3/13/2008 1:31:42 PMREDEMPTION - price paid for - Justification 

dana1956
New Braunfels, TX
age: 51


JESUS died for you as well as me and all will pay homage and respect to him for that fact one day whether you like it or not. I therefore pray that all who read this will be comfortable with the choices we have made throughout life. I know for one that if one third of the bible is true I could be in big trouble. Reality is I am human and sometimes worse a man.
Don't get me wrong pretty clean life but not perfect shall we say. Jesus is that Justification, Redemption... We stand justified because of what He did for us. As true as Adam fell first, the second Adam, JESUS overcame. He is your redemption...and if God the Father gave a Holy Child names Jesus as a a gift to us and all I have to do is believe that in my heart... not what you say he said he said... I'll accept those terms as a better way for me cause my way gets me sometimes. It's not all about the hoopalah. Just believe and trust and you'll do the right things alot easier.You see it stems down deeper into one, than some would know... signs and wonders, you know it makes you wonder... well unless you been there I can't explain it... but those who have been there know. I hope with all my heart you all find the path that is right in the end... how ever you find it , may it be peaceful and loving, and remember who your buddies are, will they be standing there with you in the end???? My buddy is , Thank you JESUS.

In Jesus Holy name King of Kings

To God be the Glory

And Everyone said

Amen and Amen



Forgive me if it seems blunt but that is just the way it is going to be...

EVERYKNEE SHALL BOW AND CONFESS JESUS IS LORD

God Bless you all



[Edited 3/13/2008 1:34:14 PM]

3/15/2008 10:08:56 PMREDEMPTION - price paid for - Justification 

curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42 online now!


So, you think the value of Jesus' death, comes from God making him suffer?


Or in the lesson that we are supposed to have a personal relation with GOD, that Gods Kingdom is Not a worldly Kingdom but a spiritual Kingdom, and by valuing good and right, and spirit, we are worshipping GHod,

not by going to church, even when we don't want to be there.

Jesus death was to show us the hypocrisy and self serving nature of both the government and the church, He constantly told off and warned us about being tempted, and being tempted was wanting more than what was narurally ours.

when he warned about the Pharisees, yeast I believe it was, His point was, because theyw erent bringing what was theres from home, that was frugal and cheap, and enough, they were going to eat the food from other places, and has warning them to not be tempted into the world of acquisition and greed, and want.

it is superficiality that he was warning them about. don't fall prey to greed, and want.

3/15/2008 10:55:16 PMREDEMPTION - price paid for - Justification 

darkwriter
Sacramento, CA
age: 39


*shudders*



[Edited 3/15/2008 11:01:30 PM]

3/15/2008 11:28:10 PMREDEMPTION - price paid for - Justification 

curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42 online now!


LMAO

3/16/2008 7:12:51 AMREDEMPTION - price paid for - Justification 

dana1956
New Braunfels, TX
age: 51


Curious,

you seem so lost sometimes. I find it somewhat difficult if not impossible to interpret the bible if I pick it apart. If we look at just the cross we will probably not understand. The message if looked at as a whole is quite easy. Adam and Eve messed up just one commandment. God gave Moses 10 to follow. People could not do them either. God in his passion for humanity gave us a way to get to heaven besides the law because the law was not working because of mans own will. Jesus defeated death through His death on the cross. The prophets were killed because of lack of belief of God.


Big difference between them and Jesus was the miracles Jesus performed to prove God sent Him.

The cross is God's way to justify us now, it is the new covenant. God sent, sent again and again, then came Himself in human form to teach make people believe in Him. Now we have the one choice to make as to our final destination.

There are two deaths we are born to see. The both are overcome by what Jesus did. If one does not accept Jesus, there will be the first death of the flesh, then the death of the spirit in the lake of fire.

Jack goes no where without the beanstalk, and Jesus is like that beanstalk.



[Edited 3/16/2008 7:34:24 AM]

3/17/2008 9:38:42 AMREDEMPTION - price paid for - Justification 

deathmetalman77
Crescent City, CA
age: 34


dana posted:


Jesus defeated death through His death on the cross.


Do you ever stop to really think about what you are saying??? That statement COMPLETELY contradicts itself, it is obsurd as a turd!!!

There is no proof that Jesus defeated death and acsended into heaven!!! Mary went to his tomb and it was empty, but where was Jesus???

No matter how much I claim that I will return from the dead after being dead for 3 days, I still will be dead as a door nail. NO MATTER HOW BAD THAT I DON"T WANT TO DIE!!!

Jesus KNEW that he pissed off the government; Jesus knew the penalty for starting a revolution agianst the Romans!!! It was all about politics, not spiritual warfare!!!

Jesus had a huge following!!! The Romans couldn't have a bunch of revolutionaries that follow Jesus and his political liberal ideas running around and causing MORE trouble. So the Catholic church developed Christianity and canonized the Bible and CHANGED the agenda and meanings to CONFUSE us even more!!!! It is all a bunch of mass population control agendas designed by organized religion to keep us un~organized and therefore powerless!!!

But I guess that you would rather blindly ejaculate a prayer and talk about how Christ is coming!!!! (Hey, my Merriam~Webster Dictionary used that as an example....Not just me!!!)Rather than hear that you have been decieved all your life!!!

3/17/2008 1:34:54 PMREDEMPTION - price paid for - Justification 

curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42 online now!


what was ADAM and Eves Sin?? that Jesus died for?

this is such a misperception of the message of jesus.

you are caught up in his death, and his life teaching is what was important.

He told you live, with spirit in your heart not money and want repeatedly.

and you continue to think it is his death that is important???
so you think that had jesus NOT died, and had he been allowed to continue teaching, his message would have been useless?

3/17/2008 8:39:37 PMREDEMPTION - price paid for - Justification 

deathmetalman77
Crescent City, CA
age: 34


I think that his, Jesus Christ's message would have been better if he would have wrote it himself AFTER he resurrected from the dead. He could have stuck around for a few years to make sure that everybody didn't misconstrue his teachings!!!! How omnicient/omnipotent is that????