| 3/31/2008 8:30:44 PM | I really hate discrimination | | 
lrbear
Hickory, NC
age: 23
| I really hate how people point towards religion as an excuse to discriminate against people especially gays...god made us in his image, if you're gay, you're gay!!! can't do anything about it...seriously people therre's nothing wrong with people who are gay. I am deaf (although very straight) and i've dealt with discrimination and anyone who's discriminatory needs to be shot! Saint Augustine, a very big fixture of Christianity during his time, once said, "Deaf children are symbols of SIN"....which i think is complete bullshit and i'm sure everyone here would agree nothing wrong with me being deaf?! RIGHT?!   
| | 3/31/2008 8:37:07 PM | I really hate discrimination | | kay46
Quitaque, TX
age: 46
| nothing being wrong with being deaf, and i have never heard that expression before
| | 3/31/2008 9:02:54 PM | I really hate discrimination | | 
bry11ca
Wyandotte, MI
age: 43
| LRBear,
How far is Hickory from Raleigh? I have a friend there who is deaf, work for IBM, and he is very cool & smart. Discrimination seems to come easily from people who either don't understand others or have been taught HATE or SUPERIORITY. I mean . . . that's what you are talking about, right?
Do you view yourself as anything less than me because I can hear?
I think it sucks that you can't but I don't. Maybe you just need to tune your ears to the few of us who don't judge so narrowly.
OK, just to show you that I know what I'm talking about . . . how come deaf people cuss so f*cking much? You know what I mean?
Bry 
| | 3/31/2008 9:59:19 PM | I really hate discrimination | | cancello
Cincinnati, OH
age: 58
| Judge yee not,least yee be judged.
| | 4/2/2008 1:43:54 PM | I really hate discrimination | | prohooah
Mount Holly, NC
age: 18
| People are made in the image of God, true; but the Bible is very explicit in stating that homosexuality is an unnatural affection away from the purpose of God.
I have gay friends, but when asked, I kindly let them know what I believe: that a homosexual lifestyle is a sin. That's not being discriminatory by any means. There are some sects of Christians who take it to an extreme that manifests in the form of ostracization and hate. This also is a sin because Christians are supposed to love all people. In the metaphorical words of Jesus, "It's not the healthy that need a doctor, but the sick..."
God loves all people regardless of gender, race, and sexual orientation... but as far as whether or not gays are born gay or choose to be that way, the Bible is very explicit on the standpoint that the lifestyle is chosen. Whether you choose to accept this or not is ultimately your decision, but God's Word is very clear in regards to this matter.
Read the first chapter of Romans.
| | 4/2/2008 3:50:00 PM | I really hate discrimination | | jduffy
Granville, NY
age: 63
| humans, as we know them, have been on this earth for approx. 1 million years. during that time there have been thousands of religions and many more forms of religious belief, and nearly none of them, as far as we know, ever condemned homosexuality. and it can very easily be argued that the Judeo-Christian religion(5,000 years old) which is based in older earht-based religions, has not done so either. A few Christian commentators do not constitute Christianity itself--which in its early stages took on various forms, some far more tolerant than others.
| | 4/2/2008 5:02:59 PM | I really hate discrimination | | rlynn_1
Hedgesville, WV
age: 39
| being gay is not normal or acceptable in my book,then why is there male and female?
if being gay was correct then there would be only one gender!
| | 4/3/2008 5:01:15 AM | I really hate discrimination | | 
burnkitty
Fayetteville, AR
age: 33
| Intruiging... Bigots with a bible in one hand and a stone in the other... why don't you throw out that word "abomination" that Christians seem to love assossiating gay people with? That's always nice. Love doesn't matter in the eyes of the bigoted, huh? Holding a bible, by the way, doesn't make you less a bigot. Besides, how do they affect you in the least bit?
| | 4/8/2008 10:46:05 PM | I really hate discrimination | | 
guitarguy5305
Hemingway, SC
age: 21
| I'm not a real big fan of discrimination either. The Bible does speak against homosexuality. It also says not to be judgmental. The act of homosexuality is a sin, but we have no right to judge homosexuals. Let he without sin cast the first stone. I too have sinned, therefore I'm no better than those that are homosexual. I guess it would be very easy to look at my mistakes and say, "I can't help it, I was just born this way." As a child of Christ, I have to put my faith in him and let him guide me. We all discriminate against others at times. Often the ones being discriminated against, discriminate against their discriminators. It's just an ongoing circle of discrimination. As children of Christ, we should try to break this circle of discrimination, not fuel it. Here's a good question for you. Do you think that incest is wrong? Maybe John Doe was born being sexual attracted to sister. Many of the same people that believe homosexuality is okay, would discriminate against John for his incestuous relationship with his sister. One is just as sinful as the other. I may disapprove of it, but it doesn't mean I think that homosexuals are evil. I think they should be treated fairly. Many homosexuals claim they are being treated unfairly because they can't marry someone of the same sex, but the current marriage laws apply to everyone. The simple fact is that the line has to be drawn somewhere.
| | 4/9/2008 4:46:41 AM | I really hate discrimination | |
burnkitty
Fayetteville, AR
age: 33
| Marrige is a vow between two people and/or not their respective deity. Anyone can make this vow, even the gay community. Who exactly gave the government the power to "recognize marriage"? You cannot tell anyone that they can or cannot make this vow. Both of my mothers did not care whatsoever when making theirs. Having an "official document" does not make you more or less married than anyone else. This has just been an ongoing illusion that marriage and the government are one and the same. Instead, most of this comes down to monetary and child custody problems, and these are the rights being fought for.
| | 4/9/2008 7:49:40 PM | I really hate discrimination | |
guitarguy5305
Hemingway, SC
age: 21
| I do agree that marriage is about the vow and not the official document. Two people can make that vow without the document. Because of my religion, I believe that it is the vow that God uses to recognize two individuals as being married. The definition of marriage depends on each individual's personal beliefs. Government's main purpose is to set regulations. No matter what those regulations are, certain groups of people are going to feel like the regulations set are somehow more unfair to them than others. Regulations still have to be set and unfortunately everyone can't be satisfied.
| | 4/9/2008 11:32:55 PM | I really hate discrimination | | 
dbsuma
Lakewood, OH
age: 40
| Yes well, discrimination is a subject in which I have a rather mixed opinion on.
People are just going to do it pretty much, no matter what you do.
Our media has gone far far out of the way to change public opinion, in order to reduce discrimination but yes, it still exists and in some cases probably should.
People will just do it, not like you for any number of reasons, because you are too fat, too skinny, too young, too old, too ugly, too pretty but gay people, African Americans and women seem to think that they should be protected from certain kinds of discrimination while the rest of us continue to get bombarded. WHY?
What makes them so dam special that they can't take a little criticism, and when you eliminate it, while removing unfair discrimination you also remove valid objective criticism. It just seems very odd to me, really odd, if anything anti discrimination is unfair. Sure in a perfect world there would be no discrimination, so soon as you go build us a prefect little world then I'm sure everyone will be happy to stop discriminating against people.
It is just how the human mind works and should work, it is a natural process and without discrimination we would have went extinct long ago.
When a cave man sees a rock, he might play with it a little bit then figures out that he can use that rock to bash some poor helpless creatures brains in to provide himself with food.
So he makes a little dictionary, if you will, in his brain, under the heading rock: it would likely say a helpful tool to hunt with.
If later he figures out he can use a stick to tie to the rock to make a club or spear, he expands his dictionary to include, Rock with stick: a more helpful tool in which to hunt with.
That is just how people think, it is a part of the human learning process.
I guess the trouble, as far as discrimination is that some people are copying off other people's paper without getting first hand experience in the matter themselves, which is also good, as far as the learning process, then everyone in the world won't have to find out what a rock does for themselves, they can just tell somebody else then they'll know.
But they hear that blacks are this or gays are that from a third hand source and they put it in their little dictionary.
The person they got that information from, if he was the original source of that information might not have made a complete random sampling of the general population and just noted what he saw.
If he saw a black person standing around doing nothing or committing a crime he'd likely write in his little dictionary Black people: Lazy criminals.
And if he saw a women standing around going nothing except selling herself for fun and profit, he'd likely write Women: Useless wh*res.
If he saw a Jew stealing candy from a baby then fondling it he'd probably write Jew: Thieving child molesters.
But of course that does no mean that all black people are lazy, all women wh*res and all Jews child molesters, just the ones he happen to see.
But if enough people witness the same characteristics by same group then what is call a stereotype is formed. Not a scientific survey by any means just a general opinion by other members of society outside the group being stereotyped.
But to be quite honest, greater than average portion of the time most stereotypes are usually a fairly valid description of those people in that social group. No, not all the time but certainly above any control group that might be measure for the use of comparison.
What is more stereotypes change over time as that social group changes.
Blacks for instance have gone threw several evolutions of different degrees of stereotypes threw our nations history and not all of them negative stereotypes, as some hold today.
As the behavior of the group changes the stereotypes also change, as the observable behavior changes, then so does the definition that people associate with that group.
After decades of racist police arresting any African Americans who even looked like they were doing anything wrong, a lot of those people who were actually doing things wrong got dragged off to jail as well, leaving those not distributing a great deal of criminal behavior. As it is now most black people have jobs, are married, send their kids to school and are not entirely different than most white people, at least in the North. So the stereotype is/will and has been changing again, even without the aid of social programming by the media.
While in the 1950's to 1980's that stereotype might very well have been deserved in a good portion of the cases, much to the detriment of those who didn't deserve it.
So I view discrimination as an accidental byproduct of the human learning process and probably a very helpful one.
In addition to early man finding definitions for sticks and stones, they also gather food.
If his friend eat a certain kind of orange berry and died soon after, he'd likely like put in his dictionary Orange berries:Poison, stay away.
Granted it might have very well have been a coincidence and his friend might have died from some unrelated cause, but better safe than dead.
So likewise people do the same with social groups and I think that is nothing but a good thing. Without it we could not survive or at least not as well.
It would help people know which area of town were high crime areas. It would help people to avoid women that might like to take away all his money.
The ability to discriminate is what keeps us from doing outrageously stupid shit so our friend can laugh at us when we end up arriving at the all to inevitable conclusion and saying "DUH!, don't you have any freakin common sense?".
No that doesn't mean that all black people will try and rob you nor that all women will...errr...well, try and rob you, just a known danger that a higher than average number of black people engage in criminal activities and a higher than average number of women are gold digging wh*res. So to avoid danger good advice would be to avoid danger and Orange berries.
And sure some people are discriminated against unfairly but it is a problem of the human condition that is not likely to go away any time soon, so sure, you might be the member of Attila the Huns army that just wants to be friends or a bee that doesn't want to sting anybody. Then my advice would probably be that the best way to distinguish yourself as different from the social group that you belong to, that is being stereotyped in a fashion that is not consistent with your particular behavior would be just that, to distinguish yourself from them, then a new social group will be formed, like buppies, black yuppies.
[Edited 4/9/2008 11:35:18 PM]
| | 4/9/2008 11:33:02 PM | I really hate discrimination | |
dbsuma
Lakewood, OH
age: 40
| As far as homosexuality is concerned, I think in a lot of ways it is a different bag of nuts, pardon the expression.
I agree with you in some sense and find it odd that presumably straight guys would discriminate against gay men. I can only assume that they must feel threatened in some way. But I'm unclear as to what discriminations gay people actually think they face in this post modern American society of ours?
They are not lynched from trees for being gay?
Not deprived of an education, housing or food.
They don't have to use separate drinking fountains or are issued special license plates.
If anything they proudly display their homosexuality for all to see.
Sure they might hear an occasional snicker or two or overhear an off colored joke.
In which case I'd have to say, get the f**k over it Sally, you're a f*g, what the hell do you expect, ya freakin drama queen.
But no, I don't necessarily think that there is anything wrong with being gay, if that is your kink, then go for it but don't think that is the way that god made you.
Knowing a little bit about this subject, I think you will find if you ever did any real research of your own, that most gay people are gay for entirely other reasons.
Yes there are some, few but some people who are just born that way.
It happens in dogs and all sorts of animals, so it is a part of nature, it is just in humans those born gay are just a small tiny fragment of those who are gay.
There are many many many more gay people who are gay for other reason other than mother nature.
Mostly it is an issue of sexual orientation.
People will general stick to what they know, so I'd say that most people who are gay are gay cause some old creepy f*g played around with them when they were little kids and gay sexual activity is all they ever have known, so when they grow up most become gay themselves.
It is what is call the cycle of abuse.
Most people who were physically abused as children grow up to abuse their own children.
It is what they know.
Most men who's fathers physically abused their mothers will grow up to abuse their own spouses.
It is just what they know.
Most people who's parents sexual abuse their children will most likely sexual abuse their own children.
It is just what they know.
And most people whose sexual orientation was to be sexual molested by someone of the same sex will likely grow up to sexually molest children themselves.
That's just how it works.
Men who were sexual abused as children by grown adults or other boys will likely seek out such experience later in life, as they mature, go threw puberty and physically need sex, since that is the only thing they have ever known.
Yes, they are victims, I think a majority of the population of America has been the silent victims of sexual abuse as children and a vast majority of gay men were sexual abused by other males.
So to discriminate against them is, well inappropriate by most standards.
But it does leave them with an obligation, if they were, became, were "made" to be gay threw sexual abuse, to not continue that cycle of abuse and victimize others.
Generally that IS what happens, victims eventually turn into victimizers themselves.
When they get older they assume the role of the one who abused them, it is what they know.
But I'd suggest greater public awareness of this condition rather than to either discriminate or say don't discriminate and pretend like the worlds dirty little secret just doesn't exist.
Then there is the Jews.
Apparently lots of them have psychology degrees and have this stupid megalomaniac homicidal religion, so knowing this social and psychological process exists, purposely go out and find young boys to sexual molest, hoping that they will turn gay as adults and not have any kids, so that the gay devil worshipping lying theieveing sniveling spinless low life white trash Jew f*got filth can CONQUER DA VORLD for their evil scub bag lizard god.
That if you sexual abuse a young boy or girl that they will tend to block it out from their minds, as being too traumatic for their young minds to handle, or course, being young and insecure and unsure of their selves, they might not want sex and most certainly not from an adult. So this naturally occurring psychological process is artificially recreated to purposely cause young people just turn gay.
If they do end up blocking it out from their minds then they will still remember it subconsciously, so the thinking is that they will stand a greater chance of growing up gay.
So the Jews join the Priesthood, become cub scout leaders, day care center teachers and owners, join Christian organizations since they are so trusting, become summer camp counselors and all sorts of other things, anywhere and everywhere that young children are left unattended to by their parents to purposely sexually molest them in the hopes that the victim of this sexual abuse will grow up to become gay and not reproduce any offspring, making it easier to CONQUER DA VOLRD for their god.
Just for your information.
| | 4/12/2008 6:48:48 AM | I really hate discrimination | | njman
Jersey City, NJ
age: 49
| discrimination, hmmmmmm , i think when avarage person doesnt UNDERSTAND the OTHER, he /she, takes the shortest road to deal with the other person in a BAD WAY which leads to discrimination or a kind of discrimination, read what most people here wrote about ANY other or any (different) and u will see they are breathing and spitting hate with smiley faces, its sad and sickening, makes me sick, u feel sorry for them .but its ugly, really ugly, i wish i can make them drunk all the time they be might are better drunk right 
[Edited 4/12/2008 6:52:24 AM]
| | 4/12/2008 10:59:51 AM | I really hate discrimination | | 
adameve
Lacombe, LA
age: 46
| How about if we put all guy people on a Island what well happen to them? did we kill them are the way they life did?
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