alone.
"Creams can contain toxic substances, such as steroids and hydroxyquinone, and patients are typically unaware of the risks."
Dr Goldstone said people who were using the creams should not stop immediately, because their bodies would no longer be making enough hormones since it was getting them from the creams - albeit in very high doses.
"People should go to their GP who will refer them to an endocrinologist."
Dr Olivia Stevenson, a spokeswoman for the British Association of Dermatologists, said: "Most problems we see are things like stretch marks, bruising and broken veins.
"To develop Cushing's, someone would have to use huge quantities of these creams for them to be absorbed into the body and cause these symptoms."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/health/7244374.stm
| | 3/4/2008 5:27:14 PM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | |
chinatown_girl
Oyster Bay, NY
age: 19
| Skin Bleaching Chemical Hydroquinone Legal In US, Despite Cancer Potential
Nov 28, 2007 | Parker Waichman Alonso LLP
Hydroquinone, a product used in some skin bleaching agents, could have dangerous health consequences. The toxic substance is banned in the UK, but in the US the use of hydroquinone in over-the-counter cosmetics is restricted, but allowed. Despite its legality, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says that testing cannot rule out hydroquinone's potential cancer risk in humans.
Skin bleaching—using chemical or natural products to lighten skin color—is common in the US and other countries and psychologists say consumer demand can be traced to the belief that lighter-skinned or white people are more successful, intelligent, and sexually desirable. Cosmetics industry experts feel that as Asian, African, and African-Caribbean communities grow, so too will ethnic spending power for products marketed to lighten skin tone, some containing hydroquinone. Cosmetics industry analysts say cosmetics companies realize there's money to be made here and claim minority communities are an underserved market with a long tradition of buying bleaching products, legal or otherwise.
There has been a perceptible increase in skin creams, soaps, and deodorants containing whitening and bleaching agents. Some experts blame consumer demand on the media centering on fair-skinned celebrities, claiming the media promotes an image that those who are light-skinned are successful and attractive. Recently, an African American D.J. was criticized for offering light-skinned women free admission into a Detroit nightclub. Colorism isn't limited to any one ethnic group. A commercial seen on Indian satellite channels and YouTube shows a glum, dark-skinned man who, after using lightening cream, turns many shades whiter, walking with confidence, and with a beautiful woman running to his side. Many in Africa are using bleaching cream to lighten their skin because they associate lighter skin with beauty. Despite attempts by the Ghanaian government to ban it, skin bleaching is on the rise.
Dermatologists say bleaching creams with hydroquinone are safe to reduce the appearance of age spots or smaller blemishes, but only if used as directed. But other skin specialists say abusing products, for example by rubbing the product on the entire face, neck, or body can be dangerous over time, saying that there is no safe way to bleach skin beyond its natural color. Other experts say that skin bleaching, while very popular, contains toxic chemicals that are linked to weakened immune systems, organ failure, and even death.
Initially, the bleaching cream will appear to lighten the skin, but oxidation between the sun and chemicals starts darkening the skin. At this point, increased use of the cream tends to occur, causing the skin to break and chemicals to penetrate into the bloodstream and reach major organs where serious damage can occur.
The trend of skin bleaching in Africa is similar to that of tanning in the US. People tan their skin because they think tanned skin is more beautiful. As with skin bleaching, there are many risks involved with tanning. Evidence links UVA rays to malignant melanoma, the deadliest form of skin cancer. Overexposure to any UV rays can cause loss of skin elasticity, premature aging, and cancer; damage to the skin is irreversible. Despite all the risks, people continue to try to make themselves more beautiful with dangerous methods like skin bleaching and tanning.
| | 3/4/2008 8:46:45 PM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | | 
katiescarlett72
Justin, TX
age: 35
| Did you double-check this yourself?
It has been pretty much repudiated. See Snopes, for example.
Actually, I HAVE checked this out myself, and it turns out that it's NOT in error. Obama just can't keep his story straight to save his life, on his religion or any other topic.
Snopes.com is not the Final Authority on All Things. It's an entertainment website run by a married couple out of California (gosh, think they have any political opinions of their own?). The couple themselves have admitted that many times, their "sources" are unverifiable. They are also responsible for "false" legends that have ended up being taken as true, because they decided to circulate them as a "joke," using their own website's reputation for authenticity.
| | 3/4/2008 9:16:36 PM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | |
oceans5555
Chevy Chase, MD
age: 64
| Hi, Scarlett,
Excellent. Yes, there are several sites that do a pretty good job debunking Urban Legends, and of course there was the CNN debunking of much of the anti-Obama stuff. So, how did you check it out?
Oceans
| | 3/4/2008 11:01:41 PM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | | 
soulcitywalker
Lexington, KY
age: 49
| knaught: I do know his church's website in chicago changed in the past month. what is there now, isnt what was posted 1-2 months ago.
SCW: That's a lie.
The site still has the same info that I copied in November when you all began posting these distortions.
| | 3/4/2008 11:06:12 PM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | |
soulcitywalker
Lexington, KY
age: 49
| oceans: Did you double-check this yourself?
It has been pretty much repudiated. See Snopes, for example.
SCW: Right on, oceans!!!
The republicans are intentionally mis-interpreting his speeches, and then creating red herrings like the bull sassy posted and then answering them.
Pretty slick...because they know these dummies are NOT going to go and check to see if Obama actually said those things, but will read the articles containing these lies.
| | 3/4/2008 11:11:50 PM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | |
soulcitywalker
Lexington, KY
age: 49
| katiescarlett: Obama just can't keep his story straight to save his life, on his religion or any other topic.
SCW: Puhleeze!
How could a man that was educated at this nation's most prestigious law school (Harvard), became the editor of the Harvard Law Review, and just yesterday in a Pew research article was voted "much more intelligent than Clinton and McCain"...not be able to "keep his story straight?!"
Simply ridiculous.
| | 3/5/2008 5:55:33 AM | just one page-his lies-part 1 | | 
oper8tor1
Dalzell, SC
age: 40
| WOW!! Sassy lays out out a very extensive list of reports and facts about Obama talking out of both sides of his mouth and Oceans wants her to "DOUBLE CHECK" her sources. Claiming Snopes had debunked them. Katie challenges the snopes statement with facts and Oceans comes back with CNN debunking them. No links mind you, just that they did. The fact that CNN has been carrying water for Obama from jump street means nothing to Oceans, it fits his agenda. How about you check it out Oceans, why don't you debunk what Saasy says?? You always want facts and sources but seem unwilling to research them yourself.
SCW, you're not serious with this statement...are you??
How could a man that was educated at this nation's most prestigious law school (Harvard), became the editor of the Harvard Law Review, and just yesterday in a Pew research article was voted "much more intelligent than Clinton and McCain"...not be able to "keep his story straight?!"
Are you that naive?? Could it be possible that this man is so intelligent, to the point of arrogance, that he felt no one is qualified to question him?? Could it be that he is using his SUPERIOR intelligence for political oppurtunism?? Wouldn't be the first time. Everything in Sassys' post would prove that to be true. If he is so intelligent, why hasn't HE personally answered these claims? Instead he lets his staff spin it for him. It seems the media has finally taken the kid gloves off with Obama and you refuse to acknowledge he is not the next coming.
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