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12/29/2015 4:32:49 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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Do they walk their date to their cars?
Open doors?

Am I expecting too much?




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12/29/2015 4:34:15 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

acdmv
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Quote from pagal17:


Am I expecting too much?


Yes...

You should do the driving to..

12/29/2015 4:35:25 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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Some of them...then some of them will just sit outside and honk....

12/29/2015 4:42:24 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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I mean at the end of the date where you met in a public place...lol

I'm guessing if they don't care to walk you to your car at the end of the date, then they are really not that interested.
There won't be a second date either way.



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12/29/2015 4:43:36 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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Oh...I dunno...I don't drive so I wouldn't know...

12/29/2015 4:44:39 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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Quote from im2thexy:
Some of them...then some of them will just sit outside and honk....


Lawdy that's rude! Not a good first impression
Would you still go on the date?

12/29/2015 4:44:51 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

silva_13_i_back
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It all depends on how they act if you act like a lady you will be treated like one .

For me it feels good to treat a lady like a lady. .. sadly I don't get the opportunity much now a days j/s

12/29/2015 4:46:26 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
joe4u2explore
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Quote from pagal17:
Do they walk their date to their cars?
Open doors?

Am I expecting too much?


They don't then just walk away. It's easy to be classy. They should know this from day one. Funny, how easy it can be to get "rewarded" well later on.

12/29/2015 4:47:02 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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silva. IDK...I'm a lady and have had a few encounters that made me question my judgement...lol

Gentlemen are appreciated by a true lady

12/29/2015 4:47:30 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
bandit__geezer
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I still do with my lady and we've been together for 4 years.

12/29/2015 4:48:02 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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Quote from pagal17:
Lawdy that's rude! Not a good first impression
Would you still go on the date?



Yeahhhh I did...I don't let small things bother me...

12/29/2015 4:50:22 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
joe4u2explore
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Quote from bandit__geezer:
I still do with my lady and we've been together for 4 years.


Not to get heavy but these things should be ingrained and they go beyond men/women. For example, walking an old lady across the street, giving up your seat to an older person on the subway, carrying something for someone, etc.... it is what someone with character does.

12/29/2015 4:50:57 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
bandit__geezer
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Quote from joe4u2explore:
Not to get heavy but these things should be ingrained and they go beyond men/women. For example, walking an old lady across the street, giving up your seat to an older person on the subway, carrying something for someone, etc.... it is what someone with character does.



Yep

12/29/2015 4:51:34 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
bandit__geezer
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Sadly, common courtesy is no longer common.

12/29/2015 4:52:15 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

silva_13_i_back
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I enjoy being around a lady I have a lot of friends with different life styles some of them just aren't lady like j/s

Not to say they are bad just not lady like (strippers) some of my best friends are female strippers. I wouldn't want the to change tho

12/29/2015 4:52:35 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
joe4u2explore
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Quote from bandit__geezer:
Sadly, common courtesy is no longer common.


just makes it easier for us

12/29/2015 4:53:19 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

patriottype
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Quote from pagal17:
Do they walk their date to their cars?
Open doors?

Am I expecting too much?
I stand up whenever I want her to notice my erection. If she is sitting down I stand right infront of her and smile when she trys not to stare.



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12/29/2015 4:54:06 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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^^^ This is more common....

12/29/2015 4:55:14 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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thexy...it's those little things that give little insights into your dates character and how he will treat you in the future...there are always signs along the way...
I agree not to sweat the small stuff. Some things are excusable long enough to get through the date.

joe...I agree. I suspect our old fashioned values are disappearing in this world.

12/29/2015 4:57:19 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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Ohhhhh I know that...im at the point where I don't attach expectations to people...I just take them for who they are and decide if I can live with it... if I can kewlllll...if I cant I move on...

12/29/2015 4:57:54 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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Quote from bandit__geezer:
I still do with my lady and we've been together for 4 years.


and that may be why you are in a relationship still going strong after 4 years

12/29/2015 4:58:47 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

silva_13_i_back
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Quote from pagal17:

I suspect our old fashioned values are disappearing in this world.


Only if you let them hold on to what you want and I'm sure in time you will get them .

12/29/2015 4:59:31 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

patriottype
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Quote from im2thexy:
^^^ This is more common....
As if you don't smile when you notice your date has an erection.

12/29/2015 5:01:35 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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I usually don't notice....

12/29/2015 5:01:53 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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silva...indeed! Like I said in my other post...good manners are all part of the sum that helps build chemistry...it's not being too picky

12/29/2015 5:03:53 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

dasnixter
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Gentlemen do w/o a thought


as they were taught.

12/29/2015 5:06:57 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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das...I think it's a generational behavior. Young men and women are not being mentored with manners and values. The boob tube, internet, and absentee parenting are contributing to the demise of the old school mentality.

12/29/2015 5:08:03 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

belphegor1943
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Quote from pagal17:
Do they walk their date to their cars?
Open doors?

Am I expecting too much?


Don't blame the guys too much. It's less and less wanted from women as time goes on. Old-fashioned chivalry isn't valued anymore.

I will do it if my date puts off vibes that she's an old-fashioned type. But, old-fashioned really isn't what I am looking for. Those old manners of holding doors open and such literally mean nothing. Guys will do it if it's expected of them, and that's all. There's nothing more to it than that.



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12/29/2015 5:08:31 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

patriottype
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Quote from pagal17:
I mean at the end of the date where you met in a public place...lol

I'm guessing if they don't care to walk you to your car at the end of the date, then they are really not that interested.
There won't be a second date either way.
You know many of the female gender don't know how to behave like a lady and expect men to be perfect gentlemen. Yeah women own DELUSIONAL.

12/29/2015 5:10:10 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
teeheehee_
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Absolutely. About 82% of men do.

12/29/2015 5:10:14 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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Somebody shouldn't have to act a certain way in order for you to be who you are...if you're a gentleman be a gentleman...if not don't be...its that simple...be who you are...

12/29/2015 5:11:21 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
teeheehee_
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Quote from patriottype:
You know many of the female gender don't know how to behave like a lady and expect men to be perfect gentlemen. Yeah women own DELUSIONAL.


What is "behaving like a lady"?

12/29/2015 5:12:30 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

bumblebee7
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A couple of points....if they both have equal potential value to each other....then what is he getting in return, if both of their presence is considered equal ???

and I don't mean sex or her presence, because his presence is there too.

And a person could say: no...its not asking too much, if she is like the women of the past who's image maybe they didn't quite live up to, but was the inspiration for men to do this.

Don't get me wrong, I was brought up when all that flourished and its kind of tradition and I'll admit there is something about a woman that can inspire those actions.

But...when you have been thru several email times, when something seemed good and ended up wasting your time...and was a wrong doing.

Or been thru enough relations where you did things right and went beyond the call of duty, and most turned out to be ones with issues and this and that and ended up a lost cause and waste of time and feelings and time and a couple were out and out fake liars.

It makes you wonder if your a fool to keep doing that.

I can't help being a certain way all my life....but I think if there is to be chivalry, then it should be the majority of women offer men what men want in the traditional ways and be worthy of that kind of tradition or actions.

In these times, in reality, that's not the case.

Many decided to take away some of what men want in a woman for your own causes or way of being, yet expect men to remain as they were.

If you've learned anything in life....that won't work out, it defies every known form of logic or reasoning....or right and wrong in the old fashioned sense of the words.



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12/29/2015 5:13:12 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
cavie59
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I will let you know if and when I ever get a date.

12/29/2015 5:14:40 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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belph...perhaps the younger women don't appreciate what they haven't experienced?
Yes, some men will go through the motions. In my fortunate experiences My mates have been genuine. They were old school who took pride in being a gentleman.
Maybe women are not showing their appreciation anymore?

I've officially turned into my grand parents. " in my day we..."

12/29/2015 5:15:16 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
joe4u2explore
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Quote from im2thexy:
Somebody shouldn't have to act a certain way in order for you to be who you are...if you're a gentleman be a gentleman...if not don't be...its that simple...be who you are...


This chick always nails it

12/29/2015 5:18:16 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

dasnixter
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Etiquette doesn't come by chance and values have always differed betwixt the generations.

I will still open the door.

If by chance the lady doesn't care for the courtesy extended she'd best be quicker to the door or to the punch.

12/29/2015 5:20:08 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

stobil
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Yes I would. I'd be shocked that I had a date. I don't know any women that I don't work around.



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12/29/2015 5:20:53 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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bee...you know what bee? I actually agree with you

Women will do little things to show their appreciation. Such as, cooking a good meal, doing his laundry,tickets to the big game, taking time to say thank you with a smile and a hug, maybe even a sexy little negligee and a back rub...

Men do too...except for the sexy little negligee fix things around the house, romantic dinners...

12/29/2015 5:21:44 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
teeheehee_
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@sto you're afraid of success!

12/29/2015 5:24:25 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

stobil
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How is that?

12/29/2015 5:26:39 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

patriottype
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Quote from im2thexy:
Somebody shouldn't have to act a certain way in order for you to be who you are...if you're a gentleman be a gentleman...if not don't be...its that simple...be who you are...
Either gender will behave differently if they suddenly feel disgusted by their date. People will surprise you.

12/29/2015 5:28:23 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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Quote from joe4u2explore:
This chick always nails it



There is no point in not nailing it...im me...not a lady...I don't stick labels on myself...I don't act a certain way to get others to act a certain way...just be real is all I ask...pretences be damned...


Not this woman...I am who I am...that's it and that's all...pat...



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12/29/2015 5:29:32 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

patriottype
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Quote from im2thexy:
Somebody shouldn't have to act a certain way in order for you to be who you are...if you're a gentleman be a gentleman...if not don't be...its that simple...be who you are...
People shouldn't expect good manners if they have been deceptive.

12/29/2015 5:30:45 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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People shouldn't expect people to be who they want them to be at all...


If they aren't your cuppa tea..move on and find someone who is....



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12/29/2015 5:32:17 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

patriottype
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from im2thexy:[××××××]There is no point in not nailing it...im me...not a lady...I don't stick labels on myself...I don't act a certain way to get others to act a certain way...just be real is all I ask...pretences be damned...


Not this woman...I am who I am...that's it and that's all...pat...[+++++]I think you lie to yourself about who you are........unlike me I tell myself I am perfection because I am!!!

12/29/2015 5:33:29 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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No I know who I am...I love me and appreciate me exactly as I am....but that doesn't mean I expect others to....I don't have to be perfect either to love me..



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12/29/2015 5:34:53 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

patriottype
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from im2thexy:[********]People shouldn't expect people to be who they want them to be at all...


If they aren't your cuppa tea..move on and find someone who is....[******]Men should try and ejaculate into any and all breathing females.

12/29/2015 5:34:59 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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well...I don't expect to find duct tape, rope, and rubber gloves in his travel bag!
Guess I do have expectations after all

12/29/2015 5:35:28 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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Wellll they do anyway...so what's the diff?....

12/29/2015 5:36:43 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

silva_13_i_back
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I don't go out of my way to impress a lady acting like I'm something I'm not . I have met a few ladies that after meeting them I've said to myself wow I normally don't act that way I guess I seen something special in them .

It's always nice to make someone feel special without motive . Calling a lady beautiful and putting a smile on their face is a good feel to me a least.

12/29/2015 5:38:38 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

archer513
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I'm old fashion. Do all the old fashion stuff. I was raised by a wwIII vet for the most part.
Napkin in lap.
Stand when the lady walks in.
Doors. Pays. Ive actually got weird looks before.
Old school

12/29/2015 5:43:57 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
im2thexy
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Healthy expectations are a good thing...what I don't do is attach my expectations of how people should behave onto others...they're just that..mine..that's not gonna happen...people are who they are and they're gonna behave how they behave...that's why I say if I can live with it kewlllll if I cant I'm ok with that too and I move on...I have no expectation of someone living up to my expectations...they either embody what I am looking for or they don't and my expectations aren't gonna change it if they don't...

12/29/2015 5:48:06 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
sarahgoldsmith
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Quote from silva_13_i_back:
It all depends on how they act if you act like a lady you will be treated like one .

For me it feels good to treat a lady like a lady. .. sadly I don't get the opportunity much now a days j/s


Ask inkpink out, silva. She is the perfect girl for you. I think you two are the perfect match for each other.

Are you shy, silva? Do you want me to ask her out for you? Do you want me to tell her that you want to ask her out? I will do that to help you out.

Inkpink & silva sitting under a tree.
K I S S I N G.
Then comes silva with a baby carriage.

12/29/2015 5:57:24 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
sarahgoldsmith
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@inkpink

What if silva13 ask you out? Would you say yes?

He is kind of shy. So I am helping him out. Give him a chance inkpink. I think he is a good match for you, inkpink.

You & silva look cute together as a couple, inkpink.



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12/29/2015 5:58:07 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 

bumblebee7
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Quote from pagal17:
bee...you know what bee? I actually agree with you

Women will do little things to show their appreciation. Such as, cooking a good meal, doing his laundry,tickets to the big game, taking time to say thank you with a smile and a hug, maybe even a sexy little negligee and a back rub...

Men do too...except for the sexy little negligee fix things around the house, romantic dinners...


Well...I generally do the cooking and my own laundry, I watch the games on T.V.....I smile at her and hug her too. If she wears that, she'll get it back in spades in bed...and I know how to dress to turn a woman on....and I've never gotten a really good back rub before.


So....we're back to square one again.......



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12/29/2015 6:01:53 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
sarahgoldsmith
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I also think Mortara & Skywatcher are cute together as a couple. You should give Mortara a chance to sleep with you, Skywatcher. He is a good match for you.

Sky, you are old & horny. He is old & horny. You two should definitely meet up to have sex.

12/29/2015 6:03:47 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
teeheehee_
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Sarah, are you playing Cupid? Who would you match me up with?

12/29/2015 6:06:42 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
pagal17
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sarah...do a match maker thread. This could get interesting

12/29/2015 6:07:07 PMDo men still stand up to greet their date? 
sarahgoldsmith
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Quote from teeheehee_:
Sarah, are you playing Cupid? Who would you match me up with?


Jer is the perfect man for you.