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10/12/2017 11:24:40 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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10/12/2017 11:35:11 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 

bookwormtobutte
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My safe word is Stop, I let men know right away if I say stop that means stop. Usually cause something started hurting.
Now as for the other women who like being dominated or acting out rape scenarios, I don't know what to tell you, maybe get it in writing

10/12/2017 12:26:29 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

mrfckinpetey
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It should be pretty f**king clear when she says no and means no, and when she says no and wants more. If you can't tell the difference then you should just always consider it no.

10/12/2017 12:29:48 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
cavie59
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Once I hear the word "No", that ends ALL active then and there.

Then again I do not have to worry past asking for a date.

10/12/2017 12:49:31 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
cupocheer
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Doesn't it depend on which state the offense occurs in?

10/12/2017 12:58:43 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from bookwormtobutte:
My safe word is Stop, I let men know right away if I say stop that means stop. Usually cause something started hurting.
Now as for the other women who like being dominated or acting out rape scenarios, I don't know what to tell you, maybe get it in writing


It not a matter of what to tell ME! It's "what should be said" to women who do that misleading and dangerous shit and how they should be dealt with. These women take NO responsibility in the lives of men AND OTHER WOMEN they help to ruin directly and indirectly.

They won't even openly admit they do it out of the fear they'll be called out and put on the spot bcuz they know it's wrong.

10/12/2017 1:07:30 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from mrfckinpetey:
It should be pretty f**king clear when she says no and means no, and when she says no and wants more. If you can't tell the difference then you should just always consider it no.


This is true to a degree. If she says "No" then bite a chunk of meat out of your arm or dig your eyes right out of your skull (a bit exaggerated lol) then it's pretty clear she means no, granted!

But if she's says "No" and continue to be a willing participant, change sexual positions as SHE likes it, tells you when SHES about to cum THEN go to the hospital and claim rape. What do you tell the cops who arrest you 6hrs later or the judge you stand before 3 months later??

10/12/2017 1:46:45 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

mrfckinpetey
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
This is true to a degree. If she says "No" then bite a chunk of meat out of your arm or dig your eyes right out of your skull (a bit exaggerated lol) then it's pretty clear she means no, granted!

But if she's says "No" and continue to be a willing participant, change sexual positions as SHE likes it, tells you when SHES about to cum THEN go to the hospital and claim rape. What do you tell the cops who arrest you 6hrs later or the judge you stand before 3 months later??


That's why I have hidden cameras uploading to the cloud all the time. Even if a woman says yes all night, she can still do that. Just like with a condom, you have to protect yourself in other ways.

10/12/2017 1:53:06 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
tonysattva
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Stick their panties in their mouth.

10/12/2017 2:01:22 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

bookwormtobutte
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
It not a matter of what to tell ME! It's "what should be said" to women who do that misleading and dangerous shit and how they should be dealt with. These women take NO responsibility in the lives of men AND OTHER WOMEN they help to ruin directly and indirectly.

They won't even openly admit they do it out of the fear they'll be called out and put on the spot bcuz they know it's wrong.


Then don't sleep w/those kinds of women. The first time she says No/Stop and you DO stop, and she says "I didn't mean it" tell her you don't play those games and walk out, preferably w/your pants on.
It will probably shock the Hell out of her.

10/12/2017 2:42:57 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

xman379
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That^^^sounds about right.

10/12/2017 3:54:09 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

packersbabe920
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Well if the person continue and she telling you no, yes it is and if she keep changing her mind going back and forth, just walk away from the p*ssy, you don’t need it

10/12/2017 6:30:52 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
doublethree
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Insane feminists say even if they say YES it can still count as a no because they may "be too scared to say no".

Idiot liberals. They are stomping all over men's rights. It is VERY unreasonable to either think yes can mean no OR to think after sex has already started that a man can magically
make his hormones stop to the point of making a rational decision. It's also unreasonable to think it's ok for a woman to lead a man on with their little games where they never intend to have sex and then the an "sexually harasses her" by initiating sex. A lot of women are evil game players who liberal idiots let geta way with it and pretend she's a victim.

10/12/2017 7:25:17 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
cupocheer
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Insane feminists say even if they say YES it can still count as a no because they may "be too scared to say no".
*****

Couple of questions,Three --

1) Are all females feminists?
2) Are all females insane?
3) Are you only in the habit of having sex with insane feminists?
4) How many insane feminists have you raped?
5) If a yes can be a no why do you force yourself on insane feminists?

10/12/2017 7:35:33 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

lucky_1million
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Quote from mrfckinpetey:
It should be pretty f**king clear when she says no and means no


I agree. Some people are very persistent because they are hoping you will change your mind. If you mean NO, you might have to leave to make things clear.

To stick around and to engage someone in kissing or other acts of affection or to remove clothing... that would most likely send someone a confusing mixed-message.

10/12/2017 7:58:26 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
doublethree
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Quote from cupocheer:
Insane feminists say even if they say YES it can still count as a no because they may "be too scared to say no".
*****

Couple of questions,Three --

1) Are all females feminists?
2) Are all females insane?
3) Are you only in the habit of having sex with insane feminists?
4) How many insane feminists have you raped?
5) If a yes can be a no why do you force yourself on insane feminists?

I am telling you what mainstream feminism says. Some of them even mentioned it on dr. drew.... that even if a woman says yes, it doesn't mean it's a yes. As if a man should be expected to be a mind reader and know she doesn't mean yes even if she says yes. Sorry, dumb females, but if you are too scared to say no and you say yes, that's your own problem. It's pathetic how current women are, thinking they are not responsible for any of their idiotic choices.

Most females are crazy to an extent. And you already know I have not ever raped anyone. Are you saying you rape men or something?

10/12/2017 8:58:49 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

viper1e
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
On a serious note...

I saw a documentary about "When can a woman tell a man NO & STOP! It seems like the ideal time would be the VERY MOMENT that any touching or attempted subtleties began right? But this stretches the argument well into consentual intercourse even up to the point of climax that she can say NO &/or STOP!

The rebuttal to this theory was a VERY valid point about those women who say NO/STOP but is STILL a willing participant bcuz it's sexually exciting to them. Now if men are being taught THEY HAVE TO stop or it's rape or sexual assault which comes with detrimental consequences then how are they suppose know when "NO" actually means yes or not??

So in a case where a woman says NO but willingly continue in the sexual participation that men can be arrested and charged with rape JUST BCUZ she said the word "No!" And more so if she cop an attitude later and report it herself which is highly probable nowadays.

So what message are women putting out there to men by talking about this as A GOOD THING bcuz it was exciting to her allowing the "rules" to be broken to satisfied her personal wants & likes?? How many men would she give a POSITIVE IMPRESSION that it's ok to continue his sexual quest after a woman says "No" repeatedly if she have very OPEN discussions expressing h3r approval??

I know my post is kinda long here but do you (OR ANYONE) see that there are so many more detrimental and life threatening effects from this kind of APPROVAL and CONFUSED ALLOWANCES by women on this subject??


Only serious replies


Never do anything without written consent.

Make the b*tch sign a "love contract", and then it doesn't matter what she says.

https://vimeo.com/183089808

10/12/2017 8:59:27 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from mrfckinpetey:
That's why I have hidden cameras uploading to the cloud all the time. Even if a woman says yes all night, she can still do that. Just like with a condom, you have to protect yourself in other ways.


o totally 100% agree and don't give a damn what ppl think about the video taping!

But it's a damn shame that men have to resort to this JUST to avoid be falsely accused and sentenced on a rape change.

But women would say (of course) that's wrong outta fear of being shown to his friends or posted on the internet especially after running off at the mouth.

And the courts would say that's AGAINST THE LAW to video tape her without consent EVEN IF she cried rape and that type proved her to be a liar! They would would PROSICUTE you for that instead.

And all that STILL does nothing for the situation in it's entirety.

10/12/2017 9:14:06 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from bookwormtobutte:
Then don't sleep w/those kinds of women. The first time she says No/Stop and you DO stop, and she says "I didn't mean it" tell her you don't play those games and walk out, preferably w/your pants on.
It will probably shock the Hell out of her.


You only told me what I WOULD do already IF it comes to that! But when I court a woman, even just for sex/friendship I don't just cover what gets my d*ck off. I get into that head, her past, her likes/dislikes, her turn on/offs and how socially brainwashed she is just having simple conversation and asking her opinions. So I DON'T have to worry about me.

But does that mean I shouldn't give a f**k about others or the society I live in being a cesspool?

This thread is NOT about ME at all. It's about a "Source" of bullshit that ppl tend to ignore and don't address that's have all of us living in shit.



[Edited 10/12/2017 9:16:21 PM ]

10/12/2017 9:21:12 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
doublethree
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Quote from viper1e:
Never do anything without written consent.

Make the b*tch sign a "love contract", and then it doesn't matter what she says.

https://vimeo.com/183089808

Guess what? You liberals are so dumb that even WRITTEN consent won't be considered consent. They will claims he felt pressured into signing. That's the world you liberals have created.

10/12/2017 9:31:13 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from doublethree:
Guess what? You liberals are so dumb that even WRITTEN consent won't be considered consent. They will claims he felt pressured into signing. That's the world you liberals have created.


I asked is nicely as I can to keep that nonsense out of here and I even said please.

So can you please keep your pist specific to the topic and keep your politics, racism and any other hatred you have out of this?

10/12/2017 9:42:54 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
doublethree
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it's not hatred. just saying it's ridiculous how men get blamed for everything.

I saw someone yesterday commenting on a newspaper site about how society bashes men nonstop now and pretends women are perfect. It's really getting nuts...

10/12/2017 10:23:53 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from viper1e:
Never do anything without written consent.

Make the b*tch sign a "love contract", and then it doesn't matter what she says.

https://vimeo.com/183089808


That Dave Chappelle skit was gut busting funny.

But when a man is about to lose his life while standing in front of that judge on some false charges it ain't NO damn jokes he can tell to keep his freedom.

10/12/2017 10:29:08 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from doublethree:
it's not hatred. just saying it's ridiculous how men get blamed for everything.

I saw someone yesterday commenting on a newspaper site about how society bashes men nonstop now and pretends women are perfect. It's really getting nuts...


And I totally agree. I was saying this isn't able liberals, conservatives, Democrats, Republicans or none of political rhetoric.

For a second you started to sound like dumpster diver who insist on bringing race and politics into everything even about baking a f**king pie.

But I truly appreciate the seriousness.

10/12/2017 10:33:29 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

driver406
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Quote from mrfckinpetey:
It should be pretty f**king clear when she says no and means no, and when she says no and wants more. If you can't tell the difference then you should just always consider it no.


Black guys don't see it that way.

10/12/2017 10:44:28 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from packersbabe920:
Well if the person continue and she telling you no, yes it is and if she keep changing her mind going back and forth, just walk away from the p*ssy, you don’t need it


Let me painting a picture bcuz that might be easier...

They're in the room on the bed and THEY BOTH get started..SHE is as much as a participant as he is. Then 5 minutes into it she's "stop no stop" BUT NEVER STOP HERSELF! So afew minutes go and again "Stop no stop" BUT NEVER STOP HERSELF!

This continues until they're but naked and CONSENSUALLY f**king, again she say "stop no stop" BUT KEEP ON F**KING. IT'S 15-20 minutes later, she about to cum and days "stop no stop" BUT KEEP ON F**KING!" Then yells "YES JUST LIKE, RIGHT THERE, UH UH OMG" and cum all over him and the damn bed.

Then afterwards she's smiling and cuddles next to him. So where is this "Back & Forth" you speak of??

It's not like she's pushing him off or resisting in some fashion at any time.

10/12/2017 10:52:14 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from dumpster diver406:
Black guys don't see it that way.


Well the slave owners NEVER STOPPED when they raped the black female and male slaves right?

So how can you convince us that a white racist like yourself would stop now??

I'm sure WE ALL would love to hear this.

10/13/2017 2:03:00 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 
cavie59
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Quote from cupocheer:
Insane feminists say even if they say YES it can still count as a no because they may "be too scared to say no".
*****

Couple of questions,Three --

1) Are all females feminists?
2) Are all females insane?
3) Are you only in the habit of having sex with insane feminists?
4) How many insane feminists have you raped?
5) If a yes can be a no why do you force yourself on insane feminists?


1. No
2. No
3. No
4. None
5. Unless she is starting things, I keep my hands off her.

Now men have no way of knowing what a woman will do, even after she agrees to consensual actives. There is no way of knowing IF a woman really means yes or if she is afraid to say no.

Some women have and will continue to FALSELY accuse a man of any number of sexual offences, because they KNOW that they will be believed and the man will not. Therefore MEN need to protect themselves.

The new "Third Wave Feminists" know that they have the LAW fully behind them, and they can ruin a man's life with no proof that the man acted inappropriately.

10/13/2017 5:58:00 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 
cupocheer
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woohoo ... Rock & Roll

10/13/2017 6:02:16 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 
Russsign
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If it is not spoken about first, and no is said, you stop.

10/13/2017 6:25:45 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 

bumblebee7
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In this current society, if a woman was coerced into having sex, by means of which the courts say, was not appropriate, even if she enjoyed the sex, it can be considered a form of rape.

For example: getting her drunk or high on purpose for the sole means of taking advantage of that. In this, she likely would enjoy the sex, but wake up the next day feeling, taken advantage of, and set up for the kill...thus violated.

Of course there will be side effects to all of this, just as there are side effects to these modern wonder drugs. Meaning a girl might be willing at the time without any coercing, then have a change of mind later and call rape, when it wasn't the case....then its up to him, to prove that wasn't the case.

So,,,,in your recent example to simplify things, we didn't see the beginning to see if he used something to coerce her into the sex.

For the record the only time I can remember a girl saying No...when she really meant Yes, was way back in my early teen years....and this meant that yes, they wanted the sex, but wanted the responsibility if anything went wrong, dumped on the guy.


I guess to be careful and solve the problem, the guy when hearing no, should stop and tell her this: If you really don't want this...then say so seriously and I'll stop.

but, if you want it...then say yes and stop saying no.

Or just leave anyway and not take the chance.



[Edited 10/13/2017 6:28:00 AM ]

10/13/2017 6:49:58 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 

kandykayn
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
This is true to a degree. If she says "No" then bite a chunk of meat out of your arm or dig your eyes right out of your skull (a bit exaggerated lol) then it's pretty clear she means no, granted!

But if she's says "No" and continue to be a willing participant, change sexual positions as SHE likes it, tells you when SHES about to cum THEN go to the hospital and claim rape. What do you tell the cops who arrest you 6hrs later or the judge you stand before 3 months later??
Wow nice description you should write sex novels.

10/13/2017 10:37:52 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 

xman379
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If a guy has to ask whether it's rape or not, then there's a problem.

10/13/2017 4:42:33 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

packersbabe920
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
Let me painting a picture bcuz that might be easier...

They're in the room on the bed and THEY BOTH get started..SHE is as much as a participant as he is. Then 5 minutes into it she's "stop no stop" BUT NEVER STOP HERSELF! So afew minutes go and again "Stop no stop" BUT NEVER STOP HERSELF!

This continues until they're but naked and CONSENSUALLY f**king, again she say "stop no stop" BUT KEEP ON F**KING. IT'S 15-20 minutes later, she about to cum and days "stop no stop" BUT KEEP ON F**KING!" Then yells "YES JUST LIKE, RIGHT THERE, UH UH OMG" and cum all over him and the damn bed.

Then afterwards she's smiling and cuddles next to him. So where is this "Back & Forth" you speak of??

It's not like she's pushing him off or resisting in some fashion at any time.



Then maybe he should stop, cause he’s not saying no

10/13/2017 4:53:31 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dark_gable0585
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Quote from doublethree:
I am telling you what mainstream feminism says. Some of them even mentioned it on dr. drew.... that even if a woman says yes, it doesn't mean it's a yes. As if a man should be expected to be a mind reader and know she doesn't mean yes even if she says yes. Sorry, dumb females, but if you are too scared to say no and you say yes, that's your own problem. It's pathetic how current women are, thinking they are not responsible for any of their idiotic choices.

Most females are crazy to an extent. And you already know I have not ever raped anyone. Are you saying you rape men or something?
and some women defending that because they give all women a benefit of the doubt

10/13/2017 5:27:45 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
doublethree
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Quote from xman379:
If a guy has to ask whether it's rape or not, then there's a problem.

That doesn't mean there's a problem with the guy, it means the standard for rape is ridiculous, where the woman could be totally into sex and show no signs of not wanting it then claim later she meant no.

10/13/2017 6:07:16 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

xman379
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Quote from doublethree:
That doesn't mean there's a problem with the guy, it means the standard for rape is ridiculous, where the woman could be totally into sex and show no signs of not wanting it then claim later she meant no.


A guy should NOT have sex with a woman if he has to ask if the encounter is rape or not.

That's a recipe for trouble.

10/13/2017 7:39:19 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

bumblebee7
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I guess there is always this...if not of us were there. We really don't know, what went down.

10/13/2017 8:52:17 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from cuposhit:
Insane feminists say even if they say YES it can still count as a no because they may "be too scared to say no".
*****

Couple of questions,Three --

1) Are all females feminists?
2) Are all females insane?
3) Are you only in the habit of having sex with insane feminists?
4) How many insane feminists have you raped?
5) If a yes can be a no why do you force yourself on insane feminists?


Ok well I have 5 questions for you... Fair enough?

1. How is a man suppose to just know automatically if a female support Feminism or NOT immediately meeting her?
2. How is a man suppose to tell if a woman is insane or NOT immediately meeting her?
3. How can a man determine IF a woman he's about to have sex with is an insane feminist before having sex with her?
4. When you say "Rape" by WHO'S definition are you asking (the law, yours, his own or society) and AGAIN... how would he know upon meeting her she's an insane Feminist?
5. If you have some kinda ABSOLUTE, HONEST, DEFINATE, POSITIVELY ACCURATE and UNDISPUTED TRUTHFUL way to tell these things, that men don't know about, then why not make a thread to inform us?

And for the bonus question...

If you can't give a definitive and positively absolute answer to ANY of those question then why ask something so muf**kn stupid if you never f**ked a woman to KNOW what we gotta hear no matter how crazy the shit they say is??

Answer that!

10/13/2017 9:12:14 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from lucky_1million:
I agree. Some people are very persistent because they are hoping you will change your mind. If you mean NO, you might have to leave to make things clear.

To stick around and to engage someone in kissing or other acts of affection or to remove clothing... that would most likely send someone a confusing mixed-message.


I agree totally 100% on BOTH points you made.

1. There are PLENTY of men who simply DO NOT KNOW (or don't give a shit) where the line is drawn in their pursuit of sex. If a woman says NO, don't allow her personal space to be invaded and is totally not receptive to a man's advances and it happens THAT'S RAPE NO QUESTION!

2. But if a woman IS receptive to his advances, entertains his sexual conversations, seek privacy, allow her personal space to be invaded (saying no), engage him in kissing (saying no), touching and fondling (saying no), taking off clothes (saying no), getting into position (saying no), have sex for however long (saying no), then start saying "Yes, OMG" when reaching her climax....??

WTF is that??

10/13/2017 10:51:05 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
doublethree
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Quote from xman379:
A guy should NOT have sex with a woman if he has to ask if the encounter is rape or not.

That's a recipe for trouble.

you're not understanding where I am coming from. I am talking about a woman who shows NO SIGNS of being uncertain about it. There are women out there who will 100% act like there is no question she wants sex, and then will lie later that she was raped.

And if you think there is ANY woman you can 100% trust and know she wants it, then you're in a dream world. Look at all the serial killers where all their neighbors say there was no sign of them being one. You can't trust anyone 100%, no matter how long you've known them.



[Edited 10/13/2017 10:52:14 PM ]

10/14/2017 12:13:39 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from doublethree:
you're not understanding where I am coming from. I am talking about a woman who shows NO SIGNS of being uncertain about it. There are women out there who will 100% act like there is no question she wants sex, and then will lie later that she was raped.

And if you think there is ANY woman you can 100% trust and know she wants it, then you're in a dream world. Look at all the serial killers where all their neighbors say there was no sign of them being one. You can't trust anyone 100%, no matter how long you've known them.


Exactly! But I honestly don't expect xwoman to understand, I really don't. Just by the comment he made. What man would actually ask a woman he's about to f**k "is this rape?"

I have a friend in Florida who did that. First she told me SHE WAS RAPED! But when I asked what happened this is what I got... "Dude on her job was trying to holla, she thought he was cute & all, they went out for dinner and drinks, then right straight to HIS PLACE, where she kept saying NO but he kept insisting and the intercorse took place!" Now...

She later (2-3 weeks afterwards) says... "That he was on FB calling her all kinds of ghetto how's, talking bout she wanted it, she was easy, etc. And he KEPT CALLING her but she just didn't answer the phone!" Now...

Then she says to me... "Balor I'm not ghetto! I don't do this, do that, wear this, wear that, get stamps, a check, etc" and I'm like WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU KIDDING ME WITH THIS??

This is what logically went through my mind...

1. If you didn't wanna f**k him why go back to his place ON A FIRST DATE as if you have NO IDEA why he wants to go there??

2. I heard no struggle, no fight, no action or attempt WHSTSOEVER to get the f**k outta there AND he took you home afterwards??

3. You didn't call the police to have this man arrested and charged?? You allowed him to get away with it since he can rape someone else??

And on top of ALL THAT...

4. Why the f**k do you CARE SO MUCH about what this "rapist" said to you on FB do much that you feel you need to defend yourself to me against what he said??

5. WTF is he still on your FB page ANYWAY??

6. And WHY is this man's number still in your f**king phone??

You know when I asked her about the phone she said... "Bcuz her cousin and him has the same first name and she didn't want to block her cousin by mistake??"

And when I continued asking about the FB, why she went to his house, why she didn't call the cops, etc SHE GOT ALL MAD AND FIERY WITH ME! And didn't want to talk about it anymore like I did something wrong.

WTF does THAT story sounds like?

10/14/2017 12:20:35 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from cupocheer:


woohoo ... Rock & Roll


Again can you please cease and desist with the childishness?

This is a very important topic that effects us all in epic proportions and could possibly save a man or woman life. You think?

10/14/2017 1:42:58 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

xman379
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Quote from doublethree:
you're not understanding where I am coming from. I am talking about a woman who shows NO SIGNS of being uncertain about it.


But that's NOT what the thread is about. The OP specifically refers to women who are are ambiguous about the desire for a sexual encounter.


There are women out there who will 100% act like there is no question she wants sex, and then will lie later that she was raped.


Yes, I'm sure such women do exist, but I HIGHLY doubt most men will ever encounter such women. Such women are usually con artists and aren't usually targeting some average joe. They usually go after someone they can extort.

And if you think there is ANY woman you can 100% trust and know she wants it, then you're in a dream world. Look at all the serial killers where all their neighbors say there was no sign of them being one. You can't trust anyone 100%, no matter how long you've known them.


Perhaps there are no women I can trust 100%, but I can be 100% certain if a woman wants sex with me.

It's fairly simple, if she wants sex with me, she will WILLINGLY ALLOW it.

Rape is different, even if a woman complies, it is NOT willful. Just like slaves did what they were commanded, but that didn't mean they WANTED to.

10/14/2017 1:52:03 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

xman379
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
Exactly! But I honestly don't expect xwoman to understand, I really don't. Just by the comment he made. What man would actually ask a woman he's about to f**k "is this rape?"


You're right. I can't understand because I can't relate to such ridiculousness.



I've NEVER had to worry about whether a sexual encounter would be considered rape or not.

You can tell when a guy hasn't had much experience with women when he comes up with such far fetched scenarios, that the average person cannot relate to, as if it's something common.



Now if a woman is ANGRY with a guy for whatever reason or ashamed of the sexual encounter, then perhaps she may claim it was rape.

A couple of examples...

1. Guy dates girl, misleads girl, has sex with girl, she realizes that she has been mislead and is angry, so she wants revenge and says "he raped me."

2. Girl dates guy, girl invites guy over for sex, girl gets caught by her parents, girl is embarrassed and ashamed for whatever reason, girl says "he raped me."

Have YOU ever REALLY been with a woman who had you stop & go during a sexual encounter, to the point you weren't sure if she actually wanted to have sex or not?

I haven't.



[Edited 10/14/2017 1:52:58 PM ]

10/14/2017 1:54:33 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
staminaman1
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Damn, doc...xman seems to have a valid point.

X-Men I like how you capitalize certain words for emphasis... that's extremely helpful wen reading your lengthy posts.



[Edited 10/14/2017 1:55:07 PM ]

10/14/2017 2:28:57 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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@ xwoman:

Double there's post IS what this thread is about. It's the DECEPTION of women changing consensual sex by using word play, using it against men out of spite or revenge for "whatever" reason and how THE LAW is going to interpret the word play even ZIF there's no I'll intent on her part. So YES you did miss his point.

Secondly... You talk about what YOU never experience and what YOU know based on YOUR experiences. What every man know and experienced with women IS NOT BASED and LIMITED TO just what you've done and had. If you can't relate then you have NOT ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE to participate. And calling it ridiculous when never walked in his shoes is a juvenile and adolescent response.

The best thing you can do here is ask question and LISTEN to some of these ppls encounters and maybe you'll learn something. But acting like "Bcuz YOU never being locked up on a false charge by a woman then IT DOES EXIST and NEVER HAPPENS is what's really ridiculous.

You're opinions are just as emotional as most women and so is you're logic. You are NOT the nucleus or the blue print upon which God made men.

You call me old? Childish but ok! But I've been f**king before your daddy paid to stick it in your mama. And there are men in here that was f**king before me so you gotta learn how to respect the wisdom instead of being combative.

10/14/2017 2:40:03 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from staminaman1:
Damn, doc...xman seems to have a valid point.

X-Men I like how you capitalize certain words for emphasis... that's extremely helpful wen reading your lengthy posts.


Don't encourage that feminine behavior!

Bcuz he will NOT see that your pist is sarcasm. Hell read it as support to be even more combative.

Out of pure unadulterated respect for my elders I learned to listen when they talked about things I never experience. Once when I was in me late teens, early 20's and started hitting women TWICE my age I felt just like xwoman does now. "I KNOW EVERY F**KING THING! NOBODY CSN TELL ME SHIT BCUZ I'M F**KING WOMEN OLD ENOUGH TO BE MY MOTHER!

But as I got older I realized through MUCH MORE experience that things weren't nowhere CLOSE to what I believed they was. And THAT'S when I related what my elders told me years ago what wisdom was now showing me then.

10/14/2017 3:10:19 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

xman379
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
I've been f**king before your daddy paid to stick it in your mama. And there are men in here that was f**king before me so you gotta learn how to respect the wisdom instead of being combative.


LMAO

You REALLY NEED to STOP it.

YOU ask questions, oh "wise" elder.

You may have been f**king before my daddy met my mom and it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that you haven't done any f**king since.



If a man is confused about consensual sex and rape, then that man has no wisdom with respect to sexual encounters that I need to respect.

10/14/2017 5:37:55 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
doublethree
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xman, I have talked to some women who were so nuts I wouldn't even be surprised if they would be the type to lie that someone raped them. I am sure it's not close to any majority, but I bet it's a lot more women than people would think. Women will go very low when they are mad. Look at all the divorce cases where the women flat out lie. There is really not a fair way to even prosecute most alleged rapists because there is no way to prove for sure anything was rape, since the woman could have told the guy she wanted rough sex where it would look forcible to examiners.

10/14/2017 7:30:47 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from xman379:
LMAO

You REALLY NEED to STOP it.

YOU ask questions, oh "wise" elder.

You may have been f**king before my daddy met my mom and it's PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that you haven't done any f**king since.



If a man is confused about consensual sex and rape, then that man has no wisdom with respect to sexual encounters that I need to respect.


If you stop acting, listening and thinking like a woman you would stop misappropriating ppls words to satisfy your daily dose of "I got a p*ssy" drama and just want to argue.

Not once did I say men don't know the difference between consensual and rape. You took the word "confused" out of one part of this, jammed up your feminine argumentative a** so damn far that you're punching it into other statements to twist ppls words around just like those damn man hating feminist do.

And all that childish ass, 13yr old, "you haven't had p*ssy since blah blah blah" is very unbecoming a real man bcuz you probably don't even know when YOU had sex yourself.

Take that word confused out your a** and go back and read it again xwoman.

10/14/2017 7:35:29 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from doublethree:
xman, I have talked to some women who were so nuts I wouldn't even be surprised if they would be the type to lie that someone raped them. I am sure it's not close to any majority, but I bet it's a lot more women than people would think. Women will go very low when they are mad. Look at all the divorce cases where the women flat out lie. There is really not a fair way to even prosecute most alleged rapists because there is no way to prove for sure anything was rape, since the woman could have told the guy she wanted rough sex where it would look forcible to examiners.


But according to xwoman what you're saying isn't true. Bcuz HE never saw it. And the experiences and knowledge that %ALL MEN have is the exact same as his.

So if HE never experienced it then you're a f**king liar, I'm a f**king liar, Bee is a f**king liar and NONE of what say is true. We just made it all up.

10/15/2017 8:09:14 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 

xman379
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
If you stop acting, listening and thinking like a woman...


Nigga, YOU'RE the one who thinks & acts like a woman EVERY single day, when you refer to me as "xwoman" and say that I am effeminate because we disagree. It's the SAME behavior you complain about women exhibiting, you know, accusing men of being effeminate when they're upset. How ironic & hypocritical of you, but then, that's par for the course for a b*tch a** f**kboy like yourself.


Not once did I say men don't know the difference between consensual and rape.


You coulda fooled me, since the title of the thread is "Is It Rape Or Not?"

Shouldn't a REAL MAN KNOW if a sexual encounter is rape or not?



[Edited 10/15/2017 8:10:19 AM ]

10/15/2017 8:24:38 AMIs It Rape Or Not? 
staminaman1
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We got an excellent battle going on over here folks for King Nigga of the Relationships Forum.... stay tuned for more enthralling details...

10/15/2017 2:29:23 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from xwoman:
Nigga, YOU'RE the one who thinks & acts like a woman EVERY single day, when you refer to me as "xwoman" and say that I am effeminate because we disagree. It's the SAME behavior you complain about women exhibiting, you know, accusing men of being effeminate when they're upset. How ironic & hypocritical of you, but then, that's par for the course for a b*tch a** f**kboy like yourself.


Not once did I say men don't know the difference between consensual and rape.



You coulda fooled me, since the title of the thread is "Is It Rape Or Not?"

Shouldn't a REAL MAN KNOW if a sexual encounter is rape or not?


I'll bet you that you was waving your right pointing no with your left hand on your hip, right leg forward so your left a** cheek is lifted up, slightly leaning forward with your neck moving from side to side and sucking air threw your teeth to make noise ALL THE OTHER B*TCHES MAKE WHEN SASSING OFF AT THE MOUTH AND INDULGING THEMSELVES IN DRAMA!

Remember when you told several other dudes (you b*tched off to) how you LIVE TO ARGUE? Is that why you continuously bring your sweet feminine a** in my threads, bend over and BLEED anywhere you can squat? What IS IT about ME that just BRINGS THE B*TCH OUT in you? What makes you ALL butthurt, bitter, mad, catty, cramping, funky and wanting to scratch my eyes out?

If I piss you off as much as you are NOW then why do you follow me around like the retard do? You done twerked your pants all up your ass, all red in the face, spitting and pissing on yourself, FOR WHAT? Are you happiest when arguing? Calling me n**gers just like your mother, father and grandparents!

Then top it ALL OFF you're (suppose to be) a "Black Boy" with a "White" cartoon charater for a profile pic.

You're just as worse as the retarded Hermaphrodite!

Go play with your little boyfriend outside somewhere and keep your legs crossed little girl Brown folks are talking

10/15/2017 2:33:56 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
staminaman1
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Omgggggg

10/15/2017 5:14:06 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

lucky_1million
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Quote from viper1e:
Never do anything without written consent.



I sort of think this way. If two people don't know each other well enough to form some sort of on-going relationship agreement between them, they probably shouldn't be having sex with each other.



10/15/2017 10:16:39 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from lucky_1million:
I sort of think this way. If two people don't know each other well enough to form some sort of on-going relationship agreement between them, they probably shouldn't be having sex with each other.



This a very well respected opinion and perspective in my view and for that I agree 100% But it is unfair to those who choose not to be in a relationship for whatever reason, those who have circumstances that orevent them from being in one and those who was unfortunately NEVER TAUGHT how to be in one, the responsibilities of one along with the caring, live and support it takes to sustain one.

What about them??

I remember a time when men and women can get together without obligation, spend time, be as sexual as they choose and when it's done IT'S DONE! It's wasn't the sun, ocean, moon, mother nature or some unexplained universal phenomenon, extraterrestrial shit that destroyed that. It was the "Ratchetness and Evil Deeds of Feminism!

Woman never had anything life threatening or of an Apex detriment to fear behind a man just wanting to have sex. But after Feminism look at all a man has to fear. Loss of his freedom, his life, his home, his money, his inheritance, his name, job, vehicle, honor, license,respect, any and everything else he earned or owned even his God given rights.

This is what destroyed that balance and understanding between men in this country. The Greed, Control and Unholy war on men Feminism brought to be socially accepted and normal in this culture. Now we gotta get papers signed just to have sex??

10/15/2017 10:21:55 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 
cupocheer
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My gawd, Eyes ... you prance around DH swinging your oversized dildo and proclaining your dykiness and then assume a male profile to argue with yourself and denounce your own radical feminism. How much more fake can you prohect?

10/15/2017 11:17:11 PMIs It Rape Or Not? 

driver406
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These days if she says it is then it probably is.