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4/28/2008 8:17:28 PM	take back america!
1pinkstar Omaha, NE age: 55	Anchor Babies Cost U.S. Taxpayers over $118 Billion Every Year. The estimate of the annual cost to provide government services, such as food, education and health care, to these families is $118 Billion. The Alabama Federation of Republican Women wants to take away the citizenship of babies born to illegal immigrants in the United States. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cristobal Silverio emigrated illegally from Mexico to Stockton, Calif., in 1997 to work as a fruit picker. He brought with him his wife, Felipa, and three children, 19, 12 and 8 – all illegals. When Felipa gave birth to her fourth child, daughter Flor, the family had what is referred to as an "anchor baby" - an American citizen by birth who provided the entire Silverio clan a ticket to remain in the U.S. permanently. But Flor was born premature, spent three months in the neonatal incubator and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, oldest daughter Lourdes married an illegal alien gave birth to a daughter, too. Her name is Esmeralda. And Felipa had yet another child, Cristian. The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two "anchor babies." While President Bush says the U.S. needs more "cheap labor" from south of the border to do jobs Americans aren't willing to do, the case of the Silverios shows there are indeed uncalculated costs involved in the importation of such labor – public support and uninsured medical costs. In fact, the increasing number of illegal aliens coming into the United States is forcing the closure of hospitals, spreading previously vanquished diseases and threatening to destroy America's prized health-care system, says a report in the spring issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons. "The influx of illegal aliens has serious hidden medical consequences," writes Madeleine Pelner Cosman, author of the report. "We judge reality primarily by what we see. But what we do not see can be more dangerous, more expensive, and more deadly than what is seen." According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system. "Anchor babies," the author writes, "born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability Income." In addition, the report says, "many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue, and Chagas disease." While politicians often mention there are 43 million without health insurance in this country, the report estimates that at least 25 percent of those are illegal immigrants. The figure could be as high as 50 percent. Not being insured does not mean they don't get medical care. Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1985, hospitals are obligated to treat the uninsured without reimbursement.... According to the report, between 1993 and 2003, 60 California hospitals closed because half their services became unpaid. Another 24 California hospitals verge on closure, the author writes. "American hospitals welcome 'anchor babies,'" says the report.... Anchor babies are citizens, and instantly qualify for public welfare aid: Between 300,000 and 350,000 anchor babies annually become citizens because of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside." Among the organizations directing illegal aliens into America's medical systems, according to the report, are the Ford Foundation-funded Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, the National Immigration Law Center, the American Immigration Lawyers Association, the American Bar Association's Commission on Immigration Policy, Practice, and Pro Bono, the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, the National Council of La Raza, George Soros's Open Society Institute, the Migration Policy Institute, the National Network for Immigration and Refugee Rights and the Southern Poverty Law Center.... Many illegals entering this country have tuberculosis, according to the report. ..."TB's swift, deadly return now is lethal for about 60 percent of those infected because of new Multi-Drug Resistant Tuberculosis. Until recently MDR-TB was endemic to Mexico. This Mycobacterium tuberculosis is resistant to at least two major anti-tubercular drugs.... Latent disease explodes later.... The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ascribed 42 percent of all new TB cases to 'foreign born' people who have up to eight times higher incidences apparently, 66 percent of all TB cases coming to America originate in Mexico, the Philippines and Vietnam." Other health threats from illegals include, according to the report: Chagas disease, also called American trypanosomiasis or "kissing bug disease," is transmitted by the reduviid bug, which prefers to bite the lips and face.... The disease also infiltrates America's blood supply... No cure exists.... Leprosy, also known as Hansen's disease... is endemic to northeastern states because illegal aliens and other immigrants brought leprosy from India, Brazil, the Caribbean and Mexico. Dengue fever is exceptionally rare in America... Recently, according to the report, there was a virulent outbreak of dengue fever in Webb County, Texas, which borders Mexico.... Polio was eradicated from America, but now reappears in illegal immigrants as do intestinal parasites, says the report. Malaria was obliterated, but now is re-emerging in Texas. The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons report includes a strong prescription for protecting the health of Americans: Closing America's borders with fences, high-tech security devices and troops. Rescinding the U.S. citizenship of "anchor babies." Punishing the aiding and abetting of illegal aliens as a crime. An end to amnesty programs.
4/28/2008 8:28:55 PM	take back america!
krupa1 Abilene, TX age: 40	Not quite sure what the problem is....This is the American melting pot....I thought America was comprized of many nationalities and legal statuses to make us the country that we are.....oooohhhh illegals.....there have always been illegals here. When troops from another country are in my town...I will have a problem with it. I know illegals who work hard, pay thier taxes..and try thier asses off to gain citizenship but, aren't gonna just leave because the gov't has thier head up thier ass..... I know far more natural born American citizens....who don't work...who don't pay thier taxes....who suck off the public tit....and think that they have the right to have every hard working mother fker pay in to support them....(They don't bat an eye if the money for thier up keep comes from Americans or illegals) This is America.....we all have the right to not like it....Then again....The hugely fked up mix of people is EXACTLY what made this country great. Take back America from who?...........The people who love this country so much that they are willing to do anything to be here and have the opportunity to better themselves?.....Glad our immigrant ancestors ignored those exact sentiments....
4/28/2008 9:08:00 PM	take back america!
1pinkstar Omaha, NE age: 55	Emigrant and Immigrants differ. Melting pot? Blah....There are some things that should not be stirred into the pot.
4/28/2008 9:15:25 PM	take back america!
krupa1 Abilene, TX age: 40	Yes....Emigrants are leaving....immigrants are comming.....not quite sure what right any of us have to say who should be welcomed....I know that I myself am not qualified to say who is welcome to be here...and who is not good enough to be in my presence. But, that is just me. I am just glad my grandparents weren't turned away....Glad you guys predecessors weren't turned away either. Made this country into a place that is good enough to break the law just for the chance for a better life.
4/28/2008 9:30:35 PM	take back america!
curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42	wow, I think citizenship tests are a great idea, so does that mean we get to evoke the citizenships of those people that are already citizens if they can't pass? should we feed them to Pinks dogs? lets start with you. question number 1. How many Senators are there? 2. What is the purpose of Declaration of Independence? How many queastions should we ask? So, if the pre-existing citizens fail the test a little, should we maybe just move them to the poorer part? maybe deny them wellfare? Illegals are not screwing you, corporate America screwed you, you were just so drunk with materialistic bliss you didn't notice until it was too late, now you are looking for a scapegoat to blame. Your stuff wasn't that great anyway, the garbage dumps are full of it.
4/29/2008 6:48:56 AM	take back america!
wildgypsy Bellevue, WA age: 89	lust "I never looked at another person and said to myself " Hey that person is doing wrong .how can I stop this?" And me, I have hauled 5 boys off one when they were beating the hell out of him. You may be able to walk away from the ugly, I prefer to eliminate it when I can. "gypsy-they are not buying mexican trucks ,they are american made.pink drives a pearl harbor honda and doesnt feel guilty." LOL Really? Might want to check the ones parked around here before you make a definitive statement like that LOL "SCW: Wouldn't make a difference. It would still be fake information." LOL Have you all forgotten that when it comes to posting false info on here, scw is the all time master? Of course he would assume what everyone else posts is fake. If not, I suppose this is where his overwhelming denial kicks in LOL Cracks me up how he keeps trying to side track threads about illegals and how much they cost by throwing in numbers about the war, as if one has anything to do with the other. Should actually be asking that the war go on forever if he doesn't want the troops to come back and help secure the border to keep his beloved little criminals out LOL njman, anybody can skew numbers and stats to make it look like they support their cause. I will never believe that we need them in any way shape or form. NEVER! pink, considering how many times all these facts have been posted, with the biggest difference is that the numbers just keep going UP as they continue to steal from us, how in the hell can there still be so many stupid people still thinking that they are a benefit to this country in any way? Why would anyone still be trying to defend them, when all they have are weak double standards to support their demands and crimes? Guess that is where you get back to "God must love stupid people, because he made so damned many of them".
4/29/2008 6:50:51 AM	take back america!
soulcitywalker Lexington, KY age: 49	"So, if the pre-existing citizens fail the test a little, should we maybe just"..... SCW:....take their voting rights from them. That sure would take a big swath of people posting in these forums.
4/29/2008 7:08:36 AM	take back america!
wildgypsy Bellevue, WA age: 89	LOL And you would be the first to go LOL
4/29/2008 9:51:04 AM	take back america!
flyingdutchman San Diego, CA age: 44
4/29/2008 10:35:11 AM	take back america!
jewelz5 Monteagle, TN age: 54 online now!	Americans love their captivity. There's no responsibility. When you're a captive, you don't have to make a decision about anything, though you have no Liberty. People don't want Liberty. Liberty is nothing but uncertainty. It's much easier to have someone tell you where you'll be, what you'll do and who you'll pay tomorrow, than to worry about it yourself. The same goes for what you think. Since everyones liberty is so uncertain to them, most will continue to buy the fear from the government sponsored terrorism being dished out on the American people and readily consent to trade priviledges for benefits that big daddy offers, volunteering their rights away under the guise and pretense of having more security to feel safe and protected from the made up boogeyman and consider it a small price for having to loose their freedoms. Then complain about their privacy being invaded, even though accepting it as a normal way of life because they have been conditioned through gradualness slowly and systematically over a long period of time to be obedient god fearing slaves because most peoples god is their government.
4/29/2008 10:46:21 AM	take back america!
curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42	I agree we should take back america, from the corporations. I don't think it is an aqccident that there is a resurrgence of the values of the Founding Fathers. Finally we can shut up all of those false prophets of Greed and Power, and bring real values back to America. Maybe the ones laid out in the Constitution that says all beings that are created have certain inalienable rights, that they cannot give up, and cannot be taken away from them. It means you have te choice to NOT participate in the screwed up system, and shouldn't if you don't support it. You will be called names, and probably even physically abused, but It is your right, and Obligation to do what is RIGHT. If you people really think denying other humans livelihood, You are disgusting, and NOT americans. and you should be relegated to the place in society that you deserve.
4/29/2008 10:46:51 AM	take back america!
burgerkinger Canton, MI age: 28	In a nutshell--Apathy. People have it too good. They are busy voting for American Idol, meanwhile they probably couldn't tell you who their two Senators are. For the most part, I blame the taxpayer funded educational system
4/29/2008 10:48:20 AM	take back america!
curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42	Again with the Anchor baby bull. that is dusgusting, there are alot of "anchor babies" in harms way right now to protect your right to sit in judgment of their lives and value. I see you are practicing Christians
4/29/2008 10:55:38 AM	take back america!
curiousone2 Springfield, IL age: 42	I don't blame the taxpayer funded educational system, I blame the Intention of the tax payer educational system, which is to babysit and produce factory workers and farmers in a country that has NO factory jobs and the farmland is owned by a small few. and then I have to blame myself, and all of you, for accepting this as ok. for not forcing our government to use our money wisely, what do we want our governments function to be? to provide for education, healthcare,infrastructure, roads, bridges, defense. taxation is how they are supposed to be doing it, but they are misusing the dosh. Insurance companies broker our healthcare, if everyone has healthcare why will it need to be brokered? why do we want our healthcare based on a system designed to make money for investors? It is supposed to be about healthcare. we should add a public system, and keep the private one, the problems in the UK system would be solved by adding our to theirs, it would function in the same market as the private system, and create competition We need to do the same with the public education system, and we should combine all of these things together, as a Life center, and they should educate and care for us throughout our entire lives, they should be places we go to stay healthy, and to learn what we need to learn. If private corps want to compete, great, it will only make more competition.
4/29/2008 10:58:15 AM	take back america!
burgerkinger Canton, MI age: 28	Curiousone likes to blame corporate America for the fleecing of America's entitlement programs, such as Medicare, Medicaid, public education, social security. Nah, its not ILLEGAL aliens taking advantage of these programs. , all the while not paying taxes. Its the corporations, ya know, the ones that provide us with jobs, contribute to your increased standard of living, etc. that are at fault. Liberal logic at its finest.