| 5/15/2008 3:30:08 PM | Insight into the "religious" mind | | jrbogie
Red Bluff, CA
age: 59
| The vatican has a chief astronomer? Yeow.
| | 5/15/2008 8:58:19 PM | Insight into the "religious" mind | | 
lees224
Cohoes, NY
age: 51
| Now maybe someone can listen to what I said about the star formation that happens on Sept.11th as I have said,its been there for more than man,has been here..Ok maybe I should contact the vatican with my info..I have told people for like 20 yrs,that there was an importance of this date,but until 2001 I didnt really know why..hhhmmm
| | 5/15/2008 9:03:35 PM | Insight into the "religious" mind | | leadingman1
Lake Dallas, TX
age: 18
| Is this what your describing...
Characteristics of Current Star Formation in the 30 Doradus Nebula
ABSTRACT. The extensive "second generation" of star formation within the 30 Doradus Nebula, evidently triggered by the R136 central cluster around its periphery, has been imaged with the Near-Infrared Camera and Multi-Object Spectrometer (NICMOS) on the Hubble Space Telescope. Many new IR sources, including multiple systems, clusters, and nebular structures, are found in these images. Six of the NICMOS fields are described here, in comparison with the WFPC2 images of the same fields. Knots 1–3 of Walborn & Blades (early O stars embedded in dense nebular knots) are all found to be compact multiple systems. Knot 1 is shown to reside at the top of a massive dust pillar oriented directly toward R136, whose summit has just been removed, exposing the newborn stellar system. Knots 1 and 3 are also near the brightest IR sources in the region, while parsec-scale jet structures are discovered in association with Knots 2 and 3. The Knot 2 structures consist of detached, nonstellar IR sources aligned on either side of the stellar system, which are interpreted as impact points of a highly collimated, possibly rotating bipolar jet on the surrounding dark clouds; the H2O maser found by Whiteoak et al. is also in this field. These outflows from young massive stars in 30 Dor are the first extragalactic examples of the phenomenon. In the field of the pillars south of R136, recently discussed in comparison with the M16 pillars by Scowen et al., a new luminous stellar IR source has been discovered. These results establish the 30 Doradus Nebula as a prime region in which to investigate the formation and very early evolution of massive stars and multiple systems. The theme of triggered formation within the heads of extensive dust pillars oriented toward R136 is strong. In addition, these results provide further insights into the global structure and evolution of 30 Doradus, which are significant in view of its status as the best resolved extragalactic starburst.
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| | 5/16/2008 10:19:41 AM | Insight into the "religious" mind | | skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| "It is ironic that our great western civilization, which has opened to the minds of all mankind the infinite wonders of a universe of untold billions of galaxies should be saddled with the tightest little cosmological image known to mankind? The Hindus with their grandiose Kalpas and their ideas of the divine power which is beyond all human category (male or female). Not so alien to the imagery of modern science that it could not have been put to acceptable use."Joseph Campbell.
make up any nonsense concerning the positions of stars and with the possibilities involved and in enough time, someone will find proof of their nonsense.
| | 5/16/2008 1:09:13 PM | Insight into the "religious" mind | |
lees224
Cohoes, NY
age: 51
| yes Skunk it is true that man also named the constilations,and formations,but yes YOUR MORE MATURE,but heck your not that old,were you there when someone came up with these constilations names..I dont think so,so how do you know they werent inspired by God too.I dont know for sure I live in this time,I know what I have seen in the stars and in the Word,they match up to the horrible things that happened on Sept..11th 2001 many thousands of years after this story..Oh and though I have told people this for 20 something years,people think Im nuts,but I dont care,I still have faith,and I am a very logical,person,not easily swayed at all..definatly need proof to a fault..And have seen many miracles in my life to KNOW....
P.S Can You leave slimey out again..Not all who say there are christians are the same,by the way if your going to categorize,it would be more like the Religious Christians who seem to be more like what you try to put a judgement on..And by the way I am not religious,I am not any religion at all..I am christian,which is a life style,life choice,as of all 20 something religions I have experienced,they are all not for me,close but Not Right..And I can not conform to Their Beliefs,I will not be subject to their actions,what they have done to others..That is not me,there is much I do not believe in about there interpretations,and I believe they are not getting what the message is..
AND after many years this may sound strange but listening to Strings,though he says he is not christian,he is like one of the MOST Christian,real man,I have heard, trying on a daily basis,though not perfect,yet trying to be a Man with a vision of how Jesus was trying to teach us to be,and act..And I see him as (almost)in many ways as my brother,my twin(ok not really but)he and I in so many ways believe alike. He does, try daily to show,and experience Peace and Love..and so do I and it is not slimey love and The message of Jesus was not slimey..And Yes I too have experienced lots of yuckey people who profess to be religious,but not all people are alike in every way,not all people are exactly alike in anyway.lee
| | 5/16/2008 2:59:03 PM | Insight into the "religious" mind | | skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| lee, you are getting better at writing and putting your thoughts in print.
Your arguments are, for the most part, fallacious with bits and pieces of thoughtful observations.
You have chosen to associate yourself with "christians" and therefore must come under the broad brush that i sweep with for expediency, for my own purposes. If you are the one true christian that mythology holds to exist, then consider yourself collateral damage, much like the civilians who suffer under the violence and atrocities of american crusaders!
The same goes for slimy love!...Your association with those who practice the most slimy rubs off on you and your words and actions demonstrate that, and the double talk of Yahshua could be considered slimy, if it is all correctly written.
Atheist, agnostics, jews, muslims and all other religions have suffered directly and as collateral damage from christian attacks for a long time. Stick you head back in the sand and pretend that you are not part of it. But, quite frankly , with your head in the sand and doing the dance around christianity's perverse bible, history, and current assortment of beliefs, while trying to hold up a sign saying ,"I am different! I have done nothing evil!, is a common enough practice and really nothing special. It is a product of the religious mind...Keep your fantasy, i don't want it. I will warn people about what you teach, but if they have a religious mind they will be susceptible to your indoctrination...And you can take pride in that spiritual assault upon those weak minds.
But, you can not manipulate this one...Again, if you(OR ANYONE) find my position painful, do not read my posts...Wallow with the bible wallowers!
Yes, strings is an exceptional person...There are several here at dh that are exceptional in their own ways....Maybe even some with their heads in the sand while dancing..How short is your skirt?!...
| | 5/16/2008 2:59:24 PM | Insight into the "religious" mind | | 
curiousone2
Springfield, IL
age: 42
| I agree with you about Strings Lee, But I see a similar thing in skunk.
The difference between the two is( as noted by me)
Strings accepts automatically almost,
skunk ( like me) Questions automatically, Skunk and I value the truth.
Strings accepts all things.
Oceans, on the other hand, questions like skunk and I but doesn;t react like us.
He is more Buddha like, he waits, He is far more patient than I.
To me skunk is Like Huck Finn.
I actually have a similar version of you, but you are more elisa doolittleish.
Innocent, Pure hearted, but passionate.
Polly Purebred, but I mean that in the best sort of context.
| | 5/16/2008 4:00:06 PM | Insight into the "religious" mind | | 
stringsvrs
Syracuse, NY
age: 51 online now!
|  This is from 9/11/2001 in and near the Andromeda constellation and is an incredible view!
I am awed by such things 
Even the stars are gazing upon us and influence us as the moon...JMHO
I do have my eyes on you children  when time permits that is
Play nice and hold thy tongues 
Peace and Love
| | 5/16/2008 8:11:24 PM | Insight into the "religious" mind | | raven622
Fairview Heights, IL
age: 48
| hmm...kinda looks like an abstract dove...strings
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| | 5/16/2008 9:02:09 PM | Insight into the "religious" mind | | jrbogie
Red Bluff, CA
age: 59
| Now maybe someone can listen to what I said about the star formation that happens on Sept.11th as I have said,its been there for more than man,has been here..
There were stars before there was man?
| | 5/16/2008 11:28:04 PM | Insight into the "religious" mind | |
lees224
Cohoes, NY
age: 51
| ok I did find something interesting about the 2 constelations I have talked about in Rev 12:1-5 http://www.atam.org/BirthingoftheManChild.html...Strings check this out..lee
| | 5/16/2008 11:36:55 PM | Insight into the "religious" mind | |
lees224
Cohoes, NY
age: 51
| ok I did find something interesting about the 2 constelations I have talked about in Rev 12:1-5 http://www.atam.org/BirthingoftheManChild.html...Strings check this out..lee
jr,skunk,curious,look at this link these constelations are talked about on Sept.11 th 1999,and am still looking for it on sept.11 2001.it happens every couple of years,I found that info like 20 yrs ago through some studies,but this writter used the date of 1999..and these constelations are Bethulah,Bernices hair,Lavanah,const.of draco the dragon..
| | 5/17/2008 5:34:22 AM | Insight into the "religious" mind | |
stringsvrs
Syracuse, NY
age: 51 online now!
| Good Morning Sister Lees
I did check out the link and I love all the starry colors too
Although that is not the link I visited many months ago it does provide in writing what I witnessed visibly in the star positions of 2001 on September 11th.
On your link they describe a virgin symbol in the stars giving birth to a man child. This virgin is the Andromeda constellation and it will be encompassed with the House of Bread constellation, over the House of Bread on our planet; which is that of Jerusalem in Israel.
Bringing in the solar equinox of Aquarius, the Out-pouring of spirit from Creator to inhabitants of Earth especially since we have a realization of life energy in this dimension of which we exist and acknowledge as life. This may be taking place in the year 2050.
However, every time this conjunction takes place it does bring with it a realization of events to take place as validated throughout history past. Deny it all you wish, it does not change the facts that it takes place and precedence over all our knowledge(s).
Thanx for Sharing
Peace and Love
| | 5/17/2008 5:39:12 AM | Insight into the "religious" mind | |
stringsvrs
Syracuse, NY
age: 51 online now!
| Brother Raven
raven622
Fairview Heights, IL
age: 47
hmm...kinda looks like an abstract dove...strings
I have an overactive imagination perhaps, but I envision this to be an abstraction of an angry and hungry dragon with its mouth open to devour and sate its hunger. JMHO
Peace and Love
| | 5/17/2008 7:54:50 AM | Insight into the "religious" mind | | skunkbreath
Saint James, MO
age: 89
| I looked at site and read a few paragraphs...Typical "religious" mind stuff, illogical conclusions and pandering to magical thinking.
The ignorance of the myth's origin allows religious minds to run off into such nonsense as celestial "signs". It is more likely that celestial events are assigned names and stories of importance as a way to keep track of times and seasons...We really don't know why.
But that a spirit named Yahweh set it all up for this one tiny speck inhabited by mutants of that god is just absurd, and a great deal of imagination , desire, and neurotic need is required to believe such nonsense. This is no more than astrology wearing a smirk of religiosity.
"Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil."~Plato
"Is man one of God's blunders? Or is God one of man's blunders?"~Friedrich Nietzsche
"Faith: not wanting to know what is true."~Friedrich Nietzsche
"If one were to bring ten of the wisest men in the world together and ask them what was the most stupid thing in existence, they would not be able to discover anything so stupid as astrology."~David Hilbert
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