| 4/29/2008 11:00:10 AM | take back america! | |  curiousone2
 Springfield, IL age: 42
| The estimate of the annual cost to provide government services, such as food, education and health care, to these families is $118 Billion. The Alabama Federation of Republican Women wants to take away the citizenship of babies born to illegal immigrants in the United States.
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First of all, I doubt this is true, but lets say it is, and 118 Billion dollars are paid out to provide government services for Illegals,
this 118 Billion goes back into the economy, so it benefits everyone, they arent buying healthcare in Mexico, or food, or clothing, or education, it stays in our system.
Your point is more fear mongering, you have enough, stop worrying about what others have.
Try reading the Parable of the workers in the vineyard, Matthew 20:1-16
| | 4/29/2008 12:28:56 PM | take back america! | |  chinatown_girl
 Oyster Bay, NY age: 19
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| | 4/29/2008 4:38:05 PM | take back america! | |  soulcitywalker
 Lexington, KY age: 49
| Senator Jon Kyl is a crook and a liar. See crooksandliars.com
This Week: Senator Kyl Says It’s The Democrats In Congress Who Are Hoover-Like, Not Bush
By: Nicole Belle on Sunday, March 23rd, 2008 at 4:00 PM - PDT
It is a universal rule observed by all Republicans time and time again: repeat something over and over again, irrespective of its truth and by repetition, it becomes conventional wisdom, otherwise known as living in a post-fact society.
So in discussing the state of the economy with Senators Chuck Schumer and Jon Kyl on This Week with George Stephanopoulos, when Schumer points out that the Bush administration policies of protecting corporate welfare, such as the Bear Stearns bailout, and ignoring consumer issues like the rising foreclosures has resulted in the worse economy since Hoover, Kyl lashes out and says it’s the Democrats in Congress who are like Hoover, not Bush.
I was wondering how long it would take my friend Chuck Schumer to blame the Bush Administration here. Of course, it wasn’t the Bush Administration so much as the Democrats in Congress who were pushing the lending institutions to get out there and lend more money even to unqualified buyers: to the minorities, to the poor, to the young.
So that everyone could own a home. The Bush administration was somewhat to blame for that as well. But Democrats in Congress were making that push. And as a result, a lot of people took loans who couldn’t qualify. In fact, they didn’t have to qualify. No money down. There was no credit reporting. And a lot of them, frankly, couldn’t afford it. So let’s don’t blame the Bush administration for this, and as to Hooverism, it’s Sen. Schumer and his Democratic colleagues who want to raise taxes like Hoover did when he refused to allow the Coolidge tax breaks to stay in effect and put in the Smoot-Hawley and they of course, are opposing the free Trade agreements that the President is trying to bring up. Let’s understand here the Bush Administration is trying to be pro-active on both the tax and trade fronts and it does not oppose some of the things Chuck talked about.
Um, huh??? The Democrats, who have only had a paper-thin majority since January of 2007 and couldn’t even get most of their bills on the table before that are the ones like Hoover? What are you smoking? Kyl blames the defaulters on their loans (those undeserving minorities and poor) and conflates that with free trade and taxes. And what on earth does the Smoot-Hawley TARIFF act have to do with the current crisis other than Smoot and Hawley were Republicans?
Hale Stewart looks and the pros and cons of the Fed’s actions last week in a far more intellectually honest way than Kyl does:
The central reason why the Federal Reserve acted like it did was to prevent a financial sector meltdown. While there is no way of knowing for sure there was a strong possibility that a Bear Stearns bankruptcy would have frozen the credit markets. This would have had chilling effect on the credit markets and could have frozen them solid. This could have sent the economy which is already teetering on the edge of recession (if it’s not already in one) into a very deep recession.
It’s important to remember that leading up to this event were signs of extreme distress in the credit markets. Auction rate securities — a primary way that municipalities obtain short-term funds — pretty much dried up over the last 2-3 months. Structures Investment Funds — SIVs for short — were experiencing the same problems. In effect, the Bear Stearns situation occurred at the end of a building problem in the credit markets. If Bear had failed there is more than a small likelihood that the end result would have been a much deeper recession than we will have.
On the con side, the Federal Reserve clearly bailed out a firm who’s own decisions were responsible for its downfall. Bear decided of its own free will to get involved in the hedge fund and mortgage market. That was a bad decision and they have paid the price. In a free market economy (which we’re supposed to be in) stupidity of this type is supposed to fall by the wayside by being unprofitable and therefore eventually going bankrupt. Some commentators have correctly noted that the Fed’s action essentially “privatizes the gains and socializes the losses” of the investment community. Finally the Fed’s action creates what economists call a “moral hazard”.
This simply means that by bailing out stupid behavior the Federal Reserve is essentially allowing it to happen again.
| | 4/29/2008 4:44:13 PM | take back america! | |  soulcitywalker
 Lexington, KY age: 49
| Senator Jon Kyl is a liar:
From: linknzona.blogspot.com
Senator Kyle Apparently Baffled by Reaction to His Betrayal
With all due respect Sen. Kyl, the reasons are obvious. You are a liar and a traitor.
You campaigned against amnesty and promised never to support it. Then, as soon as you were re-elected for 6 years you turned to Kennedy and the Democrats, not to the constituents who voted you into office, not to the Republican base who have supported you all these years, and to Mexico, not to the America you said you loved.
GOP says backlash in party due to Kyl
By Daniel Scarpinato
arizona daily star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 05.22.2007
PHOENIX — The head of the Arizona Republican Party launched criticism Monday at a U.S. Senate immigration compromise bill, saying the party base is "incensed" by the deal and, particularly, by Sen. Jon Kyl's involvement in drafting it.
"We have people coming in every day, tearing up their registration cards and throwing them on the floor, or coming in and changing their registration from Republican to independent," said party Chairman Randy Pullen during a press conference at the state headquarters in Phoenix.
Kyl defended his stance on the Senate floor, referencing criticisms from his Arizona constituents, noting in a chamber now controlled by the Democrats that it's necessary to work with them to get things done.
Kyl, whose Washington staff did not return late-afternoon phone calls, has said while he doesn't like every aspect of the bill, with Democrats now controlling Congress, the legislation is the best opportunity for action on immigration.
He reiterated that position Monday on the Senate floor, stating: "Of all of the criticism that I have received for being one of the sponsors of this legislation, the one that I don't quite understand from my constituents is, why would I sit down with Sen. (Ted) Kennedy," Kyl said, according to a transcript provided by his office.
"And what I've tried to tell them is, I understand your anxiety about sitting down with Sen. Kennedy, but on the other hand, in a body of 100 senators that are supposed to try to work together to find solutions to problems, do you not at least acknowledge that every now and then you have to sit down and talk to each other, even when you're on the other side of the aisle?"
Pullen said the bill is "10 percent Republican and 90 percent Ted Kennedy."
SCW: Hence...put that in *your* pipe, pink, and choke on it.
| | 4/29/2008 4:47:22 PM | take back america! | |  soulcitywalker
 Lexington, KY age: 49
| "this 118 Billion goes back into the economy, so it benefits everyone, they arent buying healthcare in Mexico, or food, or clothing, or education, it stays in our system."
SCW: Good one, curious!!!
| | 4/29/2008 5:04:13 PM | take back america! | | godschild00 Abingdon, VA age: 43
| 2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called, by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
This is the ONLY way to take back America.
| | 4/29/2008 5:46:59 PM | take back america! | |  jake68me Phenix City, AL age: 46
| there are an estimated 10-20 million illegal immigrants in the U.S.,i don't know exactly how many of them are in the workforce but let's just say that half of them are. that means they are taking 5-10 million jobs away from AMERICANS. around my area the illegals are just about to take over the construction,which is my line of work,when they come in and take the jobs a hell of a lot cheaper than i can do them for it really hurts. i'm losing a lot of work because of it. if they take the jobs for 3-4 cent/square foot cheaper than my price that adds up to several hundred dollars.any self-employed contractor on here knows what i'm talking about.i work hard, i have 3 AMERICAN guys that work for me that work hard, we WANT to work and we do DAMN good work, so you can't say they get the jobs because americans don't want to work. anyone on here that is FOR illegal immigration needs to ask themselves "am i willing to take a huge paycut just to keep my job?" well, are you? that's what i'm being asked to do and that's why i'm against them! and to the poster that said that the money that the govt. uses on these illegals is going back into the economy,just how in the hell is free food,free medical services,etc...going back in our economy? when they get free food do they give some of it back? i don't know, explain it to me.
| | 4/29/2008 6:06:09 PM | take back america! | | jessie7856 Jupiter, FL age: 35
| I'm waiting for an all out riot throughout America.This is BS I agree the illegals are hurting my business also ( it is picking back up again )Their hurting everybody actually this upsets me.I can only hope something will happen or someone will do something about our state of affairs it's just sad.
| | 4/29/2008 9:20:30 PM | take back america! | |  1pinkstar
 Omaha, NE age: 55
| Now you are godschild? LOL--again, using the same ISP...but changed the city from Rural Retreat, VA? LOL....silly girl.
Sorry some of you doubt the facts, look them up. I'm sure the AL Women's Party will verify what I posted.
As for the Senator being a crook, well--that is only your opinion, and that does not matter to me.
I for one, am not approving anymore funding for anchor babies. In fact, I am going to collect all the data needed to prove to the powers that be (housing, IRS, caseworkers, and INS) that the parents of these anchor babies need to be shipped back to where they came from...and to make sure their housing benefits are cut, their medical coverage removed and their employers reported for hiring illegals.
Are you who disagree with this really Americans?
If we do not take back America, there will be no America to take back.
| | 4/29/2008 10:30:53 PM | take back america! | |  chinatown_girl
 Oyster Bay, NY age: 19
| i'd like to see what the country would look like without the contributions of black people, azns, latinos and with only land that they bought fairly from the native americans. would there even be enough land to make one state, lol.
| | 4/29/2008 10:34:33 PM | take back america! | |  1pinkstar
 Omaha, NE age: 55
| And I would like to see what it would look like if we gave it back to the Dinosaurs. Neither is going to happen, so why wonder?
| | 4/29/2008 10:48:41 PM | take back america! | |  flyingdutchman
 San Diego, CA age: 44
| this 118 Billion goes back into the economy, so it benefits everyone, they arent buying healthcare in Mexico, or food, or clothing, or education, it stays in our system."
SCW: Good one, curious!!!
On the contrary- not all of the proceeds stay in this country, in fact, it is estimated that more than one half of the money these illegal’s make goes back to Mexico.
Try calling Bank of America’s 24 hour automated phone system (teller) it blows my mind, aside from having to press #1 for English ~ going thru the prompts it finally states “To send money to Mexico press 8”
This however may vary State to State but I challenge if you dial the 661 area code in California you will here exactly that of what I stated.
| | 4/29/2008 10:58:12 PM | take back america! | |  flyingdutchman
 San Diego, CA age: 44
| WHAT COSTS MORE PER YEAR THAN THE IRAQ WAR?
For anyone who is STILL in denial.
Illegal Aliens Cause Massive Cuts For US Seniors
December 4, 2007
http://rense.com/general79/seniors.htm
I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following:
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12 The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States". http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
Total cost is a whooping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!
If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message, but on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, then forward it.
Snopes is provided for doubters:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
Social Security Change For 2008
The United States Senate voted to extend Social Security Benefits to Illegal Aliens even though they have not paid into the system, beginning in 2008. The following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.
Alaska: Stevens (R)
Arizona : McCain (R)
Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)
California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)
Colorado : Salazar (D)
Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)
Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)
Florida : Martinez (R)
Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)
Illinois : Durbin (D) Obama (D)
Indiana : Bayh (D) Lugar (R)
Iowa : Harkin (D)
Kansas : Brownback (R)
Louisiana : Landrieu (D)
Maryland : Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)
Massachusetts : Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)
Montana : Baucus (D)
Nebraska : Hagel (R)
Nevada : Reid (D)
New Jersey : Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)
New Mexico : Bingaman (D)
New York : Clinton (D) Schumer (D)
North Dakota : Dorgan (D)
Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)
Oregon : Wyden (D)
Pennsylvania : Specter (R)
Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)
South Carolina : Graham (R)
South Dakota : Johnson (D)
Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)
Washing ton : Cantwell (D) Murray (D)
West Virginia : Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting
Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D)
SEND THIS TO ALL YOU KNOW. THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION, UNLESS THEY DON'T MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS who didn't pay in a dime.
| | 4/29/2008 11:02:17 PM | take back america! | | allyours4now
 Glendale, AZ age: 36
| thanks for posting dutch. McCain, such the "conservative" isnt he? 
| | 4/29/2008 11:03:54 PM | take back america! | |  flyingdutchman
 San Diego, CA age: 44
| thanks for posting dutch. McCain, such the "conservative" isnt he? 
YES HE IS LOL!
By the way ~ I grew up in Arizona, (Phoenix, Glendale, Paradise Valley, Snobsdale, Mesa, Tempe, Williams, and Payson, Sh!t I was a vagabond LOL!) so I have watched his political career for many years...
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