| 4/23/2008 12:25:33 AM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | 
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 54
| In the dogmas of Holy Mother Church sexual intercourse was a concession from spiritual purity made in the interests of procreation. Inevitably indulgence in the act meant shame and sin. But of course, the grandees of the Church knew that such sinning was as inevitable as night following day – and where there was sin there was money to be made.
The Church waxed rich on the proceeds of its sex rackets. Sexual guilt, whether in thought or deed, required penance. The ceremony of marriage became a Church monopoly. The churching of children began the cycle of exploitation all over again. The unwed existence of a vast portion of humankind, regimented into 'orders', made available both males and females for nefarious purposes. Their celibacy ensured that the only beneficiary of accrued wealth was the Church itself.
Today the ludicrous and self-serving doctrines of the Church still extract a toll – in the anguish of unwanted pregnancy, abortion or divorce; in torments over sexual orientation; in the pain of guilt, loneliness and insecurity; and in the public scandals which, from time to time, dethrone an icon of rectitude and "family values".
Christianity's anti-sexual, puritanical doctrines have inflicted untold damage on the mental, emotional and physical lives of countless millions of people. Through the course of centuries this malevolent faith has left a trail of emotionally and mentally disturbed people, people who have punished themselves and caused distress to others, in a life filled with guilt, shame and denial.
Self-hatred leading to suicide, frigid marriages leading to violence, years of loneliness, anger and regret, are some of the milder consequences of the psychosis. Misogyny, pedophilia, homophobia, rage against abortion, opposition to birth control, obsession with virgin purity, obstruction of stem cell research, morbid self-denial, flagellation, censorship of literature and art, intolerance of alternative lifestyles – Christianity's legacy runs as a foul stain across the human landscape.
| | 4/23/2008 12:28:34 AM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | |
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 54
| Paedophiles for Jesus
"But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God." – Luke 18.16.
The psychosexual disorder of paedophilia may owe more to the psychotic malaise of Christianity than mere institutional opportunity.
In many respects, Christianity – and in particular its iconography – has an obsession with the "Christ child", a perfect, often naked, infant.
Does this encourage a morbid interest in prepubescent children? Does "love of Christ" lead inexorably into "love" of his children. For some among the many thousands of priestly abusers, this must certainly be the case.
| | 4/23/2008 9:06:34 AM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | healthologist
Page, AZ
age: 61
| According to the Bible, sex didn't use to be a sin. What was a sin were dietary indiscretions. As I see it, in days of old, women (and men) wanted to cook and break the dietary laws. Women got tired of being one of many wives and men got tired of not having a break from having sex daily(24-7-365), so they slowly changed the emphasis on food being a sin to sex being a sin. JMO
| | 4/23/2008 1:09:19 PM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| "A disturbing fact continues to surface in sex abuse research. The first best predictor
of abuse is alcohol or drug addiction in the father. But the second best predictor is
conservative religiosity, accompanied by parental belief in traditional male-female
roles. This means that if you want to know which children are most likely to be sexually
abused by their father, the second most significant clue is whether or not the parents
belong to a conservative religious group with traditional role beliefs and rigid sexual
attitudes." (Brown and Bohn, 1989; Finkelhor, 1986; Fortune, 1983; Goldstein et al, 1973;
Van Leeuwen, 1990). - Sexual Abuse in Christian Homes and Churches, by Carolyn Holderread
Heggen, Herald Press, Scotdale, PA, 1993 p. 73]
Let's give a big hand for "christian" FAMILY VALUES!!!!
the perverts!
| | 4/23/2008 7:47:11 PM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | 
oddinn123
Eugene, OR
age: 41
| HAY jewelz 5 how is it going? YOU KNOW i could set here and point findgers at
anygroup on the planet,and most would have the same problems,maybe not as much
probly because they are smaller groups.
THIS IS OLD NEWS sex is a problem in any group,do you have a NEW perfect religion for all people,or for what you would
call the sheap?I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT,i get a kick out of your post.
have a good one praise GOD.
[Edited 4/23/2008 7:52:31 PM]
| | 4/24/2008 7:35:22 AM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| "Science has done more for the development of western civilization in one hundred years than Christianity did in eighteen hundred years."-John Burroughs
"The circumstances of the world are continually changing, and the opinions of men change also; and as government is for the living, and not for the dead, it is the living only that has any right in it. That which may be thought right and found convenient in one age, may be thought wrong and found inconvenient in another. In such cases, who is to decide, the living, or the dead?"-- Thomas Paine,
"We desire that the church shall not be judged by its present promises, but by its past performance. We wish to show what it was in the evil days of its supremacy, when opportunity matched inclination, and it acted according to the laws of its nature, unchecked by science, free thought and humanity".--G.W. Foote and J.M. Wheeler
| | 4/24/2008 7:48:59 AM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | justme86
Waco, TX
age: 22
| More anti-Christianity propaganda. Go flame somewhere else?
| | 4/24/2008 8:28:52 AM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| "Yet this is trash that the Church imposes upon the world as the Word of God; this is the
collection of lies and contradictions called the Holy Bible! this is the rubbish called
Revealed Religion!"- Thomas Paine,
"The common dogma [of fundamentalists] is fear of modern knowledge, inability to cope
with the fast change in a scientific-technological society, and the real breakdown in
apparent moral order in recent years.... That is why hate is the major fuel, fear is the
cement of the movement, and superstitious ignorance is the best defense against the
dangerous new knowledge. ... When you bring up arguments that cast serious doubts on their
cherished beliefs you are not simply making a rhetorical point, you are threatening their
whole Universe and their immortality. That provokes anger and quite frequently violence. ...
Unfortunately you cannot reason with them and you even risk violence in confronting them.
Their numbers will decline only when society stabilizes, and adapts to modernity."-G Gaia
| | 4/24/2008 10:16:18 AM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | |
jewelz5
Monteagle, TN
age: 54
| The pimping clergy
The Christian clergy, more than all others, have inveighed against "lust", held to be a mortal sin which jeopardizes the eternal soul. Yet in practice the hierarchs of the church have indulged in every carnal vice and then confounded their licentiousness with cupidity and violence. But this is not merely the fallibility of human nature transgressing God's perfect laws. The twisted and inhuman precepts of Christianity, which masquerade as "love" sublime, are perverted in design as well as criminal in consequence.
The "sex crimes" inherited from Judaism became rank nonsense in the musings of the Church fathers. In time, the Church would extend its rules on "blood marriages" (consanguinity) out to a ludicrous seven generations, but not because of any concern for in-breeding. In a pre-industrial village almost everyone could be shown to have had a common ancestor. The real intent was to collect fees for dispensations to marry which were levied on almost anyone who had extractable wealth.
Pimp-in-chief was the pope himself. Sixtus IV (1471-1484) not only licensed the brothels of Rome, he taxed priests for their mistresses and even sold permits which allowed rich men "to solace certain matrons in the absence of their husbands" (De Rosa, p101).
True love, the surrender of the individual to another in physical and emotional pleasure, their bonding together into a union stronger than all others, the sacrifice each to the other, ran counter to an unchallenged primacy of the religious cause and an unfettered loyalty to the Church. Natural affection was driven out by "Christian morality", which, when it did not fill the believer with the terrors of the pit, brought in its train private traumas and public shame.
In a million unknown torments across two millennia the psychotic disorder of Christianity wrought havoc and misery. The counterfeit passion on offer, even to claims of earth-moving ecstasy, was a "spiritual communion" with the illusory godman, an audacious claim incompatible with reality, though perhaps real enough in the religious imagination.
To be sure, Christianity had comforters on offer for the lost souls it created, the depressed, the lonely and the frustrated. Whether a flickering candle, or an icon of the virgin, the falsetto voices of a choir, or the pomp and theatricals of the sacraments, the majestic gloom of a basilica or the homely comfort of a Bible study class. It was – and is – a world of sham and subterfuge – and, of course, fellowship with Christ, a placebo conjured from the ether.
| | 4/24/2008 11:59:53 AM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| "Watch a priest in a public conveyance. He is fighting against disturbing suggestions. He
must not look at women lest he think of sex. He must not look about him, for reality, that
is to say the devil, waits to seduce him on every hand. You see him muttering his protective
incantations, avoiding your eye. He is suppressing 'sinful' thoughts. That type is the
binding material of the Church. The appeal of sex is as natural to a young male as eating.
Its suppression is a defiance of everything for which a healthy male exists. So that in the
priestly mind we deal with something sexually as well as intellectually malignant. And this
applies, through all the glamor of his vestments, incense and so forth, to the Pope, as to
any other member of the hierarchy. We are dealing with ideas left over from the Dark Ages,
in the brains of a being at once puerile, perverted and malignant."-H. G. Wells
| | 4/24/2008 12:43:23 PM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | lady_bug_honey
Rural Retreat, VA
age: 56
| Jewelz5, You have catholicism, and Christianity mixed up. Catholicism is all about the traditions of men, and catholicism is nothing more than a complete and total lie coming from a mear man, (the pope). Christianity is a way of life and that's loving God, our creator, and accepting that He loved us so much that He gave His only begotten Son, (Jesus) to die so we wouldn't have to pay the price for sin and end up in a burning hell.
Alot of people think when a person says they are a christian, they are really a christian but NOT TRUE. There are only a remeint of true Christians that will try to live the example that Jesus set before us.
| | 4/24/2008 9:22:59 PM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | 
dbsuma
Lakewood, OH
age: 40
| Well, as usual Jewels, I think you care completely insane but partially right.
what is more it still goes on today.
There are churches that still do these things but from my understanding most have been taken over by the CIA as child sex rings.
I think it is more of a Catholic thing.
I guess the idea is that find a congressman, get him a 12 year old girl or boy or whatever he wants then ask him for favors. If he still wants his addiction fed then he must comply and if he doesn't then you can always blackmail him to do what you want, with the same service you provided to him.
That's how stupid shit like this war comes about, cause all these congressmen that have to vote the way they are told to vote or go to jail.
America is not really a democracy you know.
I do believe I do remember the church in England using nuns as prostitutes, from Geoffrey Chaucer The Canterbury Tales but that was written in the 1300's so doubt it still exists today.
But I think what you are talking about is something else.
Something else that I've never heard of before and I think the bible quote is probably completely out of context.
And you are right about the effects of sexual abuse on children and young adults.
It destroys people's minds and entire lives are lost to it.
But I think that is more of a Jewish racket these days.
In my never ending quest to expose the real evils of Judaism, I can explain to you the tradition of fisting day.
From what I was told this is a long standing tradition among Jews but I'm unclear as to if it is still held with all denominations. Some have abandoned this practice thinking that they have now conquered the world now and don't have to continue with this barbaric tradition.
But the long and the short of it is, as it was explained to me, that young girls will likely fall in love with the first guy who sticks their d*ck in them.
So responsible Jewish father fist f**k their daughters when they turn 14.
The idea being that if you take away or detract from the sexual sensation they fell during intercourse they will likely seek mate based on other factors other than just sex, like money.
Otherwise she might end up in a trailer park with 6 kids, so they will tell you that they do it for her own good, as responsible parents.
Sometimes, often preferably the girl is so traumatized by this experience that she often forgets it even happened but regardless, she'll eventually grow up and get married.
Having gone threw this tradition, she'll either hate sex and not want to do it with anyone including her own husband or love sex and want to do it with everyone besides her own husband.
So Jewish fathers start molesting their daughters pretty much from childbirth, by age three full blow sexual intercourse is not uncommon.
The idea here being that it is an act of compassion from the father to get her all nice and stretched out, so when fisting day comes it will not be too painful for her.
Also, another justification of Jewish fathers to have sex with their daughters, from what I was told is that their wives were all once 14 too and have all gone threw fisting day themselves and either don't want to give them sex or screwing around with everyone in town, so it should be the "rights of the father" to have sex with his own daughters, so that being in this religion that has this tradition, he can still have a chance, perhaps for the first time in his life to have sex with somebody who actually loves him.
And children will love their parents, even if they are creepy child molesters.
After 14 the father is not suppose to touch her anymore and sex is reserved for whomever she will eventually marry but I'm sure quite often it carries on long into adulthood.
A similar practice also takes place from the boys, besides circumcision, along the same line of reasoning, to detract from sexual sensation, but I'm unclear as to what else takes place. Some other sexual abuse, most likely being raped in the a** by his father.
I think this is the bar mitzvah tradition or closely related to it in the child's age, then then they are thrown a party to welcome them into the adult Jewish life.
That certainly is something I never saw when I watched fiddler on the roof.
As you can well imagine most of the girls turn out to be outrageous wh*res and the boys incredible f*gs. So noticing this outcome some Jews began doing this to non Jewish children, idea being that they can turn the girls into their sex slave wh*res to pimp out for fun and profit. The boys would likely become gay and they can use them as their slaves as well.
That the goy will not reproduce anymore, since all the boys would then be gay, so they can conquer the VORLD for their scum bag god.
Sure the girls would still have sex but since all the goy men would be gay, as most of them are now today, then the women would likely only have sex with Jews and they could use the offspring as their slaves or with blacks, who would be no threat to them economically.
Such a sick sick world.
But it is a practice that is likely to continue because anyone that exposes it is labeled an antisimite and the whole things is swept under the rug.
[Edited 4/24/2008 9:25:01 PM]
| | 5/2/2008 10:58:10 AM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| "There is nothing in the world more shameful than establishing one's self on lies and fables."~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
This applies to both believers and non-believers...
| | 5/3/2008 3:40:38 AM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | |
dbsuma
Lakewood, OH
age: 40
| yeah, sounds a bit too much after re-reading it.
My parents dragged me to church every Sunday till I was 16 and I was never offered any sex there, unfortunately. Sure would have made things a lot more interesting.
Plus Marriage existed long before Christianity.
He does make a point about arranged marriages but that is more of a cultural thing that a religious thing and again, existed before Christianity and still exists in other cultures outside the Christian world like in India.
But arranged marriages and prostitution are not exactly the same thing but I'm sure the line blurs a little bit, long ago, if you were poor but I think most cultures require the girls family to pay a dowry not the males family, so don't think that counts.
But I'd like to see the source of this information, for other unrelated reasons.
and I agree that sex is made out to be far too important in the Christian world.
I don't think that the bible or any other Judeo/Christian text even mentions it other than the Jewish tradition of f**king a girl threw a hole in a sheet, which sounds pretty kinky but would probably take a lot of the fun out of it.
I don't remember Jesus saying "Thou Shalt not bop thy baloney",
Sure, maybe it would be inappropriate to do it in the middle of church service but think that all the sex related stigma of Christianity has no biblical bases and was all done by the Catholic Church.
I'm under the opinion it was for population control but I'm more than willing to accept the idea that it was to stimulate penance collections.
But I guess it could easily be found out just by looking it up online somewhere, how the whole thing got started. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out why.
But jewelz5, I told you, most of the priest molesting little boys are Jews in disguise.
They join Christian churches to hide their sins and pull down Christianity from inside. If they get caught everybody will blame the Christians and they'll just say that the Christian god will "forgive" them for diddling all those little kids.
Trust me, I know, I went to Notre Dame for 10th grade in the heart of Rome, just a stones throw away from the Vatican, well until I got expelled for telling Brother Falcone to "F**k off".
I always thought it was strange that all the brothers were Gay Jewish men with psychology degrees, now it makes more sense I guess.
| | 5/3/2008 8:39:15 AM | Nice little earner – The pimping Church | | 
scorpiomoon
Brattleboro, VT
age: 59
| My personal opinion is that Faith or Religion isn't something that has to scare you into submission, or belief. It shouldn't be something that you fear, and it shouldn't have an agenda. After years of investigating organized religions, I think I have come full circle. I started out as a young child in a protestant church. The church told my dad he wasn't giving enough of his income to them.....we stopped going. (dad was a very proud man) When I got older I realized I was uncomfortable with the male references to God. He, Him, the Father, the Son, His kingdom.....Where the heck was the female reference? Well, the Virgin Mary...but we only heard about her on Christmas.Mary Magdaline was a prostitute, and Eve was bad because she ate from the forbidden fruit. The females weren't real good role models! So....when I heard my dad refer to Mother Nature.....it was a whole new door opening for me. To make a long story short. I worship the SUN..not the SON. Without it nothing would live. It provides me with most all I need to survive. I don't have to dress up to worship it, it doesn't make me feel guilty, or ashamed. The SUN and MOTHER NATURE they are my religions...and my faith. And I have never felt so AT HOME in my life. 
[Edited 5/3/2008 9:02:31 AM]
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