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9/21/2017 4:42:35 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

ludlowlowell
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Q. Where do your rights come from?

A. (Judeo-Christian): From God.

A. (liberal): From the Constitution.

Q. So, if a constitutional amendment were passed that forbad any Christian or other monotheistic worship, would you obey?

A. (Judeo-Christian): No, we would not obey. To us God comes first.

A. (liberal): Yes, we always obey the Constitution, because that's where our rights come from.

Q. But what if a constitutional amendment were passed that criminalized homosexual sex? Would you obey that?

A. (Judeo-Christian): Yes, we would obey.

A. (liberal): We would have to obey, because to us all rights come from the Constitution. We would always do anything the Constitution told us. If the Constitution were amended to abolish freedom of speech and freedom of the press we would honor that, because we have no rights except those given to us by the Constitution.

Right, liberals?

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9/21/2017 4:44:19 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

catlover418
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Not hardly. Libs would just as soon do away with the Constitution. They're trying.

9/21/2017 4:45:48 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
citylights01
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So, you don't follow the constitution unless it forbids homosexual sex, Ludlow? And you're worried that somehow there's going to be a constitutional amendment not allowing you to worship? Weird.



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9/21/2017 4:46:15 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
citylights01
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Quote from catlover418:
Not hardly. Libs would just as soon do away with the Constitution. They're trying.


Who exactly is trying to do that?

9/21/2017 4:46:45 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

scarredandtatto
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You inhale a look lot of cat piss, huh.

9/21/2017 4:47:31 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

ludlowlowell
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Liberals are always talking about their constitutional rights. Okay, libs, that means that if the Constitution changes, your rights change along with it, right?

9/21/2017 4:48:36 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
citylights01
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Liberals are always talking about their constitutional rights. Okay, libs, that means that if the Constitution changes, your rights change along with it, right?


Conservatives are always whining about their rights being taken away. Sounds like you're not actually paying attention to the constitution anyway.

9/21/2017 4:50:49 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

progrocknic
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Liberals are always talking about their constitutional rights. Okay, libs, that means that if the Constitution changes, your rights change along with it, right?


That would be correct. Welcome to America.

9/21/2017 5:21:57 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

fishnthec
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In my house, I make the rules!

Now, if I lived with anyone else, we'd have to have a talk!

9/21/2017 5:28:07 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
drwookie
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Liberals are always talking about their constitutional rights. Okay, libs, that means that if the Constitution changes, your rights change along with it, right?


Dunces are always making up stupid shit about others to take attention away from their pointed head.

9/21/2017 5:33:49 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
Yasureoktoo
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Q. So, if a constitutional amendment were passed that forbad any Christian or other monotheistic worship, would you obey?

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Lud, some religions are pure evil, and should not be allowed.

9/21/2017 5:50:31 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
blake6972
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Quote from fishnthec:
In my tent, I make the rules!

Now, if I lived with anyone else, we'd have to have a talk!


Ok.

9/21/2017 5:54:10 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
sdgncalix3
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Jeez. Leave homosexuals alone.


Somehow our rights are decided on by society.

We as people define them.

Not everyone will agree what rights we do have.

Some people want to control the actions of others.

9/21/2017 6:08:50 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
61falcon
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Doesn't our Constitution say"ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL???Then shouldn't all men have access to the exact same health insurance as our duly elected government representatives???But they don't do they??So trying to equate equality or anything else to the Constitution is a crock of shit.According to the Constitution there is never to be a state sponsored religion of any kind......tell that to right wingers.Notice the Constitution made no references anywhere to gay,straight,bi-sexual,homosexual,transexual,transvestite or any other sexual orientation.ALL MEN SAYS IT ALL!!!

9/21/2017 6:10:31 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
ultrabrat007
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
Jeez. Leave homosexuals alone.


Somehow our rights are decided on by society.

We as people define them.

Not everyone will agree what rights we do have.

Some people want to control the actions of others.


Rights are not decided upon by society, a higher good or any democratic whims of fancy..

Do you have any idea what happens when supposed society starts deciding on an individuals rights?

Based on the wellbeing of the human organism, you will find the Constitution as the most compatible.

9/21/2017 6:17:07 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

marcas_d_pasion
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Do you place it the Law of God above the Law of Man or other way around?

9/21/2017 6:17:11 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

cinnamonnhaze
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My rights come from the lefts.

If you've never noticed, the Constitution is quite the LIBERAL document.

Stay out of my pants & my bedroom & all the other places you batshit crazy far right wing nut jobs wanna but your noses into.

Mind your own damn business & if my actions don't concern you, back the F off.

9/21/2017 6:29:10 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

marcas_d_pasion
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Verry simple question that does not require it thought, only requires sincerity and an anser from the heart...

Do you place it the Law of God above the Law of Man or other way around?

9/21/2017 6:36:49 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

mr_bad_robot
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According to a lot of Democrats the Constitution is a document that must be changed to coincide with the times. For me it's written in stone and should stay left alone.

9/21/2017 6:44:14 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
ultrabrat007
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Quote from mr_bad_robot:
According to a lot of Democrats the Constitution is a document that must be changed to coincide with the times. For me it's written in stone and should stay left alone.


I agree.. To have our rights subjected to the constant, changing, arbituary whims of people is absolutely stupid..

The Constitution serves as a buffer against the forces of misguided forms of democracy or tyrants..

Without it, or if constant subversion is allowed, everyone will eventually live in a horrible state,.

9/21/2017 7:31:42 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
herc117
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
Q. So, if a constitutional amendment were passed that forbad any Christian or other monotheistic worship, would you obey?

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Lud, some religions are pure evil, and should not be allowed.


Who should be the judge of which ones are good and evil?

9/21/2017 8:00:12 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

ludlowlowell
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Quote from 61falcon:
Doesn't our Constitution say"ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL???Then shouldn't all men have access to the exact same health insurance as our duly elected government representatives???But they don't do they??So trying to equate equality or anything else to the Constitution is a crock of shit.According to the Constitution there is never to be a state sponsored religion of any kind......tell that to right wingers.Notice the Constitution made no references anywhere to gay,straight,bi-sexual,homosexual,transexual,transvestite or any other sexual orientation.ALL MEN SAYS IT ALL!!!


Actually the Constitution does not say that, the Declaration of independence does. The Declaration of Independence, unlike the Constitution, does not have the force of law.

Here's my point: secularists and liberals think of their rights as something emanating from the Constitution. Oh, they say, we have a constitutional right to abortion, we have a constitutional right to have perverted sex, we have a right to homosexual marriage, all because the Constitution says so (it doesn't say so, but they think these things are inplied) (in Roe v. Wade, for instance, the Supreme Court said the "right" to abortion is in the "prenumbra" of the Constitution). Okay....if constitutional amendments were specifically passed that outlawed abortion, homosexual sex, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, trial by jury, peotection against self-incrimination, or anything else liberals rightly or wrongly hold dear, would liberals kowtow and say, oh, the Constitution now says we can't have or do these things, so we can't do these things, or would they insist they have these rights, Constitution or no Constitution?

9/21/2017 8:16:35 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
annamally
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Quote from marcas_d_pasion:
Verry simple question that does not require it thought, only requires sincerity and an anser from the heart...

Do you place it the Law of God above the Law of Man or other way around?


Did your English as a second language teachers tell you to STOP ! using " IT " in your sentences !

Your English would be almost perfect if you would stop that habit .

9/21/2017 8:18:23 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

mr_bad_robot
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Quote from annamally:
Did your English as a second language teachers tell you to STOP ! using " IT " in your sentences !

Your English would be almost perfect if you would stop that habit .


It never went to school.

9/21/2017 8:19:37 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

viper1e
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Where do your rights come from?


From the hip with a lot of follow through..



9/21/2017 8:51:16 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

ludlowlowell
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Quote from marcas_d_pasion:
Verry simple question that does not require it thought, only requires sincerity and an anser from the heart...

Do you place it the Law of God above the Law of Man or other way around?


I do consider the law of God to be above the law of man.

"We must obey God and not man."

--Acts 5:29

"Any law not in accordance with the natural law is no law at all."

--St. Thomas Aquinas

Christians see human rights and human dignity as something emanating from God. Secularists see human rights as emanating from the U. S. Constitution. So it seems to me that secularists would say if the Constitution changes (by means of constitutional amendment), then potentially human rights could change also.

Suppose (God forbid) a Nazi-style Party gained political power in the United States, and they managed to pass a constitutional amendment requiring every American citizen to report the names and addresses of every Jew they know to the federal government. Would secularists, who think that the source of human rights and dignity is the Constitution say, oh well, that's what the Constitution says, I must obey?



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9/21/2017 8:51:57 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

progrocknic
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
I do consider the law of God to be above the law of man.


Which God?

9/21/2017 8:57:33 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

ludlowlowell
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THE God. There is only one.

If you don't believe in God where do you think your basic human rights come from? That piece of paper known as the Constitution? Does the Constitution have divine or semi-divine powers? If, by constitutional amendment, the rights granted by the Constitution got repealed, if the Bill of Rights got repealed for instance, would your rights just poof! disappear into thin air?



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9/21/2017 8:59:57 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

marcas_d_pasion
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And if the law of man (the law of kings, rulers, governors and governments) were counter, against or contradict the law of God, would you disobey them even it was "un-patriotic" or uphold them and defy them to keep and save your faith and respect the law of God first?

9/21/2017 9:00:35 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

progrocknic
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
THE God. There is only one.

If you don't believe in God where do you think your basic human rights come from? That piece of paper known as the Constitution? Does the Constitution have divine orvsemi-divine powers? If, by constitutional amendment, the rights granted by the Constitution got repealed, if the Bill of Rights got repealed for instance, would your rights just poof! disappear into thin air?


So you're just going to ignore the fact that other religions exist. Cool.

There really is no such thing as basic human rights. There are only the rights defined by certain entities.

And if amendment are made, then yes, it's possible that our rights would change as well. I would think that would be obvious.

9/21/2017 9:02:35 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
61falcon
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Thou SHALT NOT KILL???Does that ring a bell??What is the purpose of our military??

9/21/2017 9:04:12 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
cupocheer
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My rights come from the barrel of my weapon.

9/21/2017 9:07:41 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
ultrabrat007
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Quote from progrocknic:
So you're just going to ignore the fact that other religions exist. Cool.

There really is no such thing as basic human rights. There are only the rights defined by certain entities.

And if amendment are made, then yes, it's possible that our rights would change as well. I would think that would be obvious.


Rights can be defined by the criteria of what benefits the well being of the human organism or individual.

Totally objective, scientific, and does not include higher causes or higher powers nonsense..

Rights should not be subjective. Anyone who believes that garbage is a moron.



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9/21/2017 9:15:51 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

progrocknic
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Rights will always be subjective because people will always value people differently. And it's very easy to explain why it is impossible for any right to be objective. I'll use two words. Animal rights. If rights were subjective, there would be no debate about what animals have what rights.

Rights will always be defined by us and they will always be subjective.

9/21/2017 9:19:38 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
61falcon
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So you don't think the WE THE PEOPLE doesn't refer back to the Declaration of Independance's "ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL".

9/21/2017 9:29:35 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
ultrabrat007
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Quote from progrocknic:
Rights will always be subjective because people will always value people differently. And it's very easy to explain why it is impossible for any right to be objective. I'll use two words. Animal rights. If rights were subjective, there would be no debate about what animals have what rights.

Rights will always be defined by us and they will always be subjective.



Look, the question is where do rights come from. You just went a step further to almost say they dont exist. Everyone poses their viewpoint.

Youre proposition is that its arbituary, subjective and therefore meaningless.

Others, such as myself, know it can be objective based and therefore permanent..

Subjective whims, emotions, public perspectives, What a larger group of people think at some moment, etc.. should not have any sway on basic rights.. That is meaningless..

Rights based on the well being of the individual and human organism is rock solid and unchanging- because it is objective..

Take your pick..

9/21/2017 9:31:22 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

progrocknic
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Quote from ultrabrat007:
Look, the question is where do rights come from. You just went a step further to almost say they dont exist. Everyone poses their viewpoint.

Youre proposition is that its arbituary, subjective and therefore meaningless.

Others, such as myself, know it can be objective based and therefore permanent..

Subjective whims, emotions, public perspectives, What a larger group of people think at some moment, etc.. should not have any sway on basic rights.. That is meaningless..

Rights based on the well being of the individual and human organism is rock solid and unchanging- because it is objective..

Take your pick..


I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that rights based on the well being of the individual and human organism is also subjective. That's why rights will always be subjective.

9/21/2017 9:35:58 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
ultrabrat007
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Quote from progrocknic:
I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that rights based on the well being of the individual and human organism is also subjective. That's why rights will always be subjective.


Its factually based, even scientific, if you will..

Facts are not subjective. They do not change according to what someone thinks or feels at some moment in time...

What is good or bad for human beings or the individual will be universal...not subjective.

What am I missing?

9/21/2017 9:42:55 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

progrocknic
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Quote from ultrabrat007:
Its factually based, even scientific, if you will..

Facts are not subjective. They do not change according to what someone thinks or feels at some moment in time...

What is good or bad for human beings or the individual will be universal...not subjective.

What am I missing?


But science changes all the time. As technology advances, we often find out that we were wrong in our original determination. Just look at the debate regarding nutrition and what's good for you or bad for you. And what about drugs? Doing opioids is bad for you, but it does benefit those in pain. Do you get my point, or no? There are simply too mamy variables to say what is good or bad for humans subjectively.

9/21/2017 9:44:46 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

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Quote from marcas_d_pasion:
And if the law of man (the law of kings, rulers, governors and governments) were counter, against or contradict the law of God, would you disobey them even it was "un-patriotic" or uphold them and defy them to keep and save your faith and respect the law of God first?


I would hope I would go with the law of God first. I am reminded of what they said about St. Thomas More---"He was the king's good servant, but God's first." (Thomas More, if you didn't know, was King Henry VIII's right hand nan, but More refused to obey Henry's command to leave the True Church and follow Henry's new "church". More paid for that disobedience with His life and now he wears a martyr's crown in Heaven.)

9/21/2017 9:47:44 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
blake6972
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Quote from 61falcon:
Thou SHALT NOT KILL???Does that ring a bell??What is the purpose of our military??


Nothing wrong with killing for the right reason (s).

Please do exercise common sense concerning God's commandments .

9/21/2017 9:51:18 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

ludlowlowell
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Quote from progrocknic:
Rights will always be subjective because people will always value people differently. And it's very easy to explain why it is impossible for any right to be objective. I'll use two words. Animal rights. If rights were subjective, there would be no debate about what animals have what rights.

Rights will always be defined by us and they will always be subjective.


Basic human rights are the same in any and all cultures. The rights to life, property, and family are universal. Sometimes the application of these rights in specific situations becomes subjective, I admit, and sometimes these things have to be addressed by local governments, and sometimes laws will differ in dtail from country to country.

9/21/2017 9:51:54 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
cherisays
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Quote from 61falcon:
Thou SHALT NOT KILL???Does that ring a bell??What is the purpose of our military??


Blake: Nothing wrong with killing for the right reason (s).

Please do exercise common sense concerning God's commandments .

The correct translation is "Thou shall not murder"

As Blake says, sometimes killing is necessary.

9/21/2017 9:56:25 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

progrocknic
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Basic human rights are the same in any and all cultures. The rights to life, property, and family are universal. Sometimes the application of these rights in specific situations becomes subjective, I admit, and sometimes these things have to be addressed by local governments, and sometimes laws will differ in dtail from country to country.


You're telling me the basic human rights that Muslims preach are the same as what Christians preach? What are you so worried about?

9/21/2017 9:57:18 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
61falcon
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In the bibles book of Revelations doesn't it say that Satan and his fallen angels, referred to as stars, were driven out of Heaven???First of all if Heaven were really the panacea we are taught it is, then why would fully one third of it's inhabitants been willing to follow Satan??And then we on Earth were created to take the place of the fallen angels.Do uyou have any concept of how many people have been born in this Earth since the world was created???It either means that one hell of a lot of angels were driven out or very, very few are good enough to enter Heaven.

9/21/2017 9:59:25 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

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I am told that most of the ancient Greek manuscripts said "Thou shalt not murder" but that St. Jerome, in one of his few errors, when he translated the scriptures into Latin, translated the commandment as "Thou shalt not kill".

9/21/2017 10:00:38 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
ultrabrat007
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progrocknic:

"But science changes all the time. As technology advances, we often find out that we were wrong in our original determination. Just look at the debate regarding nutrition and what's good for you or bad for you. And what about drugs? Doing opioids is bad for you, but it does benefit those in pain. Do you get my point, or no? There are simply too mamy variables to say what is good or bad for humans subjectively."


Brat: You are over complicating it in my opinion. Is there or is there not absolute fact as to the basic rights an individual should have that will benifit them physiologically, psychologically and materially?

Thats the criteria. Theres no rocket science to it. Your above scenerio simply falls under the rights a person has to eat or injest whatever they want..

People are expected to be intelligent in the area. They have the freedom to drink gas, eat glass and smoke napalm if they choose... It doesnt negate my previous assertions..

9/21/2017 10:03:44 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
cherisays
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Quote from progrocknic:
But science changes all the time. As technology advances, we often find out that we were wrong in our original determination. Just look at the debate regarding nutrition and what's good for you or bad for you. And what about drugs? Doing opioids is bad for you, but it does benefit those in pain. Do you get my point, or no? There are simply too mamy variables to say what is good or bad for humans subjectively.


Science changes all the time, except when we talk about climate change?

9/21/2017 10:05:53 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

progrocknic
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Quote from cherisays:
Science changes all the time, except when we talk about climate change?


Nope. We are always learning more about the climate. That's why the denial of it is pretty silly to me.

9/21/2017 10:08:28 PMWhere do your rights come from? 

progrocknic
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@Brat

If you think I'm over complicating things, I must just be misunderstanding your point.

9/21/2017 10:21:57 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
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Religion is a sickness for which there is no cure.

9/21/2017 10:25:09 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
ultrabrat007
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Prog:
"If you think I'm over complicating things, I must just be misunderstanding your point."

Brat: Once again, Rights exist because of a society. Those rights are for protecting the wellbeing of an individual (ie 3 areas previously mentioned) And all of it can be based off of fact. Those liberties will never change.. never have..

Subjective rights have no bases in reality. They exist only in the minds of people, until they change their mind.

What someone decides to injest or put in their mouth falls under personal responsibility, not rights..

9/22/2017 8:48:13 AMWhere do your rights come from? 
drwookie
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Quote from cherisays:
Science changes all the time, except when we talk about climate change?


Anyone that knows anything about scientific methods knows Science NEVER CHANGES!

Our understanding of science changes as we learn more. Obviously you can't learn!

9/22/2017 9:42:47 AMWhere do your rights come from? 

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Didn't scientists used to think that the way to cire disease was to let blood out, and didn't they use leeches for this purpose?

9/22/2017 10:51:44 AMWhere do your rights come from? 
drwookie
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Didn't scientists used to think that the way to cire disease was to let blood out, and didn't they use leeches for this purpose?


No science proved that was bullshit. Only a dunce will continue to make such an asinine argument!

9/22/2017 11:04:59 AMWhere do your rights come from? 

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Maybe it's why they picked the white pointy hats.....?

9/22/2017 12:26:53 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
blake6972
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Bunker Hill, WV
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Quote from 61falcon:
In the bibles book of Revelations doesn't it say that Satan and his fallen angels, referred to as stars, were driven out of Heaven???First of all if Heaven were really the panacea we are taught it is, then why would fully one third of it's inhabitants been willing to follow Satan??And then we on Earth were created to take the place of the fallen angels.Do uyou have any concept of how many people have been born in this Earth since the world was created???It either means that one hell of a lot of angels were driven out or very, very few are good enough to enter Heaven.


I will expound upon this in more depth later , but will say that NO ONE is "good" enough to get into Heaven. It isn't about you or me or them, it is about Him (Jesus Christ) and His righteousness .

Where did you get the notion that we were created to replace the fallen angels?
That is contradictory in and of itself for we are not angels, so no replacement.

We I get home later I will cover every part of your questions to the best of my ability.



[Edited 9/22/2017 12:27:37 PM ]

9/22/2017 1:24:35 PMWhere do your rights come from? 
drwookie
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
I am told that most of the ancient Greek manuscripts said "Thou shalt not murder" but that St. Jerome, in one of his few errors, when he translated the scriptures into Latin, translated the commandment as "Thou shalt not kill".


Mount Sinai is in Egypt, no where near Greece. As a dunce, you wil believe anything your told if it justifies your shit for brains rambling!