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1/8/2017 5:28:23 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

texasproud52
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There is an exodus of Christians from the military because of a "hostile work environment" that does not allow them to express their beliefs openly while others are discouraged from joining in the first place, say religious freedom advocates.

They point to a number of recent high-profile cases of military chaplains facing punishment for private religious counseling sessions, and say such cases could cause some with strong faith to reconsider joining the military.

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http://www.newsmax.com/US/military-christians-chaplains-hostile/2015/04/16/id/638918/

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1/8/2017 5:32:08 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
condor_0000
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Well, to be fair, in this day and age Muslims do make the best right-wing, murderous terrorists and that's what the military is all about. But let's give the Christians their due. Their past history of killing and terrorizing the population is still legendary.

1/8/2017 5:53:18 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
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Camel rapin' mooslims..

1/8/2017 6:06:46 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
condor_0000
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Quote from god_says:


Camel rapin' mooslims../


Well, they are right-wingers and as we all know right-wingers don't much care who they rape. Camels, American workers, it's all good.

1/8/2017 6:24:29 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

fishnthec
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It’s OK to evangelize. But it’s not OK to proselytize.

That’s what the Pentagon said, attempting to clarify its position on religious speech in uniform as controversy swirled up around press reports over possible prosecutions of troops for sharing their faith.

What it comes down to, is that discussing matters of faith and religious practice with a willing audience is allowed, but pushing religious beliefs on those who don’t want to hear it is a form of harassment forbidden under Defense Department policies.

SO what is the problem OP?

1/8/2017 6:30:32 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

fishnthec
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I don't want to be the one to have to inform you Op, but I will!

"Freedom of Religion" includes "Freedom from Religion".

1/8/2017 6:47:06 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

texasproud52
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Quote from fishnthec:
It’s OK to evangelize. But it’s not OK to proselytize.

That’s what the Pentagon said, attempting to clarify its position on religious speech in uniform as controversy swirled up around press reports over possible prosecutions of troops for sharing their faith.

What it comes down to, is that discussing matters of faith and religious practice with a willing audience is allowed, but pushing religious beliefs on those who don’t want to hear it is a form of harassment forbidden under Defense Department policies.

SO what is the problem OP?
letting soldiers wear hijabs and turbans is ok but talking Christianity is not...clearly a double standard fishhead...

1/8/2017 7:22:18 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
alls_fair
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Why would christians want to serve in the butcher shop of the united state fed'ral reserve???

I hope they choose to continue to serve God instead of man made idols!!!

1/8/2017 7:23:02 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

fishnthec
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Yes, the Military has relaxed some rules to allow Hijabs, Beards, or turbans once again.

Those were all permitted before new policies in 1980 disallowed them.

And since then, many people would not join the military because their religions require certain clothing or beards to be worn.

The Military feels that these people make great soldiers and wants them to be able to join the military.

Wearing certain clothing or a beard does not constitute or condone Proselytizing.

So now what is the problem Tex?

1/8/2017 7:30:16 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

fishnthec
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You xenophobes and racists are going to have to get a hold of yourselves and realize that we are a nation made up of all religions, ethnicities, and races of people.

The idea of a country made up of white blue-eyed Baptist blondes proved fatal to other countries that tried those ideas!

1/8/2017 8:02:11 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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No muslims in the military. they shouldn't have weapons.

1/8/2017 8:04:25 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
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Quote from maniacmassager:
No muslims in the military. they shouldn't have weapons.


Mossad is evil!

1/8/2017 8:05:45 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from fishnthec:
You xenophobes and racists are going to have to get a hold of yourselves and realize that we are a nation made up of all religions, ethnicities, and races of people.

The idea of a country made up of white blue-eyed Baptist blondes proved fatal to other countries that tried those ideas!
blah blah blah fishhead stop your damned preaching your government is promoting religion and now you are excusing it like a dumbass.

1/8/2017 8:10:23 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Why can't Christians love their enemies to death along side other faiths in the military? Christians can murder, rape and steal with the best of them.

1/8/2017 8:23:37 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from texasproud52:
blah blah blah fishhead stop your damned preaching your government is promoting religion and now you are excusing it like a dumbass.


Come on Tex! That would be the last thing I would ever do.

I strictly promote "Freedon of Religion" just as you do.

I think where we differ, is I promote Freedom of Religion to all the people of the US- Not just the Catholics and Protestants like you apparently do.



[Edited 1/8/2017 8:24:04 AM ]

1/8/2017 8:38:17 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from texasproud52:
letting soldiers wear hijabs and turbans is ok but talking Christianity is not...clearly a double standard fishhead...


There's nothing "double standard" about that. Now, if they start preventing Christians from wearing crucifixes, or St. Christopher medals, then you might have a case.

1/8/2017 3:43:45 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from viper1e:
There's nothing "double standard" about that. Now, if they start preventing Christians from wearing crucifixes, or St. Christopher medals, then you might have a case.
and you might have an argument if they wore those crosses outside of their uniform.

1/8/2017 4:50:03 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from texasproud52:
and you might have an argument if they wore those crosses outside of their uniform.


It's their choice how and where they wear them.

Nobody is telling them they can't.

1/8/2017 5:21:57 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
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1/8/2017 6:57:21 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

texasproud52
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Lets face it...our government is promoting islam and other religions. Let the libtards be on record as defending that.

1/9/2017 3:49:10 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
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Texasproud is also proud of his lack of intelligence and perspective.

MERICA!

1/9/2017 3:53:32 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from snowtires88:
Texasproud is also proud of his lack of intelligence and perspective.

MERICA!
B*tch about crosses on public land...let turbans be worn on gi's

Aint that about it?

1/9/2017 3:59:34 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
snowtires88
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You are severely confused about the meaning behind freedom of religion. That's not some liberal's fault, my good fellow.

1/9/2017 4:02:36 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from snowtires88:
You are severely confused about the meaning behind freedom of religion. That's not some liberal's fault, my good fellow.
It's all the same a**hole... religious SPEECH!! You are not ok with one religion but are with all others...I get it.

1/9/2017 4:11:36 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
snowtires88
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Incorrect

MERICA!

1/9/2017 4:43:30 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from snowtires88:
Incorrect

MERICA!
The evidence is in...

1/9/2017 4:54:58 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
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Quote from texasproud52:
B*tch about crosses on public land...let turbans be worn on gi's

Aint that about it?


That ^^^ is the BEST boiling down of the matter that I have yet to encounter!



If they let them wear the muslim do-rags in combat zones, I could see that as an advantage. The other team might be able to use the diapers to sight in on and draw fire AWAY from the white boys in the unit!

The God fearing boys are likely smart enough to keep a low profile so they can live to fight another day...

1/9/2017 5:07:19 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from fishnthec:
I don't want to be the one to have to inform you Op, but I will!

"Freedom of Religion" includes "Freedom from Religion".


Your so eager to murder gays Jews and blacks.. not shocking

1/9/2017 8:10:21 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
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The good news is that we will have a Christian Leader in eleven days.

We will be done with having a President who is half "Reverend Wright Christian", and half Shitaria Muslim.

It looks like Trump is going to put real Americans in charge of things, and that means the Muslim Terrorists will have a tough time trying to infiltrate our Military.

Watch the confirmation hearings, and you will see that Trump is very serious about making our Military strong and secure again. (We were not as secure for the last eight years, because Obama did everything he could to get Muslims into our Military.)

Mad Dog and the boys will make some changes.

Trump will not be as good as FDR was. Trump won't round up all the Muslims, and put them in camps, where armed guards could keep them from murdering anyone. (That would be Politically Incorrect.)

1/9/2017 8:16:35 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
snowtires88
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Christian leader huh? Well you just lost all credibility with that hollow statement.

1/9/2017 8:43:26 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
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Maybe you are right, but my guess is that Mad Dog Mattis will be a little less friendly to Muslims, and a little more friendly to real Americans.

As to Donald Trump, the fact that he has picked great Americans like General Mattis, should tell you something.

I wasn't a supporter of Trump during the Republican primaries. I didn't believe Trump was a conservative. That said, I must tell you that Trump has shown the kind of man he is by his picks.

I was wrong about Trump. He is a conservative. (Unlike liberals, I can admit it when I am wrong.)

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Christian leader huh? Well you just lost all credibility with that hollow statement.


1/9/2017 9:29:36 AMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from michael061:
The good news is that we will have a Christian Leader in eleven days.

We will be done with having a President who is half "Reverend Wright Christian", and half Shitaria Muslim.

It looks like Hitler is going to put real Americans in charge of things, and that means the Jewish Terrorists will have a tough time trying to infiltrate our Military.

Watch the confirmation hearings, and you will see that Adolph is very serious about making our Military strong and secure again. (We were not as secure for the last eight years, because Kaiser did everything he could to get Jews into our Military.)

Mad Dog and the boys will make some changes.

Hitler will not be as good as Kaiser was. Hitler will round up all the Jews, and put them in camps, where armed guards could keep them from murdering anyone. (That would be Politically Correct.)






[Edited 1/9/2017 9:30:11 AM ]

1/9/2017 12:26:26 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Condor, Muslims are NOT “right wing”, but you know that already, you are just following Alinsk’s Rules for Radicals.

Fish, you say, quoting those who are trying to justify the Christian persecution in the military: “It’s OK to evangelize. But it’s not OK to proselytize.” Well, I thought the two were synonyms. And Fish, “I hate to be the one to inform you”, but Humanism and Atheism are religions.

You say: “The Military feels that these people make great soldiers and wants them to be able to join the military.” No, the Military does not feel like that, Obama, its Commander in Chief, does, and he insists they follow his orders. Mohammedanism is the avowed enemy of Christianity and of Israel and America, so naturally it makes perfect sense to take them into America and into the American military. Right Fishu? They make such great soldiers that they shoot up military bases and such. Who in their right minds want traitors in their ranks? Only a fool trusts his avowed enemy. Fish, you’re disgusting.

And yes, they have told soldiers they can’t wear crosses or Christian emblems.

Muldoofus, proud Godless Liberal, the Federal Government has NO right under the Constitution to tell Christians what to preach from their pulpits or how to practice their religion, and NO right under the Constitution to persecute and wage war on Christians as they are doing today. Don’t you realize that the Humanism, Situational Ethics, Atheism, and now Islam, that is being taught in government schools today IS a government approved religion, a religion meant to stomp out Christianity?

In fact, the United States has just been added to the list of nations that persecute Christians. So it is now official.

Louie

1/9/2017 12:54:14 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
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1/9/2017 1:00:48 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
michael061
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So tell us, how many thousands of Muslims were murdered by Christians in America last year?

And how many Christians were murdered by Muslims in the Middle East last year?

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1/9/2017 1:04:07 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
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Quote from michael061:
So tell us, how many thousands of Muslims were murdered by Christians in America last year?

And how many Christians were murdered by Muslims in the Middle East last year?



Should I include the hundreds of thousands killed
because of Bushes lie over WMD's?





[Edited 1/9/2017 1:05:25 PM ]

1/9/2017 1:32:28 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 
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When I was in the Army the only time I ever saw a chaplain was when I went to Mass on Sunday.Never saw or heard any talk of religion at any other time.

1/9/2017 2:08:45 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Look, Mulduffus, Bush’s war in Iraq (the second war in Iraq) had nothing to do with religion, it had to do with oil. And Muslims murder their own innocent children, they use them as human shields and as human bombs to kill Christians. The other day a Muslim immigrant mother in Europe kissed her two little girls goodby and sent them off as suicide bombers to murder Christians. One triggered her explosives and exploded, killing Christians, the other lost her nerve and didn’t, and the Muslims beat the holy hell out of her for not killing herself and Christians. Welcome to the world of Mohammad, and his loving god Allah, Alah, the Babylonian god of Destruction, a demon, spoken of in the Babylonian tablets.

Louie



[Edited 1/9/2017 2:09:36 PM ]

1/9/2017 2:10:05 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from muldoon1959:
Should I include the hundreds of thousands killed
because of Bushes lie over WMD's?



Don't mess with Texas

1/9/2017 9:44:38 PMMilitary Increasingly 'Hostile' to Christians, Groups Say 

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Quote from michael061:
Maybe you are right, but my guess is that Mad Dog Mattis will be a little less friendly to Muslims, and a little more friendly to real Americans.

As to Donald Trump, the fact that he has picked great Americans like General Mattis, should tell you something.

I wasn't a supporter of Trump during the Republican primaries. I didn't believe Trump was a conservative. That said, I must tell you that Trump has shown the kind of man he is by his picks.

I was wrong about Trump. He is a conservative. (Unlike liberals, I can admit it when I am wrong.)

Quote from snowtires88:
Christian leader huh? Well you just lost all credibility with that hollow statement.
I think some TEA Party people got into his head toward the end of the campaign...