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1/20/2015 5:32:44 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

joetville
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1. True
2. False


Everything was coincidence after coincidence after coincidence (even actions and locations prior to the BB, lol) and the first time anything was planned was by human beings, or aliens, or...
Animals may have...they live on instinct, don't they? But my entire point is everything laughable at your disbelief in a God that revels in the joy of His creation.

I think it's arrogant to believe that we're the most knowledgeable in the universe, don't you?

Can you tell I'm bias in this poll? Lol!


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1/20/2015 8:13:14 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
clarencec
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Quote from joetville:
Everything was coincidence after coincidence after coincidence (even actions and locations prior to the BB, lol) and the first time anything was planned was by human beings, or aliens, or...
Animals may have...they live on instinct, don't they? But my entire point is everything laughable at your disbelief in a God that revels in the joy of His creation.

I think it's arrogant to believe that we're the most knowledgeable in the universe, don't you?

Can you tell I'm bias in this poll? Lol!

Another confused topic. What do you mean by "coincidence after coincidence" before the Big Bang? No one knows if there was a before, what the initial conditions were and what part coincidence may have played in the course of events that led to humans making plans.

Yes, it is arrogant for anyone to think they know for sure that no other creatures in the universe have evolved sophisticated intelligent brains and know lots of stuff. It's a possibility though. Most species manage to reproduce and transmit their genes without having human level intelligence. The cerebral endowments of humans could well be rare or unique in the universe and dependent on many of those "coincidences" you mention. No one knows for sure.



[Edited 1/20/2015 8:13:34 PM ]

1/20/2015 11:31:57 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
Yasureoktoo
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Dude,

You need to take a deep breath, and re-write your opening statement.

It made no sense whatsoever.

1/21/2015 3:14:01 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

sail_dancer
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
Dude,

You need to take a deep breath, and re-write your opening statement.

It made no sense whatsoever.



Most of his posts make no sense whatsoever.

Peace

1/21/2015 8:06:16 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

jrbogie1949
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Quote from joetville:
Everything was coincidence after coincidence after coincidence (even actions and locations prior to the BB, lol) and the first time anything was planned was by human beings, or aliens, or...
Animals may have...they live on instinct, don't they? But my entire point is everything laughable at your disbelief in a God that revels in the joy of His creation.

I think it's arrogant to believe that we're the most knowledgeable in the universe, don't you?

Can you tell I'm bias in this poll? Lol!


huh?

1/21/2015 8:33:48 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

olderthandirt20
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"Plato called complacent ignorance, the cheery glow of self–esteem that burns in those who imagine that they know, the most lethal sickness of the soul. It can not be cured, for the afflicted are quite content with themselves just as they are, and seek no remedy.
— Author Unknown

1/21/2015 10:55:10 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

manniblelector
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I understood the OP, maybe you all are just too stupid to know what he's saying.

1/21/2015 11:18:15 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

sail_dancer
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Quote from manniblelector:
I understood the OP, maybe you all are just too stupid to know what he's saying.



If you truly understand what he posted ..... prove it by posting exactly what he is saying line by line.

Peace

1/21/2015 12:33:32 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

olderthandirt20
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1/21/2015 12:39:28 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

sail_dancer
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And arguing with the "holy pigeon" is the unforgiveable sin ..... isn't it?

Peace



[Edited 1/21/2015 12:40:32 PM ]

1/21/2015 4:26:11 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from manniblelector:
I understood the OP, maybe you all are just too stupid to know what he's saying.


If you too, understand him, you too, need professional help.

1/21/2015 4:39:36 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
clarencec
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Quote from manniblelector:
I understood the OP, maybe you all are just too stupid to know what he's saying.

I think he's making a vague and lazy argument from incredulity that a pre-existent magic bloke (God) must exist because otherwise the evolving universe and humans with minds capable of making plans depend on an unlikely coincidence. It doesn't make much sense to me but you're welcome to enlighten us further if you think otherwise.

1/21/2015 4:49:17 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
Yasureoktoo
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I think he is telling us, that my invisible magic penguin, is far superior to Odin.

1/21/2015 7:11:10 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

manniblelector
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Quote from sail_dancer:


If you truly understand what he posted ..... prove it by posting exactly what he is saying line by line.

Peace


Why would I waste my time doing that, that's like teaching a dog to eat with a fork and knife, too much effort, and nothing to gain.

1/21/2015 7:14:37 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

maxwalbridge
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Before consciousness, and the imagination nothing was planned. What that has to do with humans I don't know.

1/21/2015 7:17:14 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
cupocheer
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Coincidentally, OP ... There is no such thing as coincidence.

1/22/2015 3:28:19 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

sail_dancer
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Quote from manniblelector:
Why would I waste my time doing that, that's like teaching a dog to eat with a fork and knife, too much effort, and nothing to gain.



In other words ..... you can't do it.

Let's face it ..... your friend is illiterate.

Peace

1/22/2015 12:23:15 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from sail_dancer:


If you truly understand what he posted ..... prove it by posting exactly what he is saying line by line.

Peace


Yeah, it seems some people simply lack communication skills. I can prove it by posting EXACTLY what he is saying line for line:

"Everything was coincidence after coincidence after coincidence (even actions and locations prior to the BB, lol) and the first time anything was planned was by human beings, or aliens, or...
Animals may have...they live on instinct, don't they? But my entire point is everything laughable at your disbelief in a God that revels in the joy of His creation.

I think it's arrogant to believe that we're the most knowledgeable in the universe, don't you?

Can you tell I'm bias in this poll? Lol"

Is this not what you meant? Maybe you aren't as clever with your words as you thought.



[Edited 1/22/2015 12:24:25 PM ]

1/22/2015 2:55:12 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
Yasureoktoo
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So basically you can't, and are parroting gibberish just like him.

1/22/2015 3:27:13 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
So basically you can't, and are parroting gibberish just like him.
I did exactly what was asked of me, did I not? If you are unable to interpret his intended message, then maybe you lack language skills. I would hate to see how you would converse with people who speak broken English as a secondary language. Its not my message or maybe I would see a benefit in attempting to translate it for you. The odds favor the assumption that you actually do understand what he is trying to say, you are just being a dueche about it. Either way, don't see any benefit in explaining someone else's point a view, to another person who seems to operate through the filter of an anti-religious bias. Especially, when I don't agree with either one of you.

1/22/2015 3:43:17 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

iyamwutiyam
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Perhaps the op is posting in his native language; glossolalia. Maybe max can translate from glossolalia to another dialect in gibberish.

1/22/2015 4:00:27 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from turkalurk82:
I did exactly what was asked of me, did I not? If you are unable to interpret his intended message, then maybe you lack language skills. I would hate to see how you would converse with people who speak broken English as a secondary language. Its not my message or maybe I would see a benefit in attempting to translate it for you. The odds favor the assumption that you actually do understand what he is trying to say, you are just being a dueche about it. Either way, don't see any benefit in explaining someone else's point a view, to another person who seems to operate through the filter of an anti-religious bias. Especially, when I don't agree with either one of you.


LOLOL


To biblical for me.

If you have something to say, say it.

If it needs to be intreprated, it is meaningless.

1/22/2015 4:02:47 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

sail_dancer
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
LOLOL


To biblical for me.

If you have something to say, say it.

If it needs to be intreprated, it is meaningless.




Peace

1/22/2015 4:11:58 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
LOLOL


To biblical for me.

If you have something to say, say it.

If it needs to be intreprated, it is meaningless.


All linguistic messages need to be decoded and interpreted by the receiver of the message. Didn't you take any communication classes?

1/22/2015 5:32:14 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

joetville
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Oh my God, again with misunderstanding my post?? Do I have to hold your hands and speak louder too?? Lol. You know what, God can't help you if you don't understand your native language lol

1/22/2015 5:59:21 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

sail_dancer
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Quote from joetville:
Oh my God, again with misunderstanding my post?? Do I have to hold your hands and speak louder too?? Lol. You know what, God can't help you if you don't understand your native language lol



You're not only illiterate ..... you're stupid.

Peace

1/22/2015 6:55:30 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from turkalurk82:
All linguistic messages need to be decoded and interpreted by the receiver of the message. Didn't you take any communication classes?


I just decoded that and have to disagree, Fords are faster than Chevys.

1/22/2015 7:42:07 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

iyamwutiyam
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Quote from turkalurk82:
All linguistic messages need to be decoded and interpreted by the receiver of the message. Didn't you take any communication classes?


Not at all unless they're encrypted. Would you say glossolalia is an encrypted language?

1/22/2015 7:47:26 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

iyamwutiyam
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Quote from joetville:
Oh my God, again with misunderstanding my post?? Do I have to hold your hands and speak louder too?? Lol. You know what, God can't help you if you don't understand your native language lol


Gibberish is not a language because it lacks grammar and syntax. Thank Chomsky.

1/22/2015 7:48:53 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

joetville
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Atheists here are obviously avoiding the conversation while not acknowledging their arrogance. But go ahead, keep being all second grade about it.

1/22/2015 8:03:11 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
Yasureoktoo
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Here's a concept.

Re-write your opening statement, English is fine, and structure your thoughts to actually mean something.

1/22/2015 10:44:11 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
Not at all unless they're encrypted. Would you say glossolalia is an encrypted language?
No, I meant the encoding/decoding model of communication. Not encrypted/decrypted, if he was truly speaking gibberish, you couldn't recognize any of his english words. The fact that you seem ignorant about common models of communication, comes to no surprise!

1/23/2015 2:45:59 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

sail_dancer
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Quote from joetville:
Atheists here are obviously avoiding the conversation while not acknowledging their arrogance. But go ahead, keep being all second grade about it.




A second grader is more literate than you.

Peace

1/24/2015 6:53:58 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

joetville
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Quote from sail_dancer:


A second grader is more literate than you.

Peace



Once again, sail? Nothing else to contribute but weak attacks? Don't be a fool and pretend you don't know I absolutely own atheism, or are you "unable to read?" whine some more for me old man



[Edited 1/24/2015 6:54:42 AM ]

1/24/2015 9:25:12 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

sail_dancer
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Quote from joetville:
Once again, sail? Nothing else to contribute but weak attacks?


Contribute to what? A post of gibberish?

Peace

1/24/2015 9:39:15 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from sail_dancer:
Contribute to what? A post of gibberish?

Peace


Wow, he is speaking gibberish, oh so clever! You should be on a debate team with those mad reasoning skills!

1/24/2015 10:04:00 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

sail_dancer
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Quote from turkalurk82:
Wow, he is speaking gibberish, oh so clever! You should be on a debate team with those mad reasoning skills!


Let's face it ..... his original post in this thread ..... makes no sense.

Peace

1/24/2015 10:08:02 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from sail_dancer:
Let's face it ..... his original post in this thread ..... makes no sense.

Peace
it was poorly worded, vague, and unclear. However, it can be interpreted to have meaning and is far from gibberish. Therefore, it is irraitional to continue to claim his words are gibberish, rather than to argue the invalidity of his intended message.

1/24/2015 10:18:17 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
clarencec
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I thought the OP was poorly articulated and didn't amount to a coherent argument. Maybe the author is on drugs. Best to just ignore and find a topic that does make sense or try to fill the gaps and respond to what you think he meant. Or even create your own worthwhile and valid topic.

1/24/2015 10:24:10 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

iyamwutiyam
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Quote from turkalurk82:
it was poorly worded, vague, and unclear. However, it can be interpreted to have meaning and is far from gibberish. Therefore, it is irraitional to continue to claim his words are gibberish, rather than to argue the invalidity of his intended message.


If you understand gibberish then you think in gibberish and yet unable to translate into anything coherent. Perhaps a Ouija board would help.

1/24/2015 10:48:20 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
If you understand gibberish then you think in gibberish and yet unable to translate into anything coherent. Perhaps a Ouija board would help.


I speak and think in gibberish, yet you can still communicate back and forth with me. You are an idiot. If clarence wants me to form a coherent argument based on my interpretation of his words, then I will. For you three ignorant bigots, I wouldn't waste my time.



[Edited 1/24/2015 10:48:49 AM ]

1/24/2015 10:52:53 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

iyamwutiyam
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Quote from turkalurk82:
I speak and think in gibberish, yet you can still communicate back and forth with me. You are an idiot. If clarence wants me to form a coherent argument based on my interpretation of his words, then I will. For you three ignorant bigots, I wouldn't waste my time.


You are wasting time defending gibberish as anything intelligible. You're no different than the religious loons who believes they can translate glossolalia so others can understand it.



[Edited 1/24/2015 10:53:35 AM ]

1/24/2015 11:14:00 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
You are wasting time defending gibberish as anything intelligible. You're no different than the religious loons who believes they can translate glossolalia so others can understand it.


You are no better than a loon who passes out fallacies as if they had any validity! You are a joke. You are not intelligent. You aren't even rational. You are just a nut job, plain and simple. Tell me, would you go to an insane asylum and argue with schizophrenics about their delusions? Unless you are a qualified health professional, you would have to be crazy yourself. Don't give me that crap like you are doing society any favors, you havn't converted anyone, if anything the religious feel validated by your crude behavior. The reality is that you reinforce common prejudices formed against your fellow atheists reinforcing the divide between atheists and the rest of society. Yet, you play this role with pride. Like I said, you are a idiot!

1/24/2015 12:17:58 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
Yasureoktoo
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so basically you have no idea what you are talking about, but are compelled, or obligated, in your mind, to say something.

1/24/2015 12:46:13 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
so basically you have no idea what you are talking about, but are compelled, or obligated, in your mind, to say something.
no, i just observed a bunch of a**holes spewing bullshit out their mouths and decided to call them on their bullshit. If some a**hole wants to accuse someone of speaking gibberish when using the same english words, then I have no desire to argue semantics with an a**hole unable to see past his own biases. So, basically, I don't have enough faith in your reasoning capabilities to expend any significant amount of energy discussing a topic that you seem incapable of understanding. In other words, you aren't worth my time, because you are a deuchebag.

1/24/2015 6:11:06 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
Yasureoktoo
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Spoken like a true christian.


Do you eat with that mouth.

1/24/2015 6:29:04 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

sail_dancer
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
Spoken like a true christian.


Do you eat with that mouth.



More like a true christian troll.

Peace

1/24/2015 7:25:11 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Is ron posting? Because I never claimed to be a Christian or even a theist. I could argue from many perspectives in rational ways, regardless of whether I agree with them or not. It mostly boils down to semantics. If we could speak with a precise universal language system, then we would have fewer, but more efficient arguments. So, in context of this thread, my god is the creator of this Existence. This concept could be applied in many different ways. One can anthromorphize the creation into a person, and another person might look at the world and see the creation is far more complex than can ever be understood through personifying the source of the creation. The point, is there is still a source to this creation, even if the source is like an "infinite well, used but never exhausted"--Lao Tzu

Now, technically, you can say that I don't believe the creator is a person, therefore, to say I believe in a Creator, is inaccurate. Which is why I don't label myself a theist, but rather a panendeist or pandeist depending on how you define the word "universe." If by universe, you mean a totality of all that has or will ever exist, then I am a pandeist. If the word universe is meant to describe anything less, then I am a panendeist. By most standards I am a panendeist, but not in the sense that god's conscious mind transcends the universe. If a person invented this particular universe, I would still worship and revere Existence as the most Supreme Being, and I can't see any amount of torture from any celestrial beings will change my mind. There is potentiality being actualized everywhere, all the time, in such beautiful and atrocious ways. Life is a magnificent thing to behold. I can admire the beauty of a rose while being cautious of its thorns.
I am in a much better mood, so I must apologize for anything that resembled feelings of animosity. I can get frustrated with a certain kind of mindset sometimes. I just want to open their eyes, and sometimes I want to fight fire with fire. But, that just leaves us all burnt up. Well, hope this gibberish has made even the slightest bit of sense to you, but I am not holding my breath. Just felt like I was quick to group you together with sail and iyam. So, I felt slightly obligated to expend a little energy explaining where I am coming from.



[Edited 1/24/2015 7:27:00 PM ]

1/24/2015 7:31:32 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

iyamwutiyam
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Quote from turkalurk82:
Well, hope this gibberish has made even the slightest bit of sense to you, but I am not holding my breath.
It does make sense because knowing that its gibberish allows us to know who you are.

1/24/2015 7:36:13 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
It does make sense because knowing that its gibberish allows us to know who you are.


You aren't smart enough to understand me, so I can understand why you think I speak gibberish. You are just dumb and ignorant, and you will probably remain so for the rest of your shitty life.

1/24/2015 9:13:32 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
Yasureoktoo
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You do speak gibberish, and apparently are not smart enough to put into a plain readable sentence.

Easier to make an a** of yourself, than admit you are without a clue.

1/24/2015 9:35:07 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
You do speak gibberish, and apparently are not smart enough to put into a plain readable sentence.

Easier to make an a** of yourself, than admit you are witout a clue


Your verb "put" is missing it's direct object, therefore you, too, speak gibberish!

I do agree that it is "Easier to make an a** of yourself, than admit you are witout a clue." You and your ignorant buddies exemplify that point consistently. So, I may not know that you are a deuchebag, but you sure do seem like one!



[Edited 1/24/2015 9:36:26 PM ]

1/24/2015 10:44:57 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 
Yasureoktoo
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But I am not inventing a sky daddy, who communicates through your thoughts.

1/24/2015 11:01:11 PMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
But I am not inventing a sky daddy, who communicates through your thoughts.


Neither am I. So what?

1/25/2015 7:46:08 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

iyamwutiyam
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Quote from turkalurk82:
Neither am I. So what?



As a theist you must create an imaginary being. You're mentally disturbed.

A few years back, I found a very useful word to categorize my beliefs. As you may have guessed, its called panendeism.

Panendeism is a sub-category of Deism.


and contradicts self here.

Because I never claimed to be a Christian or even a theist.



I would still worship and revere Existence as the most Supreme Being,



1/25/2015 8:12:28 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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What imaginary being have I created? Are you saying existence doesn't exist? You are just plain stupid. I have laid everything out so simply for you, but you are too stupid to even remotely understand. Wow, how stupid do you have to be not to understand something said to you in so many ways so many different times. You are just plain stupid! I can't for the life of me understand how you can pretend to yourself that you are a intellectual.

1/25/2015 8:48:45 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

iyamwutiyam
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panendeism.

1/25/2015 8:54:46 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
panendeism.


Stupidity.

1/25/2015 8:57:12 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

iyamwutiyam
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It is stupidity to be in such denial about having to artificially create an imaginary being.

1/25/2015 9:09:00 AMBefore humans, there was NOTHING planned. 

turkalurk82
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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
It is stupidity to be in such denial about having to artificially create an imaginary being.

Yet, you are unable to explain what it is that I am imagining. Who do you think you are fooling? Or, are you really this stupid?