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12/6/2017 4:30:19 AMDo gay rights? 

easttowest72
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Do gay rights mean more than personal rights? I'm sure everyone has heard of the baker being sued for not making a wedding cake for the gay couple. It's against his religious beliefs. Have rights of a certain group, taken away rights of others?




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12/6/2017 4:59:06 AMDo gay rights? 
condor_0000
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We must respect religious beliefs (or rights as the OP calls them) 100%. For instance, my religion, Great Pumpkinism, says that we must summarily execute any and all right-wingers upon first contact. No exceptions. Those "rights" must be respected by all of America.

12/6/2017 5:05:29 AMDo gay rights? 

jakebearr
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What about the candlestick maker







12/6/2017 5:11:32 AMDo gay rights? 

easttowest72
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That's what the judges are worried about. If they rule in favor of the baker it will give other businesses the right to refuse them service. I still think the baker or anyone else has the right to refuse to services.

I had a lesbian couple rent a home from me. They were great tenants. I would definitely rent to them again. I think the gay couple should have went to another baker. I'm sure it wouldn't have been very difficult to find someone willing to bake their cake.

12/6/2017 5:15:02 AMDo gay rights? 
condor_0000
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Quote from easttowest72:
That's what the judges are worried about. If they rule in favor of the baker it will give other businesses the right to refuse them service. I still think the baker or anyone else has the right to refuse to services.

I had a lesbian couple rent a home from me. They were great tenants. I would definitely rent to them again. I think the gay couple should have went to another baker. I'm sure it wouldn't have been very difficult to find someone willing to bake their cake.


We absolutely must respect the religious beliefs (or "rights" as you right-wingers like to call them) of the American people. For instance, we Great Pumpkinists believe that all people who own rental properties are demonic scum who are to be summarily executed upon first contact.



[Edited 12/6/2017 5:15:41 AM ]

12/6/2017 5:16:30 AMDo gay rights? 

inkedandsassyy
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Quote from easttowest72:
Do gay rights mean more than personal rights? I'm sure everyone has heard of the baker being sued for not making a wedding cake for the gay couple. It's against his religious beliefs. Have rights of a certain group, taken away rights of others?
In some cases yes this is happening. ..

12/6/2017 5:19:47 AMDo gay rights? 

easttowest72
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Quote from condor_0000:
We absolutely must respect the religious beliefs (or "rights" as you right-wingers like to call them) of the American people. For instance, we Great Pumpkinists believe that all people who own rental properties are demonic scum who are to be summarily executed upon first contact.


Condor you should leave your rented apt and go sleep on the street. Rentals will always be needed for people like you who aren't stable enough to own their own home.

12/6/2017 5:22:44 AMDo gay rights? 
condor_0000
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Quote from inkedandsassyy:
In some cases yes this is happening. ..


We Great Pumpkinists also believe that anyone possessing a million dollars or more is to be summarily executed, along with all of their family members, with their ill-gotten wealth confiscated and returned to the impoverished people of the world. Thank God that there are right-wingers out there who are willing to stand up for the religious "rights" of all Americans, especially the rights of we Great Pumpkinists.

12/6/2017 5:26:31 AMDo gay rights? 
condor_0000
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)



[Edited 12/6/2017 5:27:04 AM ]

12/6/2017 5:26:59 AMDo gay rights? 

easttowest72
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Quote from inkedandsassyy:
In some cases yes this is happening. ..


I think our society needs to be careful not to take away others rights. To me people should be able to serve whomever they want.

12/6/2017 5:29:02 AMDo gay rights? 
condor_0000
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Quote from easttowest72:
I think our society needs to be careful not to take away others rights. To me people should be able to serve whomever they want.


That's all I'm saying, East. And, of course, we don't want to take away the rights of us Great Pumpkinists to exercise our religious beliefs. The core of those beliefs is the summary execution of any and all right-wingers and the confiscation of the ill-gotten wealth of the rich. All hail the stupidity of right-wingers who are rallying for their own demise!

12/6/2017 5:51:37 AMDo gay rights? 

easttowest72
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Condor you must have gone through your first of the month check already

12/6/2017 6:08:51 AMDo gay rights? 
condor_0000
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Quote from easttowest72:
Condor you must have gone through your first of the month check already


Do you ever notice that my postings are political arguments while the "counter-arguments" offered by you right-wingers are never arguments at all, but rather just some mindless little personal attack? That's because you've been backed into a corner and you have no valid counter-argument and you know it. However, you still desperately want to post a counter, but since you have absolutely nothing you opt for a personal attack. When the personal attacks come, I always see that as you right-wingers saying, "I concede, Condor! You're absolutely correct! You are the man!"

12/6/2017 6:19:07 AMDo gay rights? 

hippo65
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I haven't heard this.
But yeah, where is the baker's right????
Even if it's not his religious right, can't business refuse a service to someone?
I think I saw signs of places, where it say we have a right5 to refuse a service to anyone.

12/6/2017 6:22:37 AMDo gay rights? 
condor_0000
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Quote from hippo65:
I haven't heard this.
But yeah, where is the baker's right????
Even if it's not his religious right, can't business refuse a service to someone?
I think I saw signs of places, where it say we have a right5 to refuse a service to anyone.


Exactly! Corporations need more rights, goddamnit! We Americans all think so.

And I think I speak for all my fellow right-wingers when I say, God bless the Jim Crow era. We need to return to the wonderful bygone era of businesses being able to refuse service to anyone.

12/6/2017 6:30:14 AMDo gay rights? 

easttowest72
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I want the right to refuse to pay the tax that's going to support condors dead a**

Hippo I think one judge holds the deciding vote on whether the baker has a right to refuse service. I'm hoping the court upholds his rights.

12/6/2017 6:39:08 AMDo gay rights? 
Kousine
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This shouldn't really be a 'political' debate rather a "Human Rights"... surely peeps can discuss, not argue!, about human rights.... everyone is entitled to their own points of view. Right? without calling each other horrible names.

12/6/2017 6:47:51 AMDo gay rights? 
cupocheer
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Quote from easttowest72:
Do gay rights mean more than personal rights? I'm sure everyone has heard of the baker being sued for not making a wedding cake for the gay couple. It's against his religious beliefs. Have rights of a certain group, taken away rights of others?


OP --- Based on your own "structure" of your presumed topic point THIS THREAD IS NULL AND VOID.

End of Thread

12/6/2017 7:03:24 AMDo gay rights? 
condor_0000
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Quote from easttowest72:
I want the right to refuse to pay the tax that's going to support condors dead a**



That would be the capitalism tax: that portion of the wealth that workers' create that is siphoned off into the pockets of people who don't work but rather live off of their investments. Most of America would like to stop paying that tax. Most of the world would like to stop paying that tax. However, it's also the tax that supports your own dead ass.

12/6/2017 7:06:32 AMDo gay rights? 

sadlsticsienna
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Quote from easttowest72:
Do gay rights mean more than personal rights? I'm sure everyone has heard of the baker being sued for not making a wedding cake for the gay couple. It's against his religious beliefs. Have rights of a certain group, taken away rights of others?

If they are allowed to not make cake for gays they should be allowed to not make cake for blacks and jews

12/6/2017 7:06:36 AMDo gay rights? 

easttowest72
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You don't work,so you wouldn't know.

12/6/2017 7:17:31 AMDo gay rights? 

bumblebee7
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Quote from easttowest72:
Do gay rights mean more than personal rights? I'm sure everyone has heard of the baker being sued for not making a wedding cake for the gay couple. It's against his religious beliefs. Have rights of a certain group, taken away rights of others?


First off...gay as in "men and women" who are homosexual.

Pandora's box got opened in the early '60's with blacks as far as wanting rights without earning them as the rest had to, and in the long run, getting more rights and etc, than the rest of us...plus the aftermath of how that effected our society in a bad way resulting for less true freedoms for all...lowering the standards and etc.

The next group who came along and took advantage of this Pandora's box being opened was...E/w's group...the women and the net result was the same thing that happened before.

Getting certain advantages and not earning them in the right way or not being on the same playing field as men, but demanding they have what the men have...etc, etc, etc...the net result being, even a more screwed up society, and even more standards lowered to appease them, and even less freedoms for all as before...in the long run.

Then the prisoners, the criminal element jumped on this band wagon too...the net result being prison time a walk in the park for these types and crime going up 3000 or more percent than when I was growing up..

after that? every group with the exception of white men and Orientals jumping on this band wagon....and the net result being the same...our society going further downhill.


There is no arguing this either, because I was there and got to see our society before and after all of this..

Sure, some things needed changing, and I agree...anyone no matter the color or gender they deserve the same chances as anyone else....but, they have to reach the bar set by society first...to earn that, and no lowering of the standards like we did either...that's doing it the right way...

Just like I did and all the others I saw grow up around me....and once things are equal...then end it there and shut the f**k up.


so...a great idea, but we went around it in the wrong way...that's what went wrong.

So, when the gays jumped on this bandwagon too....I suspected in the long run they would end up with more advantages and etc than the rest, or the rest meaning white men and Orientals...because every other groups gets more rights, so the gays would be equal to that.

So, who are you E/W to point the finger, when your group does the exact same thing as the gays??? whining and suing to get more rights than you deserve....vs. earning it the old fashioned way ???


as for this scenario....If the baker didn't believe in marriage within the same sex...I think he should have the right to refuse to make the cake and the gay couple simply go to a baker, where this is not an issue.

but your group OP was the second group that rose up from Pandora's box and by old school principles and standards....you can't point the finger.....your doing the same things as the gays....you helped set the path, that made this scenario the thread was written possible.


So, shut the f**k up.



[Edited 12/6/2017 7:19:47 AM ]

12/6/2017 7:17:37 AMDo gay rights? 

easttowest72
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Sienna I think people should be allowed to refuse service to anyone. Here we have a couple of convenience stores owned by Indians. When blacks come in they watch them like hawks because they know their is a good chance they will steal something. The owners are trying to make money and theft cuts profits. I don't think you should be forced to do business with people who hurt your business.

12/6/2017 7:24:51 AMDo gay rights? 

bumblebee7
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Quote from condor_0000:
We must respect religious beliefs (or rights as the OP calls them) 100%. For instance, my religion, Great Pumpkinism, says that we must summarily execute any and all right-wingers upon first contact. No exceptions. Those "rights" must be respected by all of America.


The above...noted, copied and documented and sent to interested parties.

Evidence to be used, in case Korbyn/Condor becomes a mass shooter, or even suspected of that possibility.


Korbyn/Condor your religion is living in your Moms basement and brutalizing your collection of Barbie dolls.


.....

12/6/2017 7:32:58 AMDo gay rights? 
riteguyforu882
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East, lets be honest... you are really bored and lonely at home. You need some c*ck in your life. You should start banging the mailman.

12/6/2017 7:34:52 AMDo gay rights? 

easttowest72
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Bumble I would say women have earned our rights. For years men have been given credit for things their wives are doing. When I married I told my husband he would get credit for everything I did from that point on and he did. I was having a new heat and air system put in my house. The company put the warranty in his name. I wrote the check for the unit and his name wasn't on the deed to the house. My ex wasn't wanting his name on the warranty, its just how society is.

Men feel threatened these days because women can do their jobs better than they can. Men like to lay out of work and cry about working overtime and women have kids and mortgages to pay and happily take the job the man was crying about.

Bumble you have some serious issues because your wife left you. You need to let go of your anger and try to be happy. Try being happy for her too.

12/6/2017 7:36:57 AMDo gay rights? 
riteguyforu882
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East, you're really bored at home being unemployed at all. Spice up your life and start f**king one of your married neighbors.

12/6/2017 8:11:52 AMDo gay rights? 
condor_0000
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Quote from easttowest72:
Bumble I would say women have earned our rights. For years men have been given credit for things their wives are doing. When I married I told my husband he would get credit for everything I did from that point on and he did. I was having a new heat and air system put in my house. The company put the warranty in his name. I wrote the check for the unit and his name wasn't on the deed to the house. My ex wasn't wanting his name on the warranty, its just how society is.

Men feel threatened these days because women can do their jobs better than they can. Men like to lay out of work and cry about working overtime and women have kids and mortgages to pay and happily take the job the man was crying about.

Bumble you have some serious issues because your wife left you. You need to let go of your anger and try to be happy. Try being happy for her too.


Bumbles's religion believes that business should refuse to serve women.

12/6/2017 8:21:41 AMDo gay rights? 

urealysucklol
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It's a private business,
They have a right to refuse
Service,

12/6/2017 8:36:57 AMDo gay rights? 
little_spoon
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Quote from easttowest72:
Do gay rights mean more than personal rights? I'm sure everyone has heard of the baker being sued for not making a wedding cake for the gay couple. It's against his religious beliefs. Have rights of a certain group, taken away rights of others?



That couple is terrible, vile people. They went and seeked out a Christian bakery owner on purpose so they could have something to whine about.

12/6/2017 8:40:46 AMDo gay rights? 
riteguyforu872
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Little spoon feels that the so-called victims are actually perpetrators, in this case.

12/6/2017 8:43:46 AMDo gay rights? 
little_spoon
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Absolutely. Would they go to a muslim bakery owner and do the same thing?

12/6/2017 8:48:24 AMDo gay rights? 
riteguyforu872
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Maybe they would...

12/6/2017 9:37:19 AMDo gay rights? 

playingindirt
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personally I don't see how baking a wedding cake for a gay couple says they do or do not condone gay marriages.

I would not ask someone that's not religious to come to church with me unless it's their idea. trying to force people to go against what they think is right only builds a wedge between people. that's a religious practice a lot of religious people overlook and do it anyway. it's not what religion is supposed to be about.

I am not but IF I were gay I would not ask religious people to contribute to a gay marriage knowing christian religions do not condone gay marriages unless I knew them personally and knew they wouldn't mind. it's just a matter of respect for me.

I don't know why a gay couple would even want religious people that don't condone gay marriages to contribute in any way to their marriage unless they don't have any respect for their religious convictions and or just want to rub their noses in it.
why not just go to another friggin baker?

forcing them to contribute in any way to something that's against their religion should be a violation of their religious rights.



[Edited 12/6/2017 9:38:37 AM ]

12/6/2017 10:48:20 AMDo gay rights? 

mylegsarecold
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Quote from easttowest72:
Do gay rights mean more than personal rights? I'm sure everyone has heard of the baker being sued for not making a wedding cake for the gay couple. It's against his religious beliefs. Have rights of a certain group, taken away rights of others?

They didn't ask him to make a gay cake, just a cake for a wedding.
What difference should it make if the couple are gay or not?

What religion says you can't make a wedding cake for gay people? There is none.
It is a fake religious belief so he can express his dislike for homosexuality.

12/6/2017 10:52:51 AMDo gay rights? 

jer3552
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queers want their cake and eat the baker too.......u should know by now OP that the majority of people on DH are liberal politically correct pukes and anything ultra liberal they r in favor of......

12/6/2017 10:56:13 AMDo gay rights? 

sillylaugher61
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You cannot be compelled to do anything that you find morally objectionable.

12/6/2017 10:59:07 AMDo gay rights? 

jer3552
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we have become a country of pussies who kiss ever minority and weirdo groups asses

12/6/2017 11:15:14 AMDo gay rights? 

mylegsarecold
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Quote from sillylaugher61:
You cannot be compelled to do anything that you find morally objectionable.

Of course you can.
Most people would not pay taxes if they were not compelled to do so.

The civil rights laws, in part, compel white people to not discriminate against blacks.

12/6/2017 11:16:24 AMDo gay rights? 

mylegsarecold
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Quote from jer3552:
we have become a country of pussies who kiss ever minority and weirdo groups asses

Should they kick you out of grocery stores because the bag boy thinks you are too fat?

12/6/2017 11:21:44 AMDo gay rights? 

mylegsarecold
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Quote from jer3552:
queers want their cake and eat the baker too.......u should know by now OP that the majority of people on DH are liberal politically correct pukes and anything ultra liberal they r in favor of......


It is not a gay rights issue, it is a civil rights issue.

12/6/2017 11:30:28 AMDo gay rights? 
uncle_bulgaria
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Quote from easttowest72:
Do gay rights mean more than personal rights? I'm sure everyone has heard of the baker being sued for not making a wedding cake for the gay couple. It's against his religious beliefs. Have rights of a certain group, taken away rights of others?


I think the argument is personal rights shouldn't be part of a professional business. It's the business itself that is breaking the laws in place, not the individual as such. The individuals religious beliefs shouldn't be involved in the running of a business and the delivery of a product.



[Edited 12/6/2017 11:31:13 AM ]

12/6/2017 11:32:06 AMDo gay rights? 

jer3552
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Quote from mylegsarecold:
It is not a gay rights issue, it is a civil rights issue.
u must be licking toads backsides....in America, businesses have the right to refuse services if they feel it is against their moral beliefs.....wouldn't go to a hardware store to ask what kind of tools could I buy to perform an abortion.....they would probably tell me they cant help me with what I want....which is basically what the baker said....im not comfortable with making a wedding cake for a gay wedding........if if was truly civil rights then all fifty states would allow gay marriages....

12/6/2017 11:34:56 AMDo gay rights? 
uncle_bulgaria
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Quote from jer3552:
u must be licking toads backsides....in America, businesses have the right to refuse services if they feel it is against their moral beliefs.


Businesses don't have moral beliefs, or any beliefs..a business isn't a person.

12/6/2017 11:40:57 AMDo gay rights? 

jer3552
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Quote from uncle_bulgaria:
Businesses don't have moral beliefs, or any beliefs..a business isn't a person.
jolly good, that's what Enron and so many other broke crooked companies have said.....this is America and moms and pops stores who don't want to make cakes for f*ggots is more honest than 99 percent of businesses in the world.....I took business classes in college and had to hold back the vomit everytime one of those Proffessors at the lil red school house said a business is not suppose to have morals but rather a mission statement to make as much money as possible

12/6/2017 11:42:34 AMDo gay rights? 
uncle_bulgaria
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The fact it's in front of the supreme court after being kicked out of the lower courts suggests those who conduct law..so far...disagree with what you think you know about law

12/6/2017 11:43:46 AMDo gay rights? 

playingindirt
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Quote from mylegsarecold:
They didn't ask him to make a gay cake, just a cake for a wedding.
What difference should it make if the couple are gay or not?

What religion says you can't make a wedding cake for gay people? There is none.
It is a fake religious belief so he can express his dislike for homosexuality.


just because I have the right to religion it doesn't mean I have the right to force people to contribute to it in any way. I would not "expect" a non religious person to in any way take part of a religious event from baking a cake to praying to God. It's just out of respect.

so why should gay people expect people that do not accept it as their way of life to contribute to it?
forcing other people to contribute to it other than to respecting their right to marry is just as wrong as religious people shoving religion on people.

12/6/2017 11:44:32 AMDo gay rights? 
uncle_bulgaria
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From what I understand the baker has also stopped offering the service to avoid the whole thing and claims to have lost 40% (or was it 60%) of his income because of it.

To the Baker.

Just make the f**king f*ggot cake stupid, you're only hurting yourself...It's just a f**king cake, no one is asking you to help them put their d*cks in each other

12/6/2017 11:46:19 AMDo gay rights? 
uncle_bulgaria
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Quote from playingindirt:


so why should gay people expect people that do not accept it as their way of life to contribute to it?


Again most of you seem to be missing the point...a business isn't a person...a business doesn't have any religious beliefs, thoughts or likes having it's bottom touched. It's a business and should be conducted neutrally to be in compliance with the laws.

12/6/2017 11:46:54 AMDo gay rights? 

jer3552
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Quote from uncle_bulgaria:
The fact it's in front of the supreme court after being kicked out of the lower courts suggests those who conduct law..so far...disagree with what you think you know about law
mr knowitall....when I worked in the prison, we had inmates law suits about having the choice of smooth as well as crunchy peanut butter available in the chow hall as well as many other similar law suits......if it was civil rights, then why don't all fifty states allow gay marriage....I figure a fine barrister like yourself could get legislation passed that all states will allow gay marriages and issue a cake as part of the deal

12/6/2017 11:51:58 AMDo gay rights? 

jer3552
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Quote from uncle_bulgaria:
From what I understand the baker has also stopped offering the service to avoid the whole thing and claims to have lost 40% (or was it 60%) of his income because of it.

To the Baker.

Just make the f**king f*ggot cake stupid, you're only hurting yourself...It's just a f**king cake, no one is asking you to help them put their d*cks in each other
no explaining to a foreigner that here in America if a mom and pop store don't want to serve u kidney pie then good on them

12/6/2017 11:56:11 AMDo gay rights? 
uncle_bulgaria
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Quote from jer3552:
no explaining to a foreigner that here in America if a mom and pop store don't want to serve u kidney pie then good on them


...again, the fact it's been kicked out from the regular courts the state supreme court and is now in front of the US supreme court indicates...you're wrong



[Edited 12/6/2017 11:56:42 AM ]

12/6/2017 11:57:26 AMDo gay rights? 

sadlsticsienna
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Quote from easttowest72:
Sienna I think people should be allowed to refuse service to anyone. Here we have a couple of convenience stores owned by Indians. When blacks come in they watch them like hawks because they know their is a good chance they will steal something. The owners are trying to make money and theft cuts profits. I don't think you should be forced to do business with people who hurt your business.

Exactly but the jews are hypocrites

They would put it on news and make a big fuss if a black was refused service but if a gay is refused service it is a "right"
F**king jews

12/6/2017 11:57:43 AMDo gay rights? 

bumblebee7
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If he lost 40 percent of his sales to gay boycotting.

then move the shop to a side of town not crowded by gays.

Simple fix.

Then he'll be in with a crowd, who appreciates him sticking to his guns and they will buy extra to keep him in business.



[Edited 12/6/2017 11:58:39 AM ]

12/6/2017 11:59:24 AMDo gay rights? 
uncle_bulgaria
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Quote from bumblebee7:
If he lost 40 percent of his sales to gay boycotting.

then move the shop to a side of town not crowded by gays.

Simple fix.


Not "to gays", he stopped offering the service which was 40% of his business...like I said the idiot is only hurting himself.

12/6/2017 12:01:58 PMDo gay rights? 

playingindirt
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Again most of you seem to be missing the point...a business isn't a person...a business doesn't have any religious beliefs, thoughts or likes having it's bottom touched. It's a business and should be conducted neutrally to be in compliance with the laws.


then they should renamed their business to Christ's bakers or something. so people would understand they're dealing with religious nuts. lol

12/6/2017 12:03:45 PMDo gay rights? 

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People own their business so they should conduct and run it how they like, as long as no one is being harmed obviously.

Refusing people should be allowed.

12/6/2017 12:04:34 PMDo gay rights? 
uncle_bulgaria
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then they should renamed their business to Christ's bakers or something. so people would understand they're dealing with religious nuts. lol

The bakers point is..pointless. The non delivery of a cake in no way will prevent said homosexuals from playing with each others willy. He is in no way enabling their union by making a cake. A cake seldom stops a wedding from proceeding or from the wedding night gymnastics being conducted.

Sounds to me like the baker is actually one of those closet homosexuals that protests so much as to appear anti gay when in reality he want's to smear royal icing all over those fancy lad's asses and lick it off

12/6/2017 12:07:57 PMDo gay rights? 

bumblebee7
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Here's the issue with the baker.

he may not be against gays in general, but gay marriage, if he bakes the cake he is going against his beliefs about gay marriage and not everyone lets money rule their life, so it would bother his conscience to bake the cake.

So, maybe he is willing to go out of business in this particular venture to live with himself.

that's his right.

If he was successful at one thing, he can be with another....so whatever..

but, no one should be forced by law or otherwise to not be able to choose who they can refuse service too in certain products or situations.

He is not saying he refuses service to gays, he offers them everything in the till, except baking a weeding cake for them.

If I ran a small manufacturing shop and custom made things for people...I wouldn't refuse orders from Blacks, but if a black came in and wanted me to make him something that represent the new Black Panthers, and I thought their cause was racist and violent and hateful...and against my beliefs,...I'd refuse to make it.



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12/6/2017 12:09:44 PMDo gay rights? 
uncle_bulgaria
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Here's the issue with the baker.

he may not be against gays in general, but gay marriage, if he bakes the cake he is going against his beliefs about gay marriage and not everyone lets money rule their life, so it would bother his conscience to bake the cake.


Well no. The cake eating ceremony isn't part of the marriage ceremony...it's 99.999% of the time done at the reception. The cake has zip to do with ceremony of marriage.

There is NO WHERE in the bible that says anything close to baking cakes for f*ggots as going against the word of God.