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7/3/2010 9:05:42 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

george1965
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some of my dates has said no, but i kept on and some gave in.




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7/3/2010 9:12:02 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
wise_guy
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7/3/2010 9:12:56 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

holdinpanama
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No means no bottom line

7/3/2010 9:13:49 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
jenamp88
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Morris, MN
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Quote from george1965:
some of my dates has said no, but i kept on and some gave in.


That's usually called a pity date.

7/3/2010 9:15:55 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
bigbuck4u
Richmond, VA
58, joined Feb. 2010


Quote from george1965:
some of my dates has said no, but i kept on and some gave in.
...weak....

7/3/2010 9:21:48 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

lovethelake17
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Henderson, NV
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Quote from george1965:
some of my dates has said no, but i kept on and some gave in.


They gave in. So it was a fight and they, what, in essence, cried uncle and let you do what you wanted, pretty much let you take what you would take? You forced the issue? Because, what? You're the one who gets to call the shots?

I'm sure it was good for you.


If they're giving in, it's not because all of a sudden they decided that they wanted you, too. Just so you know, giving in, is not really the kind of sex you want. But perhaps you don't care.


But I'm sure you'll just come back and say you were persuasive, or that some of your dates were only hesitating and you swept their hesitations away with your manliness and they could no longer resist.


Unless you're talking dates, not sex, in which case, Jen is right. It's a pity date.



[Edited 7/3/2010 9:23:20 PM ]

7/3/2010 9:49:04 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
anais_87
Philadelphia, PA
30, joined Jun. 2010


Quote from holdinpanama:
No means no bottom line


Thank you! As my mom would say: "What part of NO don't you understand? The N? Or the O?

7/3/2010 9:54:11 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
emilyanne82
Hanoverton, OH
35, joined Jun. 2010


Thank you! As my mom would say: "What part of NO don't you understand? The N? Or the O?

That is soooo awesome men don't get it no means no so back off

7/3/2010 9:56:40 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
leftfooted
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,088)
West Covina, CA
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sometimes No has nothing to do with it....

7/3/2010 9:56:45 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
angelmen
Clearwater, FL
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hello every bory

7/3/2010 9:57:33 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
ladybugbp
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Pittsburgh, PA
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Quote from george1965:
some of my dates has said no, but i kept on and some gave in.

And the others......probably think you are an a** hole.

7/3/2010 9:58:29 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

lovethelake17
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Quote from emilyanne82:
Thank you! As my mom would say: "What part of NO don't you understand? The N? Or the O?

That is soooo awesome men don't get it no means no so back off


A lot of men get it. Only some don't.

7/3/2010 10:00:24 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
notlqqkn4luv
Citrus Heights, CA
53, joined Apr. 2010


No usually means "NO". If a woman "gives in" (to going on a date) after she's first said "NO" she's giving UP so you'll stop harassing her OR you offered to buy her such a high-priced meal she couldn't bear to pass it up.

Now, if she says "NO" while you're trying to get her to have sex with you and you eventually get your way, then it's highly likely you raped her and she didn't just "give IN" in that instance.

Be careful you don't cross these imaginary lines you seem to think exist. One might cost you $100.00 for a lobster dinner but the other might cost you 15 years in prison.

7/3/2010 10:03:57 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
angelmen
Clearwater, FL
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hello, sorry I am on a test time

7/3/2010 10:10:14 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
75scott
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Is this "Natural Selection", DH style?

7/3/2010 10:11:47 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
airwolf_1
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Sebeka, MN
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I have a beautiful redhead in my life who, for the most part, would do anything I ask. Aside from one episode that ended in ludicrous failure, I can't recall ever "forcing" her to do anything.

OH, BTW, she's a dog, and it t'was I who ended up swimming out after those MF'n ducks. Dog can bite really hard (never has, she's sweet), so I prefer to work "with" her.

If your dates have to be forced to give in...man, that's some seriously horsesh*t dating.

7/3/2010 10:22:28 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

bbw47reader
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That's called date rape. Many women 'give in' for fear of what will happen if they don't.

Realizing that 'no' isn't cutting it and that they will have to throw a fit to get you to stop is scary. Not knowing what might happen next is scary. You not stopping is scary.

I've done it, and don't personally know any woman who hasn't.

Yes, we mean it when we say no. It's just that when saying no doesn't work, the situation has turned into something completely different.

After a date rape a woman may blame herself and be ashamed of not being strong enough or 'good' enough to have her wishes respected or any number of morale and esteem crushing notions. She may continue to 'give in' - feeling that the damage is done, and, since she feels it's her fault in some way, she deserves no better.

No means no.


Edit:

F**ktard.



[Edited 7/3/2010 10:23:23 PM ]

7/3/2010 10:25:10 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
jonas35
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Dahlonega, GA
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No, it means no! Unless her eyes say yes.

7/3/2010 10:28:25 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

122750again
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Sioux Falls, SD
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Most Women I know when they say No, it means no, Not Maybe...and if you are pushing any Women towards a Yes answer and she keeps saying No, She MEANS NO.
When are you guys gonna learn...NO MEAMS NO... PLAIMNAND SIMPLE... IF THEE LADY SAYS NO SHE F**KIN MEANS NO
Does not mean she Won't change her mind at a later date. BUT, Jesus H Christ, you guys just think that because you buy a Woman Dinner, or Drinks, or Whatever, that she supposed to Fall all over you and want to Instantly Fall In Bed With You

7/3/2010 10:48:39 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

george1965
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Quote from lovethelake17:
They gave in. So it was a fight and they, what, in essence, cried uncle and let you do what you wanted, pretty much let you take what you would take? You forced the issue? Because, what? You're the one who gets to call the shots?

I'm sure it was good for you.


If they're giving in, it's not because all of a sudden they decided that they wanted you, too. Just so you know, giving in, is not really the kind of sex you want. But perhaps you don't care.


But I'm sure you'll just come back and say you were persuasive, or that some of your dates were only hesitating and you swept their hesitations away with your manliness and they could no longer resist.


Unless you're talking dates, not sex, in which case, Jen is right. It's a pity date.
no! im saying i got them hot and they gave in, not all of them. o.k

7/3/2010 10:54:48 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

george1965
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Bedford, VA
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Quote from bbw47reader:
That's called date rape. Many women 'give in' for fear of what will happen if they don't.

Realizing that 'no' isn't cutting it and that they will have to throw a fit to get you to stop is scary. Not knowing what might happen next is scary. You not stopping is scary.

I've done it, and don't personally know any woman who hasn't.

Yes, we mean it when we say no. It's just that when saying no doesn't work, the situation has turned into something completely different.

After a date rape a woman may blame herself and be ashamed of not being strong enough or 'good' enough to have her wishes respected or any number of morale and esteem crushing notions. She may continue to 'give in' - feeling that the damage is done, and, since she feels it's her fault in some way, she deserves no better.

No means no.


Edit:

F**ktard.
i did not rape them
, i kept playing with them til they said yes,yes not all of them

7/3/2010 10:55:58 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

lovethelake17
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Quote from george1965:
no! im saying i got them hot and they gave in, not all of them. o.k


You still went against their wishes. You heard them say no. You knew they didn't want to. You didn't care. You wanted what you wanted, the hell with what she wanted or didn't want.

So what you got her body involved. It still doesn't mean she was saying yes.

But how telling..."not all of them"...so you tried with all of them, though, huh?


What part of 'gave in' are you having trouble with? You didn't change their minds. You overwhelmed them or pushed them and just plain didn't listen to them. You wanted what you wanted so you kept up doing what you were doing. Even after she said no. Her wishes meant nothing to you because you wanted what you wanted when you wanted it and only your wants mattered.

You know, men say no, too. (Really! quiet, Jonas!) I would not push it once they said no.

Maybe your date would have been fine with it at a later date and would have said yes then, but you had to win so you just kept going.

7/3/2010 10:57:13 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
dreamcatcher78
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when a lady says the word NO, best take it for what it means.


if she really means yes, then let her make the next move. If you continue then your asking for trouble.

7/3/2010 11:08:21 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

bbw47reader
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I am telling you, because you don't know, that that is exactly what you did.

Maybe you or someone else reading this will get a clue as to what is really going on in those situations, rather than believing that your great persuasiveness and sexual prowess was a factor or that women as a general practice say no when they mean yes.

It wasn't and they don't.

7/3/2010 11:09:42 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

george1965
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Quote from ladybugbp:
And the others......probably think you are an a** hole.
im not a a-hole maybe i wore thier defenses down, can you understand that better?

7/3/2010 11:20:04 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
carli25
Gainesville, FL
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Quote from dreamcatcher78:
when a lady says the word NO, best take it for what it means.


if she really means yes, then let her make the next move. If you continue then your asking for trouble.



Well said

7/3/2010 11:25:02 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

lovethelake17
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Henderson, NV
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Quote from george1965:
im not a a-hole maybe i wore thier defenses down, can you understand that better?


What you don't understand is that you should not have worn their defenses down. It was not up to you to do that.

Like dreamcatcher said, stop when they say no. They will make the next move if the no changes into a yes.

Just follow dreamcatcher around. He's smart. Maybe you'll learn something.

7/3/2010 11:28:27 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
ladybugbp
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Quote from george1965:
im not a a-hole maybe i wore thier defenses down, can you understand that better?

Yes, I understand you wore their defenses down. I think you are proud of yourself for doing that. I think you are manipulative. And yes, I think you are an a** hole. You don't get what you are doing is WRONG!

7/3/2010 11:30:17 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
polefrog
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Harriman, TN
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What's the difference between "don't, stop" and "don't stop"????



[Edited 7/3/2010 11:30:34 PM ]

7/3/2010 11:54:04 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
tigerclawz59
Over 2,000 Posts (3,281)
Ogden, UT
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Dreamcatcher78 you are right. Your a gentleman. There nothing worse than being pawed and stocked by someone you dont really know. If its the right time than you'll both know.

7/4/2010 12:24:22 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
jesse1077
Chicago, IL
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Quote from anais_87:
Thank you! As my mom would say: "What part of NO don't you understand? The N? Or the O?


Totally agree!!!

7/4/2010 12:43:22 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
cavie59
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Enid, OK
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Quote from george1965:
some of my dates has said no, but i kept on and some gave in.



No means NO!!! What you did could be considered date rape. One day it could come back and bite you in the A@@.

7/4/2010 6:33:43 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
latestflame
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Germantown, TN
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women don't mean anything because they just randomly say yes or no to everything and are crazy thus they don't know what they're saying.

7/4/2010 6:41:12 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
theseventhsign
Over 1,000 Posts (1,625)
Lorain, OH
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I'm not a mind reader, so if she says "no" she'd better mean it.

7/4/2010 6:41:17 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
hotpockets
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Maple Shade, NJ
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Quote from george1965:
some of my dates has said no, but i kept on and some gave in.




And your PROUD of that???????

Does that mean you got what you wanted by sheer force?

Must be nice to toot your own horn there buddy...

so what she said REALLY did not matter to you -->> shows no respect.



[Edited 7/4/2010 6:41:43 AM ]

7/4/2010 7:58:12 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
rocket000
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Suwanee, GA
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Op, it appears you're looking for someone to validate your boorish behavior and it's probably not going to happen on this thread. Perhaps you might envision your mom or sister in a similar situation. It sounds like you have no respect for women. It sounds like you have absolutely no self control. I can tell you that you are probably marking time before one of these women cries foul and you will wind up in prison.

7/4/2010 8:49:20 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
younme36
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Jenkintown, PA
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Quote from george1965:
some of my dates has said no, but i kept on and some gave in.

So I guess you can always get another date with them?? or do you stalk them til they give in on that too? you are an ass

7/4/2010 10:06:22 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
jennala
Surrey, BC
49, joined Jun. 2010


Damn right it means no! The key to any good relationship is and always will be COMMUNICATION! If the respect is there, there will be no problem. Relationship based on sex alone will not last long! no pun intended really.

7/4/2010 10:12:25 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

wantfun71
Holiday, FL
51, joined Jul. 2010


only god knows what a woman means by saying no.....

sometimes they mean opposit...but there is an issue in the way .....try to find out if that is the problem.

maybe she wants you to do more effort to conquer her.....

dont know her and dont know the situation....but i do know....that you should by a book psycology....not to abuse that but to use it wisely

7/4/2010 10:16:47 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

george1965
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well, the way i saw it was,the ones that slapped me meant no, and the ones that kept letting me play with them meant yes ?

7/4/2010 10:20:20 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

george1965
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Bedford, VA
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Quote from hotpockets:
And your PROUD of that???????

Does that mean you got what you wanted by sheer force?

Must be nice to toot your own horn there buddy...

so what she said REALLY did not matter to you -->> shows no respect.
whoa! thats cold !!

7/4/2010 10:22:51 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

lovethelake17
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Quote from george1965:
well, the way i saw it was,the ones that slapped me meant no, and the ones that kept letting me play with them meant yes ?


Are you serious? Really? You don't stop until you're slapped? And if they don't it means they want to go on?

7/4/2010 10:29:46 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

george1965
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Quote from lovethelake17:
Are you serious? Really? You don't stop until you're slapped? And if they don't it means they want to go on?
have a guy ever kept on with you, and you changed your mind ?

7/4/2010 10:40:10 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

lovethelake17
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Henderson, NV
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Quote from george1965:
have a guy ever kept on with you, and you changed your mind ?


No. Not that I changed my mind and then wanted him. No.

In my 20's, I was pushed farther than I wanted to be a few times. I never changed my mind that I did want him but I went along with it, because it was just easier and then I knew he'd finally leave me alone. I don't know that I've ever slapped a man to stop him. Having to do that seems pretty scary to me, and how do I know that that wouldn't be more trouble or danger for me? I have pushed men off and left.

I will say that at times, and I realize that this was hard for a young man to understand, but if I only wanted to kiss and nothing else, and he tried to go further, I'd say no, but then go back to kissing. I realize that's confusing to some young men.

Fortunately most men who have gotten past their late teens, early 20's know that kissing is not a promise of sex.

7/4/2010 10:58:47 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
jdblue
Plano, TX
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REALLY???!!!!???? You are really asking that?

7/4/2010 11:00:42 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
therocks007
Over 2,000 Posts (2,319)
Virginia Beach, VA
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I've said no many times but it does not work

7/4/2010 11:04:39 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
ra_bert
Over 1,000 Posts (1,177)
Fair Oaks, CA
36, joined Jun. 2010


Quote from george1965:
some of my dates has said no, but i kept on and some gave in.
No means no, no way around it. maybe you should be on the megans or kellys law web site, whatever its called thats were you should be.

7/4/2010 11:11:57 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

iamhereru23
Fremont, NE
38, joined Apr. 2010


If you're going to have kind of sex where no can mean more you should have a safety word. One that actually means no or stop. There is no excuse for a man taking advantage of a woman who says no.

7/4/2010 11:16:48 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
laughbythelake
Sturgeon Lake, MN
55, joined Jan. 2010


Quote from iamhereru23:
If you're going to have kind of sex where no can mean more you should have a safety word. One that actually means no or stop. There is no excuse for a man taking advantage of a woman who says no.


are you serious?


That safety word is, NO! <~~ It's universal in many languages.

7/4/2010 11:20:51 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
leftfooted
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West Covina, CA
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Quote from george1965:
some of my dates has said no, but i kept on and some gave in.



so she said No,had a few more drinks and changed her mind due to the alcohol making her think that you were good looking....

7/4/2010 11:21:49 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

iamhereru23
Fremont, NE
38, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from laughbythelake:
are you serious?


That safety word is, NO! <~~ It's universal in many languages.



I was refering to role playing sex.

7/4/2010 11:25:45 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
shadowman001
Stony Plain, AB
97, joined Oct. 2009


You did in fact rape her; you forced yourself on her so much that you subdued her into submission. You are a scum bag and I hope that you are locked away from society as you are a threat to women.

The worst part is that you are now justifying it and in your sick twisted mind think you are right and that you did nothing wrong.

Make one wonder how many lives you have affected by your actions, all the women you forced yourself on now have to deal with your violation for the rest of their lives. How will they ever trust any man again after what you do to them?

You should be reported and charged and locked up.

7/4/2010 11:44:01 AMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

chatte09
Over 1,000 Posts (1,662)
Linden, NJ
58, joined Feb. 2009


Quote from hotpockets:
And your PROUD of that???????

Does that mean you got what you wanted by sheer force?

Must be nice to toot your own horn there buddy...

so what she said REALLY did not matter to you -->> shows no respect.

Quote from george1965:
whoa! thats cold !!


No, that's accurate.

You are a rapist.

And I agree with BBW, F**ktard. I hope one of your attempted conquests has a weapon next time. Maybe that will teach you some manners.

7/4/2010 12:39:35 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
spider77
Over 1,000 Posts (1,983)
Adamsville, AL
66, joined Oct. 2008


When she says no, she means no, when she says yes she mean yes, when she says maybe, she means no.

7/4/2010 1:10:54 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
doublehugx
Over 1,000 Posts (1,031)
Campbell, CA
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I had to go back and look at your age! Wow, do you have some growing up to do!

7/4/2010 1:35:34 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

nole_89
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (11,370)
Loganville, GA
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Well, what that means is that eventually she got a big horn bug in her head and you just happened to be available.

7/4/2010 1:49:21 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

wantfun71
Holiday, FL
51, joined Jul. 2010


I THOUGHT THAT NEANDERTHALERS DIED AFTER THE ICE AGE.....BUT THERE IS ONE LEFT....HAHAHAHAH

funny man.....either you have so much frustration inside or just walk around still in your pampers....but its clear that you need to learn a lot in life dude.

you are you and with this way of being you have to live and luckily not me...

good luck growing up.....its a long way for you my friend

7/4/2010 1:54:29 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

wantfun71
Holiday, FL
51, joined Jul. 2010


yeah dude, go see the doctor ok

7/4/2010 1:56:43 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 

wantfun71
Holiday, FL
51, joined Jul. 2010


he should date lorena bobbitt and wake up with his piece on the pillow wwwwwhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahhaha i am funny

7/4/2010 3:19:57 PMWhen a woman says no does she means no! 
wannatalknow
Anniston, AL
51, joined Apr. 2010


Dude,wouldnt that be considered rape,or something.Listen NO,absolutely means no,and if you have to beg,well that is very unappealling.A womans body is hers,and not yours.So for future refernce,NO MEANS NO.