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1/2/2015 10:02:15 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

joetville
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1. Yea
2. No
3. Maybe
4. Whatever


Atheists say faith cannot be proven so until "death."

Believers say faith has made their lives a truly, a way of a great life.




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1/2/2015 10:22:35 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 
clarencec
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I have faith that the sun will rise every day, and so far my faith has been rewarded, so I'd say yes, faith works if it's evidence based.

Perhaps faith in deities makes people happier and healthier, so may also be said to work in mysterious ways, just as the placebo effect works.

1/2/2015 10:35:17 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

jrbogie1949
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i can't imagine a sentence that would make any sense at all that contains the words, 'faith and proven.'

1/2/2015 10:35:29 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from clarencec:
I have faith that the sun will rise every day, and so far my faith has been rewarded, so I'd say yes, faith works if it's evidence based.

Perhaps faith in deities makes people happier and healthier, so may also be said to work in mysterious ways, just as the placebo effect works.


You have faith. Good. Well, God Bless.

1/2/2015 10:36:45 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

joetville
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Quote from jrbogie1949:
i can't imagine a sentence that would make any sense at all that contains the words, 'faith and proven.'


Well "imagine" it if you must, but it's right there in black and white.

1/2/2015 10:45:59 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from joetville:
You have faith. Good. Well, God Bless.


Yes, it's interesting that an atheist would have faith the sun will rise when its a FACT that it will shine whether one believes in it or not. Faith is a very shallow experience but is the best for those with poor rationality which is where religion stakes its claim.

For something like the sun, a scientific fact that has been consistent on earth for over 4 1/2 billion years has Clarence being so shallow that he must have faith is very sad. Or perhaps it's because there is so often so much fog in England one must need faith to see the sun shine. OK, I'll buy that.

1/2/2015 10:52:42 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 
clarencec
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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
Yes, it's interesting that an atheist would have faith the sun will rise when its a FACT that it will shine whether one believes in it or not. Faith is a very shallow experience but is the best for those with poor rationality which is where religion stakes its claim.

For something like the sun, a scientific fact that has been consistent on earth for over 4 1/2 billion years has Clarence being so shallow that he must have faith is very sad. Or perhaps it's because there is so often so much fog in England one must need faith to see the sun shine. OK, I'll buy that.

It's conceivable that the Sun could stop rising if it developed a heart murmur or something and went POOF! (say Brian Cox & Co got their calculations wrong on when Red Gianthood happens) or a huge planetary body could unexpectedly appear undetected from deep space, strike the Earth and stop it turning on its axis. So the Sun continuing to rise isn't a guaranteed certainty for the foreseeable future, but it's more than reasonably faith worthy.

1/2/2015 11:01:28 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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If you require faith in uncertainly and in things with such extremely low probabilities then you have a poor grasp of scientific principles. And this you have already proven.



[Edited 1/2/2015 11:02:55 AM ]

1/2/2015 11:06:24 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from joetville:
Atheists say faith cannot be proven so until "death."

Poorly constructed sentence. What cannot be proven so until death?

Believers say faith has made their lives a truly, a way of a great life.
The depends on how you define "great". How great is it to live a lie even though it makes you feel good? A placebo is actually a lie. It's great in the sense it reveals how the mind works but sucks in the sense that you require a lie to live an artificially great life.

1/2/2015 11:19:36 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 
clarencec
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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
If you require faith in uncertainly and in things with such extremely low probabilities then you have a poor grasp of scientific principles. And this you have already proven.

Possibly we do require a certain amount of faith that many low probability events won't happen, such as getting involved in a fatal car accident, or croaking suddenly from some undiagnosed physical ailment - which could happen to anyone at any time. Almost certainly the faith that we're going to be around tomorrow is considerably less reasonable than having faith the Sun will rise again.

1/2/2015 11:25:10 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 
Yasureoktoo
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"Faith" is probably a poor choice of words, but conditioning, or brainwashing, does work, and can have a positive, or negative affect on a person.

A good example is the junkie or drunk, who finds God, and conditions himself to a different outlook on life. He needs this imagined God to survive.

Others are people who find God, and the god they chose is an evil one, and they condition themselves to that particular God's dogma.

1/2/2015 11:41:52 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from clarencec:
Possibly we do require a certain amount of faith that many low probability events won't happen, such as getting involved in a fatal car accident, or croaking suddenly from some undiagnosed physical ailment...
The probably of an asteroid hitting earth or dislodging the sun's orbit is far far lower than a car accident, disease or a medical misadventure. Car accidents and malpractice have a much higher probability. When I drive I have no faith because if I did I would be worrying and distracted. That'll actually cause an accident and thus a self fulfilling prophesy. Faith is blind and dumb. Its shallow and self defeating.

People with faith and who pray are masturbating themselves and not doing anything good to help themselves or anyone else.

1/2/2015 11:46:39 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
"Faith" is probably a poor choice of words, but conditioning, or brainwashing, does work, and can have a positive, or negative affect on a person.
Positive in the sense it changes direction from a more immediately harmful activity.

A good example is the junkie or drunk, who finds God, and conditions himself to a different outlook on life. He needs this imagined God to survive.
Yes, which is really driving one away from a more immediate danger by occupying their mind with something else, a false hope which also must be replace with something genuine unless, of course, one can maintain the delusion of hope indefinitely. This is why the religious are so resistant to anything rational. It would burst their bubble of delusion and would find themselves too weak to stand on their own.

1/2/2015 1:36:54 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

walt_oftheearth
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Has faith been proven, in practice, to work?

I would say that it has and continues to. I think of Joni Eareakson, a paraplegic since her youth, but her faith/ belief in God sustains her, when there have been many days when it did not look like she could go on.

It is said that "faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." I read that the patriarch Abraham believed God(s promises) and that this trust put him in right standing with God. He was promised a son in his old age, but as a lot of time went by, he took things into his own hands by impregnating his wife Sarah's housekeeper. But even with that, Sarah did later have a child, Issac. Our mistakes do not hinder God from fulfilling His promises.

So faith is not some perfect, never failing lifestyle, where one is always doing good, and all things are well. This is evidenced by this case with Abraham. Yet Abraham today is esteemed as a person who believed, had faith in God

I'd just like to add one more thing. A very important thing. It is absolutely imperative to realize that there are no people with great faith, but people who simply place their trust in a great God.

Though weak at times, we are given faith--especially in times of great trouble and affliction

"Accept whatever befalls you, and in times of humiliation be patient. For gold is tested in the fire, and those found acceptable, in the furnace of humiliation."

~Ecclesiasticus 2:4-5.

1/2/2015 2:15:25 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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How do you know Christian faith is false?

1/2/2015 2:21:28 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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I would be interested in seeing a scientific study on this phenomenon.
If any one has observed a truly scientific study on the effects of faith on the physical outcome of any situation, could they post the data?

1/2/2015 3:48:34 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from ludlowlowell:
How do you know Christian faith is false?


You have a poor memory, poor reading comprehension, poor research skills and a pathological grip on reality.

1/2/2015 9:51:55 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

furchizedek
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
How do you know Christian faith is false?


The "Christian Faith" as it is, is not the faith of Jesus, and that's why it's false. Jesus never taught most of it and his "gospel" to the people certainly never taught that he had come to die for anyone's sins. He said he came to bear witness to the truth. You follow Paul, who Jesus as much as said was a false prophet. Paul, the so called apostle that Jesus never heard of, Paul, who said, ""Being crafty, I caught you with guile.", and who, 4 times in the New Testament, has to assure people that he's "not lying" to them. Paul, who was tried and convicted by the other apostles. "I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:" (Rev 2:2)

You and your particular Christian sect don't even follow Jesus or do what He says to do. This, your faith must be false.

"Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46)

1/2/2015 11:46:47 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Typical Iyam response---ask him a question that he doesn't like, or that challenges his statements, and he responds, not by answering the question, but with a personal insult.

1/3/2015 12:27:52 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

furchizedek
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Just for the record, here goes Mary's perpetual virginity under the bus, another false teaching of your church:

Mat 1:25 And [Joseph] knew [Mary] not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

It clearly implies that after Mary gave birth she and Joseph resumed a normal sex life. Poke, poke, poke. Also, scholars note that if Mary didn't have sex with Joseph then she defrauded him in the marriage union.



[Edited 1/3/2015 12:29:29 AM ]

1/3/2015 1:52:20 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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I have seen answered prayer after answered prayer time after time not only in my prayers many others answered by God in my family and friends as well.

1/3/2015 2:23:51 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
You have a poor memory, poor reading comprehension, poor research skills and a pathological grip on reality.



Let's face it Lud ..... Iyam has you pegged ..... based on your posting history ..... you fit Iyam's view of you to the tee.

Peace

1/3/2015 2:45:52 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 
ron6280a
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Lud thinks driving a taxi is "exciting"

Lud is sure to die a lonely virgin.

1/3/2015 2:36:43 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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An only son is a first born son, right? An only son would also be a last born son. Jesus is referred to in scripture as the first born son because in the culture of the day the first born son was normally the heir.

According to Catherine Emerich, who saw more visions than anyone in history, Joseph and Mary, after they became engaged but before the angel Gabriel came, had already agreed to have a non-sexual marriage so that each one could devote more time to prayer. There are married couples who do this, very few of them, true.

1/3/2015 2:46:19 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from ludlowlowell:
An only son is a first born son, right? An only son would also be a last born son. Jesus is referred to in scripture as the first born son because in the culture of the day the first born son was normally the heir.

According to Catherine Emerich, who saw more visions than anyone in history, Joseph and Mary, after they became engaged but before the angel Gabriel came, had already agreed to have a non-sexual marriage so that each one could devote more time to prayer. There are married couples who do this, very few of them, true.


Come on Lud ..... be real for once in your life.

Peace

1/3/2015 3:55:05 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

joetville
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Well, according to the pollers ....Faith works by a landslide!!

Truth is, we all have faith. And yes, it works. Every day.

1/3/2015 3:57:24 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from joetville:
Well, according to the pollers ....Faith works by a landslide!!

Truth is, we all have faith. And yes, it works. Every day.


I think you're right.



1/3/2015 4:18:11 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

furchizedek
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The Protoevangelium of James contains the first known mention of Mary’s continual virginity. Likely, this book influenced subsequent people to write of the perpetual virginity of Mary. But the book was not the work of the Apostle James, the brother of Christ. The work’s demotion by the early church, especially its non-inclusion with other books of the canon due to its numerous errors, is further verification it was not authentic.

Keep in mind that no passage of Scripture states Mary perpetually remained a virgin and many state the opposite. So to make a case for the perpetual virginity of Mary, one must use ideas that come from outside the Bible and then reinterpret Scripture with some wild hermeneutical gymnastics. This would be appealing to fallible, sinful ideas that originate in the minds of mankind—not God. Why not trust God when He speaks? After all, it would not be a sin for Mary to have sexual relations with her husband Joseph, but it would have been sinful for her to withhold herself from him throughout their marriage (1 Corinthians 7:3–5). There is no biblical or logical reason why Mary would have needed to remain a virgin following the birth of Christ.

The issue is quite simple: should we trust the imperfect sources and traditions that come from outside of Scripture and contradict it or should we trust God’s Word?

1/3/2015 4:24:18 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Yeah faith works quite well;

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1/3/2015 4:24:19 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from ludlowlowell:
An only son is a first born son, right? An only son would also be a last born son. Jesus is referred to in scripture as the first born son because in the culture of the day the first born son was normally the heir.

According to Catherine Emerich, who saw more visions than anyone in history, Joseph and Mary, after they became engaged but before the angel Gabriel came, had already agreed to have a non-sexual marriage so that each one could devote more time to prayer. There are married couples who do this, very few of them, true.


She looks pretty emaciated, not healthy.We have a lady friend in Texas who has visions and hears voices, namely of Elijah. She refuses to take her schizophrenia medicine.


Catherine Emerich

PS- The phrase "first born son" is not in the bible. You'll have to do better than that.



[Edited 1/3/2015 4:27:02 PM ]

1/3/2015 7:45:45 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from furchizedek:

PS- The phrase "first born son" is not in the bible. You'll have to do better than that.


At least not the way you had it. In the scripture it says, "firstborn son." When one searches for terms they have to be correct. Also, firstborn son is most likely to indicate a later second born son, and maybe a third, etc.

But that's not what the verse is about. It says that Joseph didn't have sex with Mary until after Jesus was born. Then he did.

1/5/2015 12:14:29 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Personal opinions vs. Catholic truth. Me, I'll take the truth any old day.

1/5/2015 2:13:48 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Personal opinions vs. Catholic truth. Me, I'll take the truth any old day.


It sure saves you a lot of thinking.A friend of mine has done the same thing. He uses a crystal on a string to make all of his decisions. Whenever he has something that should be thought out carefully, he gets his crystal out instead and lets it decide the issue for him. It's easy and it's lazy but he's addicted to it now.

1/5/2015 2:50:01 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Personal opinions vs. Catholic truth. Me, I'll take the truth any old day.


Then why would you consider yourself catholic?

Peace

1/5/2015 2:01:43 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Personal opinions vs. Catholic truth. Me, I'll take the truth any old day.



The truth is that the catholic church does accept evolution as true.

1/5/2015 5:11:22 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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The truth is that the catholic church does accept evolution as true.


And? Lol so what? I believe in evolution too. Doesn't mean there's no God. Hahaha.

1/5/2015 5:57:23 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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And? Lol so what? I believe in evolution too. Doesn't mean there's no God. Hahaha.


The unsupported claims of a church that a god exists ..... doesn't mean that there is such an entity.

What does prove that a god exists?

Peace

1/5/2015 6:26:26 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from joetville:
And? Lol so what? I believe in evolution too. Doesn't mean there's no God. Hahaha.


somebody needs to explain to me what god and evolution have to do with each other.

1/5/2015 7:21:08 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from sail_dancer:
The unsupported claims of a church that a god exists ..... doesn't mean that there is such an entity.

What does prove that a god exists?

Peace


Look to your left. Now look to your right. Look in front of you, now behind. Now look up. Now down. There's your proof.

1/5/2015 7:21:26 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Oh yeah, peace LOL

1/5/2015 10:00:55 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from joetville:
And? Lol so what? I believe in evolution too. Doesn't mean there's no God. Hahaha.



I never said it did now did I?lolololol

1/6/2015 3:30:57 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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I never said it did now did I?lolololol


No ..... you did not, Dirt!

Just another christian who is afraid that the more knowledge we gain about evolution ..... will increase the questions about creation claims ..... and shake the foundation of his religious teachings.

Peace

1/6/2015 7:04:06 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

joetville
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Quote from sail_dancer:
No ..... you did not, Dirt!

Just another christian who is afraid that the more knowledge we gain about evolution ..... will increase the questions about creation claims ..... and shake the foundation of his religious teachings.

Peace


Right, lol. I'm "afraid" of humans gaining more knowledge of evolution. Eventually it traces to God. No worries.

1/8/2015 12:31:32 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from joetville:
And? Lol so what? I believe in evolution too. Doesn't mean there's no God. Hahaha.


This is absolutely right. God could easily, and surely did, use an evolutionary method of creation and life on this world.

1/8/2015 2:33:21 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

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Quote from joetville:
Right, lol. I'm "afraid" of humans gaining more knowledge of evolution. Eventually it traces to God. No worries.


And you have evidence that substantiates this claim?

Peace

1/8/2015 2:51:40 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 
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Islam is going to kill us all and sail is worried that Christians won't let him marry and suck off his boyfriend.

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1/8/2015 3:31:52 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

sail_dancer
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Saint Petersburg, FL
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Quote from cupocheer:


Yes! Ron's mind has been damaged by his christian dogma ..... he has lost any compassion and love he might have had at one time.

Peace

1/8/2015 2:40:24 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

furchizedek
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Kingman, AZ
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Quote from cupocheer:


What?

1/9/2015 4:01:00 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

joetville
Over 1,000 Posts (1,787)
Titusville, FL
40, joined Oct. 2013


Quote from sail_dancer:
And you have evidence that substantiates this claim?

Peace


Yes. Look in the mirror. You evolved to wear a bike helmet and chin strap on a boat.

1/9/2015 4:05:36 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

olderthandirt20
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Waldron, AR
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Quote from joetville:
Yes. Look in the mirror. You evolved to wear a bike helmet and chin strap on a boat.



Says agent Smith


1/9/2015 6:32:06 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

sail_dancer
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,647)
Saint Petersburg, FL
70, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from joetville:
Yes. Look in the mirror. You evolved to wear a bike helmet and chin strap on a boat.


..... .....


Peace

1/9/2015 6:34:52 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

olderthandirt20
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Waldron, AR
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I used to think he was an idiot, but now hes a blind idiot

1/9/2015 6:38:50 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

sail_dancer
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,647)
Saint Petersburg, FL
70, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from olderthandirt20:
I used to think he was an idiot, but now hes a blind idiot




Controlled by blind faith.

Peace

1/11/2015 8:16:08 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

joetville
Over 1,000 Posts (1,787)
Titusville, FL
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Yawn. Ya think being as old as you two are you'd have an idea what you're talkin about. Lol. You two have no place in this discussion.

1/12/2015 5:27:46 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

sail_dancer
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,647)
Saint Petersburg, FL
70, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from joetville:
Yawn. Ya think being as old as you two are you'd have an idea what you're talkin about. Lol. You two have no place in this discussion.



Then why bother to have a thread when you don't want members voting for anything but #1 to post.

You truly are a shithead.

Peace

1/12/2015 9:49:58 AMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

olderthandirt20
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,853)
Waldron, AR
71, joined Jul. 2014


Once again I challenge you to post anything from all of your discussions with any substance or depth.
Your mental masturbation is evident much like a former poster who crowed of his imagined victories over the heathen atheists.
You post one line OPs with no substance and your arguments are not unlike chicken droppings.
You very much remind me of the old saying" if you can't bedazzle them with brilliance, just baffle them with bull shyt", only your bull isn't even baffling.

1/12/2015 4:42:43 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

joetville
Over 1,000 Posts (1,787)
Titusville, FL
40, joined Oct. 2013


Quote from olderthandirt20:
Once again I challenge you to post anything from all of your discussions with any substance or depth.
Your mental masturbation is evident much like a former poster who crowed of his imagined victories over the heathen atheists.
You post one line OPs with no substance and your arguments are not unlike chicken droppings.
You very much remind me of the old saying" if you can't bedazzle them with brilliance, just baffle them with bull shyt", only your bull isn't even baffling.


Look back, I dare you to go and see the fool you are appear before your eyes. I've made countless rational, balanced, thought-out, factual points that were failed to be seen. My fault? I think f*cking not. Fools need constant checks, and I'll oblige. Do I also have fun once in a while? Of course. Who I am is all over this website in countless original posts of a numerous of topics, hundreds of comments, and on my profile itself!

You're a jokster who cares not of the good of this world, but only to be another bs, gossiper that uses this site as a prance, f*ckin play time hour. Some of us are solving problems and seeking new answers for questions your body can't cash, except in douchiness.

1/12/2015 4:45:58 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

joetville
Over 1,000 Posts (1,787)
Titusville, FL
40, joined Oct. 2013


Quote from sail_dancer:


Then why bother to have a thread when you don't want members voting for anything but #1 to post.

You truly are a shithead.

Peace


Oh I want members voting, and commenting, and giving me something useful in this whole argument!

Can't the vote go elsewhere...possibly??

Sh*t head. Old sh*t head. Old man can't take youth, can ya, sir bro??

1/12/2015 4:54:01 PMHas Faith Been Proven, In Practice, To Work? 

olderthandirt20
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,853)
Waldron, AR
71, joined Jul. 2014


There you go again getting mad and spewing garbage bro!

Why don't you quote some of your earthshaking problem solving contributions?

For instance what problem do you think this thread will solve?

Atheists say faith cannot be proven so until "death."

Believers say faith has made their lives a truly, a way of a great life.

What cryptic problem do you have in mind to solve?
Chicken droppings again