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10/10/2014 9:17:59 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Please Google the following withOUT the hash tags, and ask yourself, are you truly awake?
# 20120251502A1
# CA2741523A1
# 8124101
this might get me kicked off dh but i had to post this this will blow you away




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10/10/2014 9:19:35 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
naturebiy
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Please dont let it be whitey *crosses fingers*

10/10/2014 9:22:06 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from naturebiy:
Please dont let it be whitey *crosses fingers*
google and see

10/10/2014 9:22:13 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
settee_m
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Conspiracy theories? Really?

10/10/2014 9:22:25 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
mustangwriter
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Didn't google but I'm sure it has to do with big pharma.

10/10/2014 9:22:36 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

missgioia
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Human Ebola Virus Species and Compositions and Methods Thereof
US 20120251502 A1


Abstract


Compositions and methods including and related to the Ebola Bundibugyo virus (EboBun) are provided. Compositions are provided that are operable as immunogens to elicit and immune response or protection from EboBun challenge in a subject such as a primate. Inventive methods are directed to detection and treatment of EboBun infection.



Please read the above abstract carefully. The patent isn't for the virus. The patent is for a vaccine to prevent the virus from killing people.

10/10/2014 9:23:20 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from settee_m:
Conspiracy theories? Really?
this cantvbe faked facts are facts all you need do is google

10/10/2014 9:23:33 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
jeepers10
Hillsborough, NC
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yeah, we already fully went over this

10/10/2014 9:24:08 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
morse81
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I'm tired. I'm awfully tired.

10/10/2014 9:24:48 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from missgioia:
Human Ebola Virus Species and Compositions and Methods Thereof
US 20120251502 A1


Abstract


Compositions and methods including and related to the Ebola Bundibugyo virus (EboBun) are provided. Compositions are provided that are operable as immunogens to elicit and immune response or protection from EboBun challenge in a subject such as a primate. Inventive methods are directed to detection and treatment of EboBun infection.



Please read the above abstract carefully. The patent isn't for the virus. The patent is for a vaccine to prevent the virus from killing people.
where is this vaccine ?tt they claim to be just testing ut this was filed in 2008

10/10/2014 9:25:03 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
ginnytx
Pearland, TX
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planning on making and weaponizing any are you? *hellooooo testing one, two three...are y'all listening to this..sh*t"

10/10/2014 9:25:13 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

missgioia
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Quote from 1darksavior:
this cantvbe faked facts are facts all you need do is google


You belong in the emotional manipulator thread

10/10/2014 9:25:27 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from morse81:
I'm tired. I'm awfully tired.
might be ebola

10/10/2014 9:26:05 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
morse81
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Quote from 1darksavior:
might be ebola
I'm tired and it's alot of baloney

10/10/2014 9:26:41 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

calblueray
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Microsoft owns it?

10/10/2014 9:26:46 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

missgioia
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Quote from 1darksavior:
where is this vaccine ?tt they claim to be just testing ut this was filed in 2008


Do you know anything about research and vaccines?

Do you not realize it takes years, and years. Especially before human testing.

But, you don't care about any of that. You just want to promote conspiracy

10/10/2014 9:27:07 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from missgioia:
You belong in the emotional manipulator thread
yep thats what i am doing manipulating minds to open up or wake up

10/10/2014 9:28:33 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from missgioia:
Do you know anything about research and vaccines?

Do you not realize it takes years, and years. Especially before human testing.

But, you don't care about any of that. You just want to promote conspiracy
you do know ebola hit 19976 around the same time as aids ?

10/10/2014 9:30:01 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
jeepers10
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Quote from 1darksavior:
where is this vaccine ?tt they claim to be just testing ut this was filed in 2008


filed for research in 08, they'd been working on it since the 80s

it's not yet approved for use in humans, biggest problem being there's multiple strains of the virus. the current is a Zaire strain believed to have burned itself out 10 years ago

10/10/2014 9:30:25 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
settee_m
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So, you're theory is the US owns ebola and is beginning to use it on her people, right?

Just say it....you think the US is infecting her people with ebola...

10/10/2014 9:31:08 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

missgioia
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Quote from 1darksavior:
yep thats what i am doing manipulating minds to open up or wake up


You're being irresponsible

You are pointing at people trying to develop treatments and vaccines, and declaring them an ominous conspiracy

You are contributing to the problem. You are potentiallyharming people who need help.


You are no hero. You are a small little man, who creates dissent to feed his ego.

10/10/2014 9:32:10 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from settee_m:
So, you're theory is the US owns ebola and is beginning to use it on her people, right?

Just say it....you think the US is infecting her people with ebola...
it would not be the first timebut this is a world thing not just usa and its not a black thing its a poor thing

10/10/2014 9:34:01 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

missgioia
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Quote from 1darksavior:
you do know ebola hit 19976 around the same time as aids ?[/quote}





There have been many outbreaks of Ebola and other hemorrhagic fevers in the past.
I am quite familiar with the history.

The outbreaks have never been on the scale that they are now.


So, naturally, with the virus being as out of control as it is right now, research has stepped up.



[Edited 10/10/2014 9:34:19 AM ]

10/10/2014 9:35:53 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

missgioia
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Quote from missgioia:
You're being irresponsible

You are pointing at people trying to develop treatments and vaccines, and declaring them an ominous conspiracy

You are contributing to the problem. You are potentiallyharming people who need help.


You are no hero. You are a small little man, who creates dissent to feed his ego.



I think I'll just quote myself, because it's worth repeating.


Using other people's suffering to make yourself feel like a big man

10/10/2014 9:36:40 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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The Tuskegee syphilis experiment (/t?s'ki?gi?/)[1] was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African American men who thought they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.[1]

The Public Health Service started working with the Tuskegee Institute in 1932. Investigators enrolled in the study a total of 600 impoverished sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama. 399 of those men had previously contracted syphilis before the study began, and 201[2] did not have the disease. The men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance, for participating in the study. They were never told they had syphilis, nor were they ever treated for it. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for "bad blood", a local term for various illnesses that include syphilis, anemia, and fatigue.

you people act like the usa has not done this before , they gave indains blankets with small pox so why is it such a reach that they would spread ebola to slow the growth of a world they say is growing to fast an will not have enough food to feed us in 40 years.

10/10/2014 9:36:42 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
settee_m
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Just so I understand your conspiracy theory.... the United Nations owns ebola and plans to infect all the poor people of the world with it...

To what end?

How is what you're saying any different than what that shit stain haggatha promotes?

10/10/2014 9:37:38 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from missgioia:
I think I'll just quote myself, because it's worth repeating.


Using other people's suffering to make yourself feel like a big man
your a puppet

10/10/2014 9:38:32 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from settee_m:
Just so I understand your conspiracy theory.... the United Nations owns ebola and plans to infect all the poor people of the world with it...

To what end?

How is what you're saying any different than what that shit stain haggatha promotes?
The Tuskegee syphilis experiment (/t?s'ki?gi?/)[1] was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African American men who thought they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.[1]

The Public Health Service started working with the Tuskegee Institute in 1932. Investigators enrolled in the study a total of 600 impoverished sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama. 399 of those men had previously contracted syphilis before the study began, and 201[2] did not have the disease. The men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance, for participating in the study. They were never told they had syphilis, nor were they ever treated for it. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for "bad blood", a local term for various illnesses that include syphilis, anemia, and fatigue.

10/10/2014 9:38:39 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
sir_hugo_drax
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Quote from 1darksavior:
Please Google the following withOUT the hash tags, and ask yourself, are you truly awake?
# 20120251502A1
# CA2741523A1
# 8124101
this might get me kicked off dh but i had to post this this will blow you away


Why would this get you kicked off of DH?
For telling the membership that U.S. doctors and health organizations are working on vaccines for deadly viruses?



10/10/2014 9:40:55 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

missgioia
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Quote from 1darksavior:
your a puppet


No.

I am a responsible person who knows that fear mongering is the last thing needed in this situation.


You are using victims of a horrible disease to feed your own ego.

You care nothing of their suffering. You do this this to feel like a big man.

10/10/2014 9:41:16 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
settee_m
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I see you repeated an earlier post, but that hardly addresses my questions...

Here's another one: Why in 1932 do you suppose they ran those experiments?

10/10/2014 9:43:29 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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i am telling the truth you eat to much apple pie fact is the usa has done this to my people and test drugs in third world country

10/10/2014 9:43:53 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
lookfamiliar
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The last article I read said CDC owns it, and its patent, vaccines, and about 70% of different strains of ebola.

10/10/2014 9:44:25 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from settee_m:
I see you repeated an earlier post, but that hardly addresses my questions...

Here's another one: Why in 1932 do you suppose they ran those experiments?
no why did they only run them on black men ask it right

10/10/2014 9:44:35 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

photoartistguy
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Dont they teach you people to read?

10/10/2014 9:44:59 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

missgioia
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Quote from 1darksavior:
The Tuskegee syphilis experiment (/t?s'ki?gi?/)[1] was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African American men who thought they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.[1]

The Public Health Service started working with the Tuskegee Institute in 1932. Investigators enrolled in the study a total of 600 impoverished sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama. 399 of those men had previously contracted syphilis before the study began, and 201[2] did not have the disease. The men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance, for participating in the study. They were never told they had syphilis, nor were they ever treated for it. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for "bad blood", a local term for various illnesses that include syphilis, anemia, and fatigue.



Yes, 40 YEARS AGO, this happened.

And, because of this horrendous crime, laws were put in place to protect patients and study participants from this type crime.

These days, "Informed Consent" is required.


Why would you be so irresponsible to try to connect this 40 year old event with Ebola?

In fact, you are now criticizing pharmaceutical companies for not releasing the vaccine sooner. You are criticizing them for not fully researching a vaccine before using it on poor black people.

10/10/2014 9:45:47 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from photoartistguy:
Dont they teach you people to read?
us people run the country as in obama so knock the you people chit off punk



[Edited 10/10/2014 9:46:03 AM ]

10/10/2014 9:45:58 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

lovethelake17
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Quote from 1darksavior:
this cantvbe faked facts are facts all you need do is google


Ah. You also believe that you're gonna meet a French model, don't ya?


It would behoove you to learn a few things before you claim what you read on the internet as facts. Critical thinking. It's a good thing.

Research and development of drugs go through years of clinical testing, then start clinical trials on human subjects. Which, in turn, can take years more.

10/10/2014 9:46:55 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from lovethelake17:
Ah. You also believe that you're gonna meet a French model, don't ya?


It would behoove you to learn a few things before you claim what you read on the internet as facts. Critical thinking. It's a good thing.

Research and development of drugs go through years of clinical testing, then start clinical trials on human subjects. Which, in turn, can take years more.
The Tuskegee syphilis experiment (/t?s'ki?gi?/)[1] was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African American men who thought they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.[1]

The Public Health Service started working with the Tuskegee Institute in 1932. Investigators enrolled in the study a total of 600 impoverished sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama. 399 of those men had previously contracted syphilis before the study began, and 201[2] did not have the disease. The men were given free medical care, meals, and free burial insurance, for participating in the study. They were never told they had syphilis, nor were they ever treated for it. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the men were told they were being treated for "bad blood", a local term for various illnesses that include syphilis, anemia, and fatigue.

10/10/2014 9:49:35 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

photoartistguy
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Quote from 1darksavior:
us people run the country as in obama so knock the you people chit off punk


What's chit?

10/10/2014 9:49:43 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
sir_hugo_drax
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Christ...dude, you read it on the internet.
Does that sound like someone is trying to keep this information a secret?



10/10/2014 9:49:50 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
settee_m
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Quote from 1darksavior:
no why did they only run them on black men ask it right


Ahhh, sorry, I missed the African American reference...

So, this thread is effectively a race thread, the US, no, the world, is trying to kill off all the poor black people with the ebola virus...

Does that about sum it up? That's your theory? Why has it taken 3 pages just to get to what it is you're trying to say?

Don't be shy, just say it out loud and proud...

10/10/2014 9:50:14 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

lovethelake17
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Why are you linking that crime with the current crisis?

Learn a few things before you spout off. Gioia is right. You're fear mongering. You don't care about the people affected.

This is what happens with only a little knowledge, and not bothering to learn more.

10/10/2014 9:51:52 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

photoartistguy
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Op

Is stupid

10/10/2014 9:51:52 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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look i did my part by posting this so when you are laying i ed with ebola remember savior tried to help you

10/10/2014 9:52:55 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from photoartistguy:
Op

Is stupid
and your 25 lol

10/10/2014 9:57:03 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

missgioia
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Quote from 1darksavior:
look i did my part by posting this so when you are laying i ed with ebola remember savior tried to help you


Oh, now I know you are an egomaniac!

You? You think you have the ability to save people from Ebola with your fear mongering, and your pseudo scientific knowledge?

10/10/2014 9:59:12 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
settee_m
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Quote from 1darksavior:
look i did my part by posting this so when you are laying i ed with ebola remember savior tried to help you


Help me? I'm not black...


But just for the sake of argument, the US, no, the world, isn't being very efficient at this, are they....

There were white and Hispanic EMT and hospital employees, not to mention everyone on the airplane and at the airport, exposed...

Why would they do that if they were only interested in infecting poor black men?

10/10/2014 9:59:38 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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like i said i am trying to help take it and do what you will, but do not say you did not get the info, you are the type i could piss on and you would think it was raining

10/10/2014 10:01:09 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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Quote from settee_m:
Help me? I'm not black...


But just for the sake of argument, the US, no, the world, isn't being very efficient at this, are they....

There were white and Hispanic EMT and hospital employees, not to mention everyone on the airplane and at the airport, exposed...

Why would they do that if they were only interested in infecting poor black men?
your funny , you read and see what you want like i said this is not a black thing i was just showing you it has been done before.

10/10/2014 10:02:47 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
settee_m
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Your time and effort may be better spent emailing all the black men on DH, but be sure they are poor first....

10/10/2014 10:04:10 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
settee_m
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Quote from 1darksavior:
your funny , you read and see what you want like i said this is not a black thing i was just showing you it has been done before.


Then why quote the experiments on poor black men with syphilis from 1932? What was the correlation?

10/10/2014 10:04:48 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
settee_m
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Quote from 1darksavior:
no why did they only run them on black men ask it right


And this statement....

10/10/2014 10:07:51 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
sir_hugo_drax
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Quote from settee_m:
Your time and effort may be better spent emailing all the black men on DH, but be sure they are poor first....

Yes, and the "owner" of the virus should sue their poor asses for using his virus without permission...

10/10/2014 10:09:02 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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look hate me for trying to be your savior

10/10/2014 10:11:54 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
settee_m
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I don't hate you, savior, I just don't appreciate conspiracy theorists...or race threads...

Here's your tin foil hat...





[Edited 10/10/2014 10:12:19 AM ]

10/10/2014 10:13:29 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

1darksavior
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like i said i post to help you all

10/10/2014 10:16:47 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
bruceinsaginaw
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ebola came from dumb negroes in west africa eating bats

10/10/2014 10:21:50 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 
bruceinsaginaw
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Quote from 1darksavior:
us people run the country as in obama so knock the you people chit off punk



This is why whites hate blacks in this country. You people will never recover from the divide this socialist piece of shit.

as the great LBJ said:“I’ll have those n**gers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One

“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”—LBJ
Read more at http://patdollard.com/2014/02/flashback-lyndon-johnson-on-phony-war-on-poverty-ill-have-those-n**gers-voting-democratic-for-the-next-200-years/#evVt20Cft7hgW1Xz.99

10/10/2014 10:26:40 AMWould you like to know who owns ebola ? 

patriottype
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Quote from settee_m:
Just so I understand your conspiracy theory.... the United Nations owns ebola and plans to infect all the poor people of the world with it...

To what end?

How is what you're saying any different than what that shit stain haggatha promotes?
Population control and it will kill the poor inferior people first and its treatable just incase any decent people get it.