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8/15/2013 8:39:23 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,427)
Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


1. moral
2. ethical
3. legal
4. all of the above
5. none of the above


Do you believe the site moderators have a moral, ethical or legal responsibility for what occurs here on the forums?

After browsing a few threads, it appears that the forums have reached an all time, dangerously delusional high. Before the new owners of this site took over, there was real, yet imperfect, control. The block feature worked. Members were suspended. Members were deleted for valid reasons and banned from the site. Inappropriately dangerous threads were usually deleted.

That is no longer the case. These forums are dangerous, and members with real mental illness are being pushed to their limits. If something happens to one of these sick people, will the owners and moderators be liable? Is there any way to bring some kind of order and safety back to the forums?

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8/15/2013 8:45:25 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

stan_147
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (19,651)
Coos Bay, OR
53, joined Aug. 2010


Hard to believe that I'm saying this... but...

I miss Dustin's Little Sister!!! Dammitalltohellandbackandshit!



ETA: It's really a love/hate thing. That B_____ deleted some of my BESTEST work, EVAH!



[Edited 8/15/2013 8:47:08 PM ]

8/15/2013 8:46:31 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
metu
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (30,392)
Auburndale, FL
56, joined Apr. 2007


The site started going down the shitter with the advent of the phone app & it's gotten exponentially worse. And even though I'd like to think it's #4...the site is just a money generator...nothing more...nothing less. This is what happens when supposed "adults" are ASSumed to have the intelligence to govern themselves...

8/15/2013 8:48:43 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
guy_in_plano
Richardson, TX
52, joined Mar. 2013


They certainly don't have a legal responsibiliy. If anything, they have a lot of legal incentive to be very careful in what they moderate. Once they take it upon themselves to be responsible for the content posted here, they can possibly open themselves up to legal problems for the content that is posted here. The only obligation the moderators have is to carry out the wishes of the site owner.

If something happens to one of these sick people, will the owners and moderators be liable?

No, but the owners could make themselves liable by taking on the responsibility to decide who is ``sick'' and who is not. Legally, they're better off having no knowledge of what's posted.

8/15/2013 8:49:17 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

frgprnce
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,915)
Baltimore, MD
53, joined Dec. 2010


Unfortunately...I think the only way to solve it will be to disable it.

I don't think the moderators can do much about...besides deleting people or banning their accounts from the forums. The level of hate and discontent between some of the posters is beyond remedy...

8/15/2013 8:49:55 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

uneeklikeme
Fontana, CA
43, joined Jun. 2013


I have to vote none of the above as the moderators are probably not even employees of the site or get anything in return for the work and criticism they receive. All of the above is the site owners responsibility and if something were to happen I'm sure there will be attorney looking to sue this site. Facebook is always trying to cover their a** and the owners of this site should really take note that if a big powerful site like facebook has to cover their a** a smaller site like this better get with it before something does happen and they are held liable.

8/15/2013 8:52:02 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

uneeklikeme
Fontana, CA
43, joined Jun. 2013


Quote from guy_in_plano:
They certainly don't have a legal responsibiliy. If anything, they have a lot of legal incentive to be very careful in what they moderate. Once they take it upon themselves to be responsible for the content posted here, they can possibly open themselves up to legal problems for the content that is posted here. The only obligation the moderators have is to carry out the wishes of the site owner.

If something happens to one of these sick people, will the owners and moderators be liable?

No, but the owners could make themselves liable by taking on the responsibility to decide who is ``sick'' and who is not. Legally, they're better off having no knowledge of what's posted.


Pleading ignorance in court has NEVER worked.

8/15/2013 8:52:26 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

alexander3721
Over 1,000 Posts (1,717)
Albany, GA
60, joined Mar. 2013


There are moderators here? You're kidding, right?

8/15/2013 8:55:03 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

mrld_ii
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,775)
Stockton, CA
57, joined May. 2011


Regardless of anything else, and speaking only factually, the site owner(s) has/have a legal obligation, as is posted in their own Terms of Service, which was updated as recently as 6/13/13 (so they ARE aware they exist).

Legally-speaking, there is no such thing as a unilateral contract; any contract must have (at least) two parties to it each with responsibilities and rights within it...in this case, the Site Owner(s) and the Site User(s). The owner(s) has/have a legal obligation to enforce the ToS, as outlined, which includes:

no racial postings;

no fake profiles; and

no use of celebrity photos/copyrighted material, as well as a whole host of other legal obligations.


Will/can they be held responsible for any untoward actions taken to/at/by a member? No...they've built-in the necessary legal loopholes to exonerate themselves from that. Butttttt...



the terms which ARE most-notably violated repeatedly ARE brought to Customer Service's attention, both by the in-place flagging system AND by direct notifications via their email system.

They deliberately choose to ignore the systems they've put in place AND deliberately choose to ignore their contractual obligations.


The site owner(s) would do well (and should be well-advised legally) to pay attention to the Laws of Incorporation, especially those which apply to the State in which they currently - and/or inherited to - perform operations.


Meanwhile, it's *fun* watching the Site-Sponsored, Site-Supported Trolls take down the very site they've been brought in to keep afloat.

'Nuff said.




Morally and/or ethically should they be enforced? Well, now...that would just make smart business sense, if one wanted to stay in business,


no?







8/15/2013 8:58:07 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
hbca27
Over 1,000 Posts (1,732)
Huntington Beach, CA
36, joined Jul. 2008


Quote from bruce72765:
I'd say ethical and legal. They have a TOS they SHOULD enforce. Sadly they seem to be putting the almighty dollar ahead of their own rules.




Almighty dollar ?

Where are they earning money,other than ads?

8/15/2013 8:58:28 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

mrld_ii
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,775)
Stockton, CA
57, joined May. 2011


Quote from guy_in_plano:
They certainly don't have a legal responsibiliy...


Absolutely 100% incorrect.


Contractual Law is the most basic legal concept to argue/enforce; the ToS IS a most basic contract and, therefore, creates - most assuredly - a legal obligation and one that is easiest to prove has been broken.




8/15/2013 8:59:28 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
spookem
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,721)
Lexington, KY
61, joined Jan. 2013


Quote from cawk_asian:
OP,

Tits or GTFO.


......

8/15/2013 8:59:39 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
sirjohngalt
Winnipeg, MB
49, joined Aug. 2013


Unfortunately moderators are volunteers assuming there are moderators? its up to the owner of the site to restore law and order, I'm new on this site and I can say I'm disappointed big time, It seems that its like the wild wild west.

Legally nothing can be done people can say what they want unless they threaten to whack someone or talk about clipping someone important

8/15/2013 9:02:11 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,427)
Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from my2ndtimehere:
You can't blame others for being mean or pushing "crazy" people to their limits

if a person feels it's too much for them here, they can leave.......so they subject themselves to their own demise.....

I don't believe in that internet bullying bullshit....

the site owners can do as they please, and we, as posters can either like it, or leave


the site owners are NOT forcing us against our will to be here, read the forums, post in the forums, etc.... therefore they shouldn't be libel for shit..........

if enough people complain to the site owners and/or leave this site........it'll make them change how they do business or their business will fail......



Here is the portion of the Terms of Service that would apply to the forums:


"DateHookup.com Terms of Use Agreement


6. Content Posted on the Site.

(a) You understand and agree that DateHookup.com may review and delete any content, messages, forum posts, blogs, photos or profiles (collectively, "Content") that in the sole judgment of DateHookup.com violate this Agreement or which might be offensive, illegal, or that might violate the rights, harm, or threaten the safety of Members.

(b) You are solely responsible for the Content that you publish or display (hereinafter, "post") on the Service, or transmit to other Members.

d) The following is a partial list of the kind of Content that is illegal or prohibited on the Website. DateHookup.com reserves the right to investigate and take appropriate legal action in its sole discretion against anyone who violates this provision, including without limitation, removing the offending communication from the Service and terminating the membership of such violators. It includes Content that:

· is patently offensive to the online community, such as Content that promotes racism, bigotry, hatred or physical harm of any kind against any group or individual;

· harasses or advocates harassment of another person;"


You don't think they are responsible for upholding their terms of use?

8/15/2013 9:03:13 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

hsprin
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (19,308)
Savannah, MO
41, joined Jan. 2009


Yes, I would certainly say ethical and legal.

They can't control the idiots who came here but they can keep moderators on who do their job and if you post some many thread off subject you get suspended from posting a day or two or just have consequences.

8/15/2013 9:03:19 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
fun2bchattin
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (19,959)
Hedgesville, WV
50, joined Feb. 2011


I agree with points from both sides.....

8/15/2013 9:06:41 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
guy_in_plano
Richardson, TX
52, joined Mar. 2013


Quote from uneeklikeme:
Pleading ignorance in court has NEVER worked.

Apparently, you have no understanding of the issue nor the laws regarding content providers. For example, the phone company is not liable for what you say over the phone. Google is not responsible for providing search results that contain links to illegal content. Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (which was a provision that was NOT struck down), says:

``No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.''

(So much for your ``ignorance'' argument). A website that goes to great length to edit the comments of its users puts itself in the position of becoming a publisher and could possibly forfeit its immunity.

8/15/2013 9:08:26 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

luckovich
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,966)
White Plains, NY
38, joined Jun. 2013


Quote from klassy_klown:
Do you believe the site moderators have a moral, ethical or legal responsibility for what occurs here on the forums?


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8/15/2013 9:08:36 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,427)
Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from cawk_asian:
NO, it clearly states you are responsible...


d) The following is a partial list of the kind of Content that is illegal or prohibited on the Website.

Yet, they provide the venue AND allow it?

8/15/2013 9:11:51 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
mrlickzher
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (17,976)
Owensboro, KY
39, joined Mar. 2013


Geez..there is enough stuff to wrry bout, why wrry bout mods when u can go to a different thread or j7st sign off..even the racist shit dnt bother me...I hate whining and cryn more than the racist...rules suck.. less rules is better. .

8/15/2013 9:12:46 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
knight_on_horse
Dothan, AL
55, joined Aug. 2013


Be for warned.

I am new and have already found out that some of these hate posters have figured out a way to have someone deleted off the site. They band together and write customer service..

Like an army they do anything to stay together launching hate threads and posts again some posters who challenge them

I have seen a lot of the forums out of control, no discussions, no topics and for those that try to start a topic, the forum is taken over and it just becomes a chat room filled with garbage.

POF done away with their forums and for good reason. Racist remarks, hate, and so forth.

Its sad but the forums need to be deleted.

And you have to be very careful what you say. One morning you may find your profile deleted for no reason. And I who ever is doing this it is a decision based on Nazi mentality...

8/15/2013 9:14:19 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

mrld_ii
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,775)
Stockton, CA
57, joined May. 2011


Apparently, many of you have (deliberately?) overlooked this part:

"d) The following is a partial list of the kind of Content that is illegal or prohibited on the Website.DateHookup.com reserves the right to investigate and take appropriate legal action in its sole discretion against anyone who violates this provision, including without limitation, removing the offending communication from the Service and terminating the membership of such violators..."


Note that it says "is illegal or prohibited on (this site)" and then goes on to state what they can and/or may do when such an act occurs.

Contractually, they must not allow it...i.e., they must remove it - unless, of course, they allow illegal and/or prohibited activity on their site.


They MAY choose to prosecute, terminate, and/or ban people for performing said illegal and/or prohibited acts.


It does NOT absolve them of their OWN-STATED contractual obligation to remove said violations.



Basic Contractual Law 101.





[Edited 8/15/2013 9:14:58 PM ]

8/15/2013 9:14:20 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
ohdona
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,980)
Lansing, MI
49, joined Dec. 2011


Shut up cawk.


I agree Mr.lick.

8/15/2013 9:17:01 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,427)
Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from cawk_asian:
d) The following is a partial list of the kind of Content that is illegal or prohibited on the Website.

Yet, they provide the venue AND allow it?


Umm that's like saying a bar responsible if it's patrons kick off...it's not....the patrons fighting get arrested, not the bar owner...

To take your premise a little further..if the site owner was responsible for providing the 'venue'..then so would the web hosting sevice..and the US gov for inventing the internet.


Errrrr, bars are held responsible, especially if they serve extreme amounts of alcohol.


What if the members aren't mentally capable of being responsible for themselves? Isn't there then some accountability by the owners?

8/15/2013 9:17:30 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
mrlickzher
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (17,976)
Owensboro, KY
39, joined Mar. 2013


Quote from cawk_asian:
Quiet negro or it's the ban stick for joo...
u shut up or I will force u to show the women ur micro pecker&then u will be put in the corner in time out. ...now stay in ur place little man&close ur mouth nothing stench comes out of it...&thank u dona...

8/15/2013 9:18:38 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
guy_in_plano
Richardson, TX
52, joined Mar. 2013


Quote from klassy_klown:
d) The following is a partial list of the kind of Content that is illegal or prohibited on the Website.

Yet, they provide the venue AND allow it?

You don't seem to get it. They provide the venue like your phone company provides you the venue to communicate with others. They don't allow or disallow anything. To do that, they would have to monitor everyone's communications. They srem't in a position to allow or disallow anything UNLESS they do monitor your communications (ie., moderate).

8/15/2013 9:18:51 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

driver406
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (58,234)
Saint Paul, MN
65, joined Oct. 2009


A moral obligation? Probably not but they should enforce the rules of the site which they don't and definitely remove the tasteless, vulgar, rude and offensive posts.

8/15/2013 9:19:05 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

mrld_ii
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,775)
Stockton, CA
57, joined May. 2011


Whether a police officer gives you a speeding ticket or not does not change the fact that you are breaking the law when exceeding the speed limit.

And, yes...communities HAVE forced the body of the law charged with enforcing speed limits when they feel they've become lax in their enforcement.


"Speed traps" and "speed bumps" are just two examples of communities who've grown sick of the law enforcers' inability/unwillingness to enforce the laws OF the community.


But, even THAT is an example of a much more esoteric legal concept than the basics of Contractual Law.




8/15/2013 9:19:37 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,427)
Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from mrlickzher:
Geez..there is enough stuff to wrry bout, why wrry bout mods when u can go to a different thread or j7st sign off..even the racist shit dnt bother me...I hate whining and cryn more than the racist...rules suck.. less rules is better. .


Did you notice it was a poll? I was just wondering what other's thought. And, I'd rather discuss this than jump into the hateful, crazy shit.

8/15/2013 9:21:50 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,427)
Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from cawk_asian:
Errrrr, bars are held responsible, especially if they serve extreme amounts of alcohol.

ONLY if they do, the example I gave of patrons fighting..the bar is not responsible the for illegal activity of it's patrons..I'm going to say patrons one more time for effect.


What if the members aren't mentally capable of being responsible for themselves? Isn't there then some accountability by the owners?

No, a random adult is not responsible for another adult..only a caregiver might be held responsible...you know all this though..so why the stupid questions?...you been on the cooking sherry again?


If I was on the cooking sherry, I'd be seducing some hot black man, not trying to have a half-way intelligent discussion.

What the f**k are you doing on here at night anyway? Isn't past your bed time?



ETA: Thanks magoo, now I want a c*cktail.

8/15/2013 9:22:00 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

luckovich
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,966)
White Plains, NY
38, joined Jun. 2013


Did I miss the pissing contest?

8/15/2013 9:22:11 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

mrld_ii
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,775)
Stockton, CA
57, joined May. 2011


Quote from klassy_klown:
... What if the members aren't mentally capable of being responsible for themselves? Isn't there then some accountability by the owners?


No, the owners have (wisely) placed the necessary boiler-plate exclusions to exonerate themselves.

Besides, in Contractual Law only legal adults (18+) of sane mind and sound judgement may enter into such a contract;


someone unable to understand/control their actions is NOT bound to a contract as it was never entered into.




8/15/2013 9:23:00 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
guy_in_plano
Richardson, TX
52, joined Mar. 2013


Quote from klassy_klown:
Errrrr, bars are held responsible, especially if they serve extreme amounts of alcohol.

There are laws that address that specifically. The internet also is governed by laws, but apparently not the laws you would like.

What if the members aren't mentally capable of being responsible for themselves? Isn't there then some accountability by the owners?

The owners cannot decide that. To do so would be to practice medicine without a license.

8/15/2013 9:24:00 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,427)
Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from cawk_asian:
It's ok, me and asslicker won't hold you responsible for our sword fighting...


Can I watch on skype? I bet those would be a couple of impressive weapons.

8/15/2013 9:24:28 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
metu
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (30,392)
Auburndale, FL
56, joined Apr. 2007


Quote from my2ndtimehere:
meaning.............posters, don't do the follow.........because you can be held responsible

so it's illegal for YOU/US to post that illegal stuff they list.........it's not illegal for them to allow it



Then why even bother stating it in the TOS if they're not gonna enforce their OWN rules?

8/15/2013 9:24:31 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

luckovich
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,966)
White Plains, NY
38, joined Jun. 2013


Quote from cawk_asian:
Looking at the stain on your pants...yes.


Oh yeah, GIRL FIGHT!

Wait, you were looking at my crotch..?



[Edited 8/15/2013 9:25:00 PM ]

8/15/2013 9:25:55 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

uneeklikeme
Fontana, CA
43, joined Jun. 2013


Quote from guy_in_plano:
Apparently, you have no understanding of the issue nor the laws regarding content providers. For example, the phone company is not liable for what you say over the phone. Google is not responsible for providing search results that contain links to illegal content. Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (which was a provision that was NOT struck down), says:

``No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.''

(So much for your ``ignorance'' argument). A website that goes to great length to edit the comments of its users puts itself in the position of becoming a publisher and could possibly forfeit its immunity.


Hahaha...ask any judge about pleading ignorance. You are comparing apples to oranges. Facebook has teams for report reviews from the users. Why do you think they actually pay people to review reports 24/7? They remove content all the time that violate the community rules and will report credible threats of violence to the authorities rather than plead ignorance.

Most forums are monitored but monitoring a telephone calls is called wire-tapping and is suppose to require a warrant to do so, but the authorities and gov't do it all the time anyway which violates the citizens right to privacy. There is no real privacy online.

mrld_ii mentioned early about contractual law...you may want to look into that cuz I can guarantee you a court will not let you slide cuz you claim to be ignorant of what took place on a site you claim to monitor.

8/15/2013 9:27:42 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

mrld_ii
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,775)
Stockton, CA
57, joined May. 2011


Quote from metu:
Then why even bother stating it in the TOS if they're not gonna enforce their OWN rules?


DH would be in a much better legal position if they simply abandoned and erased their current ToS.


As is, they are in an extremely vulnerable position. *Odd* that their crackerjack legal department hasn't noticed.





8/15/2013 9:27:52 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
metu
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (30,392)
Auburndale, FL
56, joined Apr. 2007


I've often wondered if it hurt when an Englishman said "Ya'll"...

Agreed, Emmy...



[Edited 8/15/2013 9:29:00 PM ]

8/15/2013 9:28:11 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
twistedfaith
Over 2,000 Posts (3,021)
Pico Rivera, CA
58, joined Dec. 2011


what does whether or not the site is liable in any way have to do with me...

8/15/2013 9:28:42 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,427)
Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


So, they may not be criminally responsible, but what about in a civil court? If someone offs his or her self, and a family member sees where they were harassed, could they sue the site?

8/15/2013 9:29:28 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
guy_in_plano
Richardson, TX
52, joined Mar. 2013


Quote from metu:
Then why even bother stating it in the TOS if they're not gonna enforce their OWN rules?

Because it gives them the right to enforce rules when they determine that rules have been broken and it limits their liability for failing to enforce them when they don't know the rules have been broken. C'mon. This can't be that difficult to comprehend.

8/15/2013 9:30:27 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
e_llicit
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (30,920)
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
45, joined Apr. 2012


i enjoy this wild wild west world we dwell in.

8/15/2013 9:30:39 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
guy_in_plano
Richardson, TX
52, joined Mar. 2013


Quote from klassy_klown:
So, they may not be criminally responsible, but what about in a civil court? If someone offs his or her self, and a family member sees where they were harassed, could they sue the site?

There is lots of case law on this already if you care to look. In general, the answer is that it's very difficult to prove the elements required to win such a suit.

8/15/2013 9:31:30 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,427)
Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from cawk_asian:
Well one is, the other is more of a letter opener...so I heard.


The first clue was his screen name. We know what he is working with. Or without.

8/15/2013 9:32:26 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
pallazar
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,196)
Buffalo, NY
98, joined Jul. 2013


I challenge you to talk me into suicide.

8/15/2013 9:32:27 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
metu
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (30,392)
Auburndale, FL
56, joined Apr. 2007


Quote from guy_in_plano:
Because it gives them the right to enforce rules when they determine that rules have been broken and it limits their liability for failing to enforce them when they don't know the rules have been broken. C'mon. This can't be that difficult to comprehend.



No need to be condescending when replying to a rhetorical question...

8/15/2013 9:32:34 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

mrld_ii
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,775)
Stockton, CA
57, joined May. 2011


Quote from klassy_klown:
So, they may not be criminally responsible, but what about in a civil court? If someone offs his or her self, and a family member sees where they were harassed, could they sue the site?


Definitely new legal waters, which I'm sure someone will find worth their while to explore...


...especially with the social magnifying glass now placed on "online bullying".





8/15/2013 9:32:53 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
mrlickzher
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (17,976)
Owensboro, KY
39, joined Mar. 2013


Quote from klassy_klown:
Did you notice it was a poll? I was just wondering what other's thought. And, I'd rather discuss this than jump into the hateful, crazy shit.
I dont take this stuff to heart..and ppl like cawk-sucker just make their parents look bad, let him keep sloberin on hisself..hez a old shivel nut guy that forget to take his Halloween costume off..cant pay them types to much mind. ..his elevator needs repair...cool thread klassy...u cool in my book..

8/15/2013 9:33:26 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,427)
Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from cawk_asian:
Every day when I wake up and hear the police sirens outside my window instead of the sound of lambs playing in the fields...it hurts.


Okay Clarise.


RE: the civil case, but would they win?

8/15/2013 9:33:47 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
e_llicit
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (30,920)
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
45, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from pallazar:
I challenge you to talk me into suicide.


John, your penis will stop working tomorrow and you will develop a taste for anal sex you being the receiving party.

8/15/2013 9:35:57 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

mrld_ii
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,775)
Stockton, CA
57, joined May. 2011


Quote from guy_in_plano:
Because it gives them the right to enforce rules when they determine that rules have been broken and it limits their liability for failing to enforce them when they don't know the rules have been broken. C'mon. This can't be that difficult to comprehend.


It's not difficult to comprehend. And, on that one issue, you are correct.


However, you are (deliberately and repeatedly) ignoring the basic concept of Contractual Law.

The Contract was proffered the moment you saw the screen "Do you agree with the Terms of Service? Click 'yes' to proceed..."


and then went on to create your profile.


Yanno, the contract you entered into to be able to be here, now, claiming there is no contract and, ergo, nothing to enforce.


Really simple, huh?




8/15/2013 9:36:01 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
pallazar
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Buffalo, NY
98, joined Jul. 2013


Quote from e_llicit:
John, your penis will stop working tomorrow


Cool. It needs a vacay since I work that thing overtime.

8/15/2013 9:36:36 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
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Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from e_llicit:
i enjoy this wild wild west world we dwell in.


This is for you E. And the thread goes KABOOM! LOL



8/15/2013 9:38:19 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
e_llicit
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA
45, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from pallazar:
Cool. It needs a vacay since I work that thing overtime.
Yep, u can't talk him into suicide.

8/15/2013 9:39:18 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

mrld_ii
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Stockton, CA
57, joined May. 2011


Quote from klassy_klown:
...RE: the civil case, but would they win?


With a good lawyer who knows how to make a provocative argument AND within today's social climate?



Absolutely. If nothing more than a token amount of money.


I'm sure cases are working their way through the system, right now, as we type.



Maybe even involving DH. God knows there was a spate of "I'm going to off myself right now, right here" threads just a couple of weeks ago.


Evidence gathering?





8/15/2013 9:39:59 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
e_llicit
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA
45, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from klassy_klown:
This is for you E. And the thread goes KABOOM! LOL



come grind with me, klassy.

8/15/2013 9:40:12 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

klassy_klown
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,427)
Bakersfield, CA
49, joined Apr. 2010


LOL Not me mrld.

8/15/2013 9:41:55 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 
metu
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Auburndale, FL
56, joined Apr. 2007


Quote from klassy_klown:
Okay Clarise.





Heheh...that was my first thought as well...

Gotta get up early in the morning...I'm glad you opened this discussion, KK...I'll be interested to see if this thread is still here tomorrow...lol.

8/15/2013 9:42:20 PMAs a member of an online dating community, 

mrld_ii
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,775)
Stockton, CA
57, joined May. 2011


my2ndtimehere:"...it would require the assumption that the owners willingly ignored certain posts etc.....very hard to prove that the site owner had to have knowledge of the illegal activity"

Nope...actually, very easy to prove. Saved emails sent to Customer Service AND their very own flagging system,

designed to 'bring such infractions and violations to the attention OF the moderators', who ARE charged (on the owner's/s' behalf) TO take action.