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10/27/2008 10:16:04 AMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 

curiousone2
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Quote from jayem:
Do aborted children go to heaven? Most will answer, yes. Then why are we so opposed to abortion if the unborn baby goes to a better place than this earth? I do not favor abortion and this question troubles me.



first of all, you are assuming there is a soul present, genesis says GOD breathed LIFE into us, so why would you assume we are alive before we have the breath of life in us??????

and IF, there is any soul there, That soul has not been BORN into anything, so any moron that would say, it would go to hell, is jus that, a moron, you have to be born, to die.

and third o all, we don't become sinful until we develop an ego. we don't become " human" and LIke GOD knowing good and evil until we have an ego.

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10/27/2008 2:55:23 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
sabellious
Wrens, GA
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Those man that would cause fetus to go to heaven ar ecalled butchers.The women who allowed the butchers to remove a life from their womb are called sluts.

10/27/2008 4:38:25 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
mtn_man_vail
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you have to be born, to die.


You also have to die to be born again

10/27/2008 4:43:16 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
raventalon
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10/28/2008 10:47:20 AMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 

curiousone2
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Quote from mtn_man_vail:
you have to be born, to die.


You also have to die to be born again


when you are in an egoic state, you are in a sinful state, which the Bible calls Death, Jesus resurrected people from a state of sin, to a spiritual life,

he enligtened them, they didn't literaly DIE and come back alive,

Jess says many many times, not to worry about THIS physical Life, Only about the spiritual life.

he says don't worry about the people that can kill your physical body, wory about the one that can kill your soul.

The part of you that would be tempted, and choose to consciously seek and identify with this physical life, rather than the spiritual YOU, is the ONLY one that can kill your spirital self. YOU have to abandon it, and reject it for things, and plasure, and want and need o die a spiritual death, your heart has to be callousedas jesus said..

unlss you are saying reincarnation?? and the YOU, you are refferring to, is the eternal soul, which again, doesn't ever die, since it is eternal. bottom line dead things, DO NOT raise from the dead, or come back to Life, they are NOT reborn from a dead physical being, even when one is "brought back to Life" there is stil part of them that is still alive., nothing dead comes back to life, ever.

so what, the important thing that we were supposed to learn from the Bible is that part of us is eternal, and it is up to us, to live for that eternal part of us rather than the dying part of us.

Jesus predicts a time will come, when we will do that. and he says before that can happen, we will have to destroy the world as we know and desire it.

or in other words, we have to reject the things of this world for things of the heart. I think it is in 2Kings where one of the prophets says that GOD listens to the heart of a person.



[Edited 10/28/2008 10:50:54 AM ]

10/29/2008 12:56:53 AMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 

wearp1
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Quote from jayem:
Do aborted children go to heaven? Most will answer, yes. Then why are we so opposed to abortion if the unborn baby goes to a better place than this earth? I do not favor abortion and this question troubles me.


to answer your question what makes abortion wrong is the fact that someone is taking a life, therefore playing God.

10/29/2008 2:05:19 AMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 

bigd9832
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Quote from seemonkey...
doesn't scripture say plainly (literally) Jesus beds Jezebel and kills her children?
sabe don't be a hater. hate the game.. not the player.


Ahhh, no, Scripture does not say anything about Jesus bedding Jezebel.

Are you nuts?

10/29/2008 2:29:58 AMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 

bigd9832
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Quote from stringsvrs...
Brother Big
My brother, you like so many other television evangelists who believe they know...Why is it that you evade the actions of the true message then?
Why do you fail to Love others as you want to be loved? Is this not the command that Jesus left and commissioned all of us to do? Why do you lack in the actions of this commandment then?
I have never viewed one of your posts that expound on Equality
I have never witnessed your posts in regards to ending domestic violence and wars
I have not witnessed any postings from you to ban the people together in the demand for equal medical or educational needs.
These are the types of evangelizing the bible speaks of. These are the types of actions that Jesus had done. These are the types of actions that the scribes, pharisees, Sadducee and evangelists lack in
Where is your boldness on the meat of these issues?
Offering your interpretation of words does not bring an inch toward world peace, Loving others in their need....etc....
Peace and Love


To compare me to a Television Evangelist is ludicrous at best. First of all, I am not on TV. Second, I am not an Evangelist. Third, I have nothing for you to join. I suppose it would be tantamount to comparing you to a crack wh*re or heroin addict. If you must make comparisons and/or create new sterotypes, at least try to observe some similarities?

You speak of love? The love of Jesus? What did He say about love...

John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

I know, what a pain. Not only are we commanded to love each other, but we have to learn how to love.

And you say that I "lack in the actions of this commandment"? Are you my judge? Were you sent here to judge me, and/or others here? Do you presume to love in such a perfect way, that you have finally shed your humanity, and set yourself up as judge? Do you think you are prefect?

You are critical of my posts. I somehow don't post to your satisfaction. Let me ask you something. Do you imagine that anything you have posted here has brought the world one inch tward world peace?

Does the phrase Delusions of Grandeur ring any bells?

Luke 23:31 For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry ?

10/29/2008 12:06:00 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
sabellious
Wrens, GA
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Butehers that kill babies will not be in heaven.Little sluts that have butchers kill, their babies will not be there either.

10/29/2008 3:26:51 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
mtn_man_vail
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Quote from curious......when you are in an egoic state, you are in a sinful state, which the Bible calls Death, Jesus resurrected people from a state of sin, to a spiritual life,



So with that, you mean if i have an ego, i'm dead?

Define ego..... if i think i'm a good person, isn't that having an ego?

10/29/2008 4:08:29 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
julietromeo
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"Butehers that kill babies will not be in heaven.Little sluts that have butchers kill, their babies will not be there either."


if people that use the word slut when referring to another person go to heaven then i dont want anything to do with the fanciful place. my moral values do not allow me to call others such names. did you derive your moral values from your religion? pathetic.



[Edited 10/29/2008 4:08:50 PM ]

10/29/2008 11:05:15 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
seemonkey
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people have been sentenced to prison for killing an unborn child.

I don't think parents have a right to kill their unborn child.

the sperm and egg are living cells.

here is my take on abortion... if a mother who's life is in danger wants to have an abortion she should... and she shouldn't ever be a mother.

as a parent I would give my life for my child... born or unborn.

they should be sterilized while the abortion is performed.

I would give my life for any child and for any believer in any higher power. should the situation call for it.
end of story.

10/29/2008 11:45:58 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 

bigd9832
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Everyone has an Ego. If you didn't have an Ego, you wouldn't even comb your hair, or change your clothes. That whole Ego thing is seldom understood.

10/30/2008 2:41:48 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
sabellious
Wrens, GA
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julietromeo,Yes mam I agree that you are pathetic.If you dont agree that little tramps that lay down and get pregnant out wedlock are sluts.Then you must also be one.Yes mam you are pathetic. I am sorry if the word slut is wrong with you, maybe you would prefer me to use biblical words, like harlot, jezebel, how about the word ''little wh*re''.Would these words be more to your liking.
A woman that lays down and gets pregnant out of wedlock is a wh*re.The man that lays with her is a wh*re monger. So if you dont like that ol well.Just deal with it.
Only sluts and dead beat mothers will off their babies.
Sorry if the truth offends you.The truth always does.

10/30/2008 4:28:49 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
bikerangel3
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The Judgements and Languge in this thread are sickening !! Judge NOT Lest YOU Be so Judged !!!

As the Father has said Suffer the little children to come unto me . I believe that starts at the moment His Divine Spark Creates Life so my answer is YES they do .

10/31/2008 3:12:28 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
sabellious
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Jezebel then dont judge you transvestite.

10/31/2008 3:57:33 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
bikerangel3
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I suggest Flagging Sab and All his hatefilled posts as this guy ??? is obviously in need of help not a date !

10/31/2008 6:47:10 PMDo aborted children, fetuses, go to heaven? | Page 2 
scorpiomoon
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Quote from bikerangel3:
I suggest Flagging Sab and All his hatefilled posts as this guy ??? is obviously in need of help not a date !
I stongly agree.....help needed for this guy!!