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1/6/2012 12:19:32 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

martintarzan
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As I came home from shopping in Philadelphia I noticed chemtrail patterns over my friends house at 11:00 am. I took several pictures which I'll post at another time. At first I thought I was seeing things but as I took a closer look I noticed that the unusual white lines were crossed in unusual patterns unlike regular clouds. I was listening to NOAH radio at 1:00 pm and they forecast mostly sunny skys. However when I looked up the sky over where the chemtrails were I noticed the sky has become cloudy. And outside the chemtrail zone I saw more chemtrails on the outside of the first Chemtrail pattern. Almost as if to widen the area over my friends home. If anyone has knowledge of this in the northeast please post. Thank you.

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1/6/2012 1:06:34 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

always0n2wheels
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They're everywhere, nothing new.
Toxic metal in the atmosphere, increased rates of cancer & birth defects, it goes on & on...

1/6/2012 1:08:13 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

starfox22
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You are a great American, thank you for you're concern.

We are sending some people over to your house, they will be driving a black SUV, they will be wearing black suits. They are very nice, they are there to help you. They will ask you to take a drive with them, please do not resist, it is in your best interest to do so. Tell no one that you are leaving your house, turn your cell phone over to the nice man, and trust us.

Your Friend

E. Holder.

PS: Please prepare a list of all the people you have mentioned this to and have it ready when we get there.

1/6/2012 1:10:12 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
justsarcastic
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I had chemtrails over my house two nights ago ...

1/6/2012 1:19:34 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
swamphunter
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We've had them around here too. I'm not much for conspiracy theories, but when I see the sky criss crossed with dozens of them in one square mile or two, it does make me wonder how else they can be explain that...

1/6/2012 1:20:04 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
ruaqt4me
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Washington has a Chemtrail in the White House !!




1/6/2012 3:09:47 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Oh look! They were doing it in World War Two with B-17's!



1/6/2012 3:55:22 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

dwwcat
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its called contrails, ice crystals forming behind a jet, they turn clear blue skys into clouds, I counted 17 individual ones one day.

1/6/2012 4:20:13 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Quote from dwwcat:
its called contrails, ice crystals forming behind a jet, they turn clear blue skys into clouds, I counted 17 individual ones one day.


And they are totally harmless.

1/6/2012 4:28:19 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

pdforone
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Quote from dwwcat:
its called contrails, ice crystals forming behind a jet, they turn clear blue skys into clouds, I counted 17 individual ones one day.


I live under a major flight pattern for the mid west area, there are days when they are all over the sky.

Ever seen your dryer vent spewing steam on a cold day? The same principal, hot exhaust gases in a cold atmosphere, it`s always cold up there.

1/6/2012 4:33:52 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

dwwcat
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its cool living under major flight patterns, I believe Houston airliners pass over here. At night there's never a time without a blinking light in the sky.



[Edited 1/6/2012 4:35:52 PM ]

1/6/2012 4:44:07 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

pdforone
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Yes it can be cool! CLE is 25 miles away, so Detroit, Chicago and anything beyond or heading east pass over, also flights enter Canada. I am also of the flight path for the Goodyear blimps and it would appear some military flights.

On rare occasions we also get a view of a sky full of brightly colored hot air balloons. I guess they have a gathering of them at a small local airport. A lot of people in the area have enough land to land their own private planes on their own fields, and ultra lights are also fairly common sites.

1/6/2012 4:46:59 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
ruaqt4me
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1/6/2012 4:47:53 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
destryrides2
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Of all the conspiracy nonsense in this forum, this ranks #1 for being the most insane.
I have been in aviation most of my life and anyone who actually believes we have aircraft
purposely and willfully as well as maliciously spraying toxic waste into the atmosphere in an attempt to kill people is crazy period.

BTW take a good look at that pic twohawks posted. Its a perfect demonstration of what happens when aircraft fly above a certain altitude and through very cold air masses. In short they create vapor trails, NOT chem trails.......crazy!

1/6/2012 4:51:43 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
ruaqt4me
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Quote from destryrides2:
Of all the conspiracy nonsense in this forum, this ranks #1 for being the most insane.
I have been in aviation most of my life and anyone who actually believes we have aircraft
purposely and willfully as well as maliciously spraying toxic waste into the atmosphere in an attempt to kill people is crazy period.

BTW take a good look at that pic twohawks posted. Its a perfect demonstration of what happens when aircraft fly above a certain altitude and through very cold air masses. In short they create vapor trails, NOT chem trails.......crazy!



And I thought it was cars, boats, trains, and not just planes !!!

1/6/2012 4:56:55 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
destryrides2
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If I were the OP I would be more concerned about the three freight trains that collided today in Indiana. What a mess. There's plenty of reasons to worry about all the tanker cars that have spilled their loads and some have caught fire. I would think people would be far more concerned about that. Even if its more local to that region.

1/6/2012 6:03:26 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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I don't know how many of the "chem trail" threads I have seen but I do have to laugh when I see them. These are vapor trails created when the cold, moist upper air hits the hot jet engines. VAPOR TRAILS and there is nothing harmful in them. If these are supposed to be all these alleged chemicals they are allegedly spraying and they are supposed to cause all these medical problems....why is it that we are not having epidemics of these medical problems?

THEY ARE VAPOR TRAILS FOLKS! NOTHING TO GET SWEATY ABOUT!

1/6/2012 8:25:33 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

omniaautnihil
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inb4Chemtrails aren't real... Oh wait...

1. Contrails composed of water vapor routinely dissipate, as the physics and
chemistry of this model will demonstrate. As a separate and distinct
set of events, clouds may form if temperature, relative humidity, and
aerosol conditions are favorable to their development. If "contrails"
by appearance transform into "clouds", it can be concluded that the
material of composition is not water vapor.

2.The conditions under consideration show that the ice crystals
within a contrail can warm to the melting point and subsequently melt
with the heat provided by solar radiation.

3. As demonstrated both by historical observation and this model, the
time expected for contrail dissipation is relatively short, e.g., 2
minutes or less. This assumes the contrail is composed essentially
of water vapor, per the classic definition (condensed trail).

4. The rate of contrail dissipation is highly dependent upon the
the size of the ice crystal particles and the amount of solar radiation.
Dependence upon relative humidity is not evident. 'Cloud'
formation from aircraft, should it occur, is dependent primarily upon
the temperature, the relative humidity, and the type and size of
aerosol particles(nuclei) that are introduced.

1/6/2012 8:32:58 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Quote from omniaautnihil:
inb4Chemtrails aren't real... Oh wait...

1. Contrails composed of water vapor routinely dissipate, as the physics and
chemistry of this model will demonstrate. As a separate and distinct
set of events, clouds may form if temperature, relative humidity, and
aerosol conditions are favorable to their development. If "contrails"
by appearance transform into "clouds", it can be concluded that the
material of composition is not water vapor.

2.The conditions under consideration show that the ice crystals
within a contrail can warm to the melting point and subsequently melt
with the heat provided by solar radiation.

3. As demonstrated both by historical observation and this model, the
time expected for contrail dissipation is relatively short, e.g., 2
minutes or less. This assumes the contrail is composed essentially
of water vapor, per the classic definition (condensed trail).

4. The rate of contrail dissipation is highly dependent upon the
the size of the ice crystal particles and the amount of solar radiation.
Dependence upon relative humidity is not evident. 'Cloud'
formation from aircraft, should it occur, is dependent primarily upon
the temperature, the relative humidity, and the type and size of
aerosol particles(nuclei) that are introduced.



And "chemtrails" still aren't real! these have been debunked quite a few times. What you are seeing are harmless vapor trails.



[Edited 1/6/2012 8:35:07 PM ]

1/6/2012 8:44:43 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

onnightwings
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No, no....there is a secret conspiracy of people indiscriminately spraying toxins over their own children, relatives & loved ones.

Yeah, that makes sense.

1/6/2012 8:46:12 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

omniaautnihil
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Quote from twohawks:
And "chemtrails" still aren't real! these have been debunked quite a few times. What you are seeing are harmless vapor trails.



Wish I could post links.
Mhmm breathing in heavy metals...


The most commonly used commercial turbine jet fuels today are named JET-A, JET-A1, and JET-B. All of these are kerosene type fuels except JET-B which is a kerosene-naphtha blend for colder climates [1, 2]. JET-A is used internationally and JET-A1 is available only in the US. The US military primarily uses its own kerosene jet fuel, JP-8, which is similar to JET-A1 [11, 2].

A number of chemical additives are used in these fuels including corrosion inhibitors, temperature stabilizers, detergents, and static electricity dissipators. Static dissipators are of particular importance to atmospheric aerosol and environmental research, due to their metal content and their widespread use in commercial and military jet fuel [17, 8]. Octel Starreon Stadis® 450 is a static dissipator, comprised of dinonylnapthalene sulfonic acid and other organic solvents, and according to the product MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet), it contains two “trade secret” ingredients [18]. Stadis 450 is the only approved anti-static additive for use in Air Force aviation fuels, including JP-8, JP-5, JET-A1, and JET-B [9]. DuPont, the original manufacturer, reports having divested its production of Stadis 450 in September of 1994 to Octel Starreon LLC , now a subsidiary of Innospec Fuel Specialties. Innospec also manufactures another static dissipator additive called Statsafe®. However, according to Exxon Mobil, Stadis 450 continues to be the static dissipator of choice for commercial and military aviation [17].

… static dissipator additive is widely used in jet kerosene …. Stadis® 450 is the only additive currently manufactured for use in aviation turbine fuels approved by the major turbine and airframe manufacturers.

Although the “trade secret” ingredients are well protected by the manufacturer, a recent study contracted by the EPA [10] and other sources strongly imply that these ingredients are salts of barium and/or calcium. The EPA classifies this dinonylnaphthalene sulfonic acid, barium salt as a “HPV” (High Production Volume) chemical, meaning it is “produced or imported into the United States in quantities of 1 million pounds or more per year [12].” This same study reports that “Based on the available toxicity results, dinonylnaphthalene sulfonic acid, barium salt appears to be the most biologically active member of the [dinonylnaphthalene] category [10].”

It is hypothesized that jet exhaust aerosol [4] is responsible for cloud seeding, rainbow diffraction, and dichroism observed in persistent contrails [5]. While “skeptics” may dismiss the very existence of persistent contrails, the phenomenon is widespread and commonly accepted among atmospheric scientists [7]. The exact cause of aerosol cloud seeding has been the subject of endless debate, but it has been shown conclusively that the earth’s albedo, or its overall reflectivity, is increased by contrail aerosol (see chemtrails.cc sattelite imagery category).

In the 3 days after the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001 during which the FAA grounded all commercial aircraft in the US, a unique opportunity to study atmospheric aerosol presented itself. David J. Travis, University of Wisconsin found significant changes in surface temperature and presented his findings to the American Meteorological Society [6].

1/6/2012 9:00:42 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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In your paranoid mind these "chem trails" are probably real, but in the minds of those of us who see beyond this nonsense, we see nothing more than harmless vapor trails and commercial and military aircraft are not "spraying" anything. Some military aircraft my be equipped to spray something, but there are no spraying devices on any commercial aircraft.

1/6/2012 9:08:36 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

omniaautnihil
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Quote from twohawks:
In your paranoid mind these "chem trails" are probably real, but in the minds of those of us who see beyond this nonsense, we see nothing more than harmless vapor trails and commercial and military aircraft are not "spraying" anything. Some military aircraft my be equipped to spray something, but there are no spraying devices on any commercial aircraft.


Le sigh.
Why do you think its so impossible that they would put additives to fuel that we shouldn't be breathing in?

Do you think its okay that you're breathing in Barium and other heavy metals?

1/6/2012 9:10:10 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
justsarcastic
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The ones I have seen ... are in a criss-cross pattern over about a square mile ...

Why would an aircraft fly in that pattern ????

1/6/2012 9:20:19 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Quote from omniaautnihil:
Le sigh.
Why do you think its so impossible that they would put additives to fuel that we shouldn't be breathing in?

Do you think its okay that you're breathing in Barium and other heavy metals?


The inside working temperature of a commercial jet engine is 3632F Anything you put in the fuel would be burned up instantly.

Keep trying!

1/6/2012 9:25:29 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

longbobby
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Contrails Vs Chemtrails -

Facts And Chronology

5-23-00


I. Contrail vs. Chemtrail.

A. A contrail dispurses. A chemtrail spreads into cloud cover and sometimes has fallout (cob-web like filaments, red/yellow powders, milky-white fluid).

II. Purposes (??? weather modification, protection from ozone holes, bio-vaccination, culling - ???)

A. Weather modification.

* Openly stated goal of the U.S. Military is "owning the weather" www.au.af.mil/au/database/research/ay1996/acsc/9025ag.htm

* UN environmental Program "Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change" www.ipcc.ch

* UN "Capacity Development Initiative" on climate change ... in partnership with THE WORLD BANK as financiers (remember Seattle protests) www.gefweb.org/Capacity_Dev.pdf

* Dr. Bernard Eastlund took up the Tesla theories. Eastlund released his research and concernns on the internet AFTER the military took over, to cover his butt. www.borderlands.com/newstuff/research/HPEMRAD/Eastlund.htm

* When DOD took over Dr. Eastlund's research, the birth of HAARP took place. HAARP is based in Alaska and it is being applied to the Earth's ionosphere for weather control and mind control purposes. "Angels Don't Play This HAARP", Dr. Nick Begich [Earthpulse Press, PO Box 201393, Anchorage, AK 99520]; Concerned citizens group paper at www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/project116.html

* US Air Force IS involved. Early April 2000, KC135s were grounded and during the period immediately following spraying reports across the US significantly dropped. See http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/chemtrailtrackingusa (OVER 700 members - daily reports to track) Also see the research of William Thomas (Author, "The Scorched Earth", "Bringing The War Home", "Probing the Chemtrail Conundrum") www.islandnet.com/~wilco/investsky.htm (Email: wilco@islandnet.com).

* Our weathermen KNOW. The data doesn't support the cloud cover. For instance, last year in Sante Fe, NM there was a 21-day period of continuous clouud cover when humidity/dew point levels were no higher than 30%. Clouds can only form when humidity/dew point levels are 60% of higher. HOW DID THE CLOUDS FORM?? (see www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm)

B. There has definitely been biological warfare testing of UNKNOWING U.S. citizens and OUR GOVERNMENT IS FULLY AWARE OF IT.

* 1977 hearings before the U.S. Senate Committee on Human Resources SubCommittee on Health and Scientific Research (see www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm)

* AGAIN 5/6/94 U.S. Senate testimony of Dr. Leonard Cole (Author, "Clouds of Secrecy") before the Committee on Veteran's Affairs (see www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm)

* 3 segments aired on ABC / Ted Kopple's "Nighline" which included the testimony of Peter Kawaja on the biowarfare exposure of Gulf War vets. Of the initial 697,000 soldiers deployed to the Gulf War, 489,400+ (70%) are now discharged, 1000s have died and are dying, 67% of their babies born after are born deformed, family/friends/doctors/nurses becoming sick. Mycoplasmas are a part of their sickness.

* UN Wildlands Project - the "re-wilding of America". 50% of the United States is being set aside for global parklands with NO HUMANS ALLOWED. Papers state "human population must be reduced." Concerned citizens site www.wildlandsproject.org/htm/summary.htm

* Damning patents. U.S. patent 5534413 for invasive mycoplasma infection (isolated from the urine of AIDS patients), and THE VACCINE YOU NEVER EVER HEAR ABOUT U.S. Patent 5242820. Mycoplasmas can cause Epstein-Barr/mono, lupus, ALS, MS, meningitis, lymphoma, leukemia, alzheimers, Crohn's Disease, PID, arthritis, fibromyalgia, allergies, asthma etc etc etc. http://members.aol.com/ghylak/mycoplasma.htm and www.gulfwarvets.com/article24.htm

* Lab results from ground samples taken from 2 unassociated parties (Sacramento and E.Oregon) after flyovers from unmarked aircraft reveal biowarfare bacterias named in over 160 Pentagon patents referencing biowarfare applications, toxic molds, ethylene dibromide (a pesticide banned by the EPA which damages lungs/heart/liver/kidneys). (See www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm). "The flu that's not the flu" - hospitals filled to capacity TURNING AWAY patients:

1/6/2012 9:26:23 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

longbobby
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"THIS VIRUS IS A MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL PARASITE", Dr. W. Paul Glezen of the Influena Research Center at Baylor. NEVER has "parasite" been associated with a "virus". A parasite FEEDS FROM THE HOST. A virus, on the other hand, NEEDS A SUSCEPTIBLE HOST'S CELLS TO MULTIPLY. What's Dr. Glezen talking about? Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz states: "Based on the evidence that my colleagues and I have accumulated, I conclude that this flu-like illness IS most likely associated with chemical and biological co-factors." His email: tetra@tetrahedron.org.

* Florescent black light reveals filaments - LOTS - which glows blue, red/orange. Contains barium titanate?, a dielectric used to keep electricity flowing. Using this to : trap moisture to create clouds; build up earth pressures to cause earthquakes, tornados, volcanic eruptions; to create extra tension and stress in humans. The fibers are in a twisted ribbon shape ~3-5 microns thick by ~10 to 13 microns wide. They have imperfections that manifest as small clumps of polymer whiskers ~.5 to 1 micron in diameter by ~5 to 10 microns long. There are large enough by themselves and in sufficient quantity to cause possible long-lasting lung disease. WHERE ARE YOU AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION??

* A microsopic particle count study in New Mexico shows a 16% increase in the magnitude of the average microscopic particle count data of 1999 vs. the average of the COMBINED YEARS of 1996, 1997 and 1998. The difference is significant - at the 99.9% plus level. The conclusion reached is that the microscopic air particle count in New Mexico in 1999 is STRIKINGLY different from that of the preceding 3 years combined. (See www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm).

C. Ominous developments.

* Unusual truck activity across the U.S. Trimac Western tanker trucks that DO NOT display DOT placard codes giving their contents, being WAVED THRU mandatory truck inspection stops! People who slow down to take a "look-see" are being shadowed 20-30 miles by civilian cars escorting the tanker trucks. Trimac is owned by Rentokil of the United Kingdom - they haul pesticides and chemicals for BASF, DuPont and Bayer. (See www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm).

* COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT ARE NOW BEING USED TO SPRAY - particularly BOEING planes. Also, an aircraft mechanic from a major airline received anonymous "warning" call, job suspension and threats left in his locker after his observing an extra 50gal. plus 2 smaller gal. tanks located near the aircraft waste disposal system. The extra tanks WERE NOT connected to the waste disposal system, but instead led to a box attached to the aircraft's central control and had piping leading to deliberately "hollowed out" wiring connected to the edges of the aircraft's wings. (See www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm).

* Also there are alot of anti-chemtrail activists reporting harrassment, but on 5/19/00 Cliff Carnicom, owner of the most proactive anti-chemtrail website, contacted the FBI regarding impersonation, libel, professional hacking and death threats. His site alone has submitted 3,087 letters to federal officials, and 828 letters to state officials and TO DATE NO RESPONSE HAS BEEN RECEIVED..

D. Announcements.

* Email Congressman Tom Udall. He told a constituent he would ask for Congressional hearings. Let's hold him up to that. tom.udall@mail.house.gov

* Nationwide organization "Citizens Against Chemtrails" is putting together a massive petition for Congressional hearing purposes. Submit your name/address/email at Cliff site: www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm, or email ohwarriorgoddess@earthlink.net

* Whistleblowers can do so anonymously at www.users.ev1.net/~seektress/tips.htm
====================

I just LOVE debunking the "debunkers"....try using facts and factual history sometime guys...



[Edited 1/6/2012 9:28:02 PM ]

1/6/2012 9:29:46 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

dwwcat
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haarp, There's not enough foil in walmart to help you.

1/6/2012 9:30:08 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
icuddle
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Chemtrails are just streams of cum from humping space whales who sometimes graze our atmosphere on their mating migrations to Bernard's Star. Nothing to worry about.

1/6/2012 9:38:06 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

leeag
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Guess I got outta Philly just in time then.

Although.....I DO feel a little dumber....or is it stupider? Oh shit they got me!

Dam chemicals

1/6/2012 9:41:07 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

omniaautnihil
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Quote from twohawks:
The inside working temperature of a commercial jet engine is 3632F Anything you put in the fuel would be burned up instantly.

Keep trying!


Burned up instantly = chemical reaction.
It would probably compound to either Barium Oxide or Barium Hydroxide.


Exposure to barium occurs mostly in the workplace or from drinking contaminated water. Ingesting high levels of barium can cause problems with the heart, stomach, liver, kidneys, and other organs. This chemical has been found in at least 649 of 1,416 National Priorities List sites identified by the Environmental Protection Agency. What is barium? (Pronounced bar'e-um) Barium is a silvery-white metal found in nature. It occurs combined with other chemicals such as sulfur or carbon and oxygen. These combinations are called compounds. Barium compounds can also be produced by industry. Barium compounds are used by the oil and gas industries to make drilling muds. Drilling muds make it easier to drill through rock by keeping the drill bit lubricated. They are also used to make paint, bricks, tiles, glass, and rubber. A barium compound (barium sulfate) is sometimes used by doctors to perform medical tests and to take x-rays of the stomach..

BARIUM OXIDE, Anhydrous:

>>10. Stability and Reactivity

Stability: Stable under ordinary conditions of use and storage. Very Alkaline. Absorbs carbon dioxide and water from air.
Hazardous Decomposition Products: Reacts with water forming barium hydroxide and liberating much heat.
Hazardous Polymerization: Will not occur.
Incompatibilities: Hydrogen sulfide, carbon dioxide, water, hydroxylamine, nitorgen tetroxide, sulfur trioxide, triuranium.
Conditions to Avoid: Air, moisture, and incompatibles.

1/6/2012 9:42:52 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

lobo_corazon
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Quote from dwwcat:
haarp, There's not enough foil in walmart to help you.

This is by far the best post of yours I've ever seen.

1/6/2012 9:45:56 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

longbobby
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Tin foil, dww? Better hold onto your hat, boy!

Do you think CONGRESS or the MEDIA wears "tin foil hats" too?

HAARP CBC Broadcast Weather control part 1



And some coverage on the History Channel as well -

The Military's Mystery Machine - Haarp Weather Modification Technology in Alaska



In a lecture on April 27, 1997 at the University of Georgia former Secretary of Defense, William Cohen spoke on weapons of mass destruction. At that lecture Cohen asserted that “electromagnetic waves can be used to stimulate geophysical events such as earthquakes, climate change, volcanic eruptions and the like”.

Secretary of Defense Cohen also stated that this is being used in an ecotype of terrorism. Can we take Cohen’s assertions to be factual? As Secretary of Defense, Cohen would have had first hand technical knowldge of the existence of such a weapon of mass destruction. So if what he was saying is true who is using this weapon of mass destruction and ecotype of terrorism? Since Cohen worked for the United States government the only plausible answer would be the United States government.

Former US Secretary of Defense, William Cohen was actually warning us in 1997 that the United States government has developed and is now actively using a weapon that is capable of causing mass destruction by triggering earthquakes, weather modification (inducing heavy rainfall that causes floods or no rainfall which causes droughts), volcanic eruptions and the like. Cohen was warning us about the existence of HAARP. HAARP was developed by the Bill Clinton / Al Gore administration as a United States weapon of mass destruction. HAARP was ordered built by Bill Clinton and Al Gore to beam electromagnetic waves into the Earth’s inosphere to trigger geophysical events such as earthquakes, climate modification (change), volcanic eruptions and the like.

Congressional Hearing records during the Clinton administration and HAARP patents disclose that HAARP beaming heats the inosphere. As we all know heat causes things to expand. We also know that heat rises. As HAARP heats one part of the ionosphere the ionosphere expands and gets pushed higher. This HAARP ionosphere heating can cause a controlled diverting or altering of the natural path of jet streams. What does manipulating the jet stream have to do with manipulating the weather? The jet stream is literally a fast flowing (at jet speed) stream – of water vapor. The jet stream transports atmospheric rivers of water vapor around the World.

These jet streams of vapor carry an amount of water vapor roughly equivalent to the average flow of water at the mouth of the Mississippi River. When these atmospheric rivers make landfall, they often release this water vapor in the form of rain or snow. By manipulating the jet stream (pushing or pulling it off course) HAARP can modify the weather. HAARP can alter the path an existing high pressure weather system (clear skies) or low pressure weather system (storm clouds) anywhere on Earth just by heating the ionsphere over the target region. HAARP can also create a column-shaped hole with a diameter of 30 miles that rises a couple of hundred kilometers through the atmosphere. The lower atmosphere then moves up the column to fill in that space, and it changes pressure systems below.

The result of hot surface air being sucked up into the column to fill the HAARP created column-shaped hole is a HAARP created hurricane (if HAARP column-shaped hole is made over water) or tornado (if HAARP column-shaped hole is made over land). The April/May 2000 issue of Scientific American contains an article on the effects of altering the course of the jet stream. This slight change to the jet stream path occurred right above the HAARP facility. That little movement created a storm front 4,000 miles away in east Texas and Louisiana to move into central Florida where it triggered a couple of tornadoes.
This article gives evidence that weather modification is certainly possible with only a slight change to the jet stream.

In 1998 Bernard Eastlund completed a paper on how to knock out tornadoes using a space-based, solar-collecting microwave generator, which he called theThunderstorm Solar Power Satellite. The microwaves would heat the rainy downdraft inside the storm, disrupting the convective forces needed to concentrate the tornado’s power, and so effectively stop it from forming. That paper was presented in Italy and it was so widely accepted that NASA and FEMA contracted Bernard Eastlund to do further research on weather modification using satellite-based technology. “Mesocyclone Diagnostic Requirements for the Thunderstorm Solar Power Satellite Concept” Published in the Proceedings of “The Second Conference on the Applications of Remote Sensing and GIS for Disaster Management”, Jan. 19-21, 1999,

The Jet Stream Solar Power Satellite is described by Eastlund as “a dual use Satellite which can focus microwave energy into a jet stream to change the direction of a jet stream. It does this by triggering turbulence in the flowing air which decreases the flow velocity of an edge region of the flow and generating a pressure differential that changes the direction of the bulk air flow.“
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Do you want more, boy? Or have you been humiliated enough for tonight? If not, just say the word.

I'll be GLAD to heap on the humiliation...all just for YOU, boy.

1/6/2012 9:53:20 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

longbobby
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HAARP Patents (Assigned to APTI, Inc. Los Angeles, CA, Washington, DC) U.S. Patent 4686605: Method And Apparatus For Altering A Region In The Earth’s Atmosphere, Ionosphere, And/Or Magnetosphere Issued: Aug. 11, 1987 Filed: Jan. 10, 1985

U.S. Patent 5038664: Method For Producing A Shell Of Relativistic Particles At An Altitude Above The Earth’s Surface ~ Issued: Aug. 13, 1991 Filed: Jan. 10, 1985

U.S. Patent 4712155: Method And Apparatus For Creating An Artificial Electron Cyclotron Heating Region Of Plasma ~ Issued: Dec. 8, 1987 Filed: Jan. 28, 1985

U.S. Patent 5068669: Power Beaming System ~ Issued: Nov. 26, 1991 Filed: Sep. 1, 1988 U.S. Patent 5218374: Power Beaming System With Printer Circuit Radiating Elements Having Resonating Cavities ~ Issued: June 8, 1993 Filed: Oct. 10, 1989 U.S. Patent 5293176:

Folded Cross Grid Dipole Antenna Element ~ Issued: Mar. 8, 1994 Filed: Nov. 18, 1991 U.S. Patent 5202689: Lightweight Focusing Reflector For Space ~ Issued: Apr. 13, 1993 Filed: Aug. 23, 1991 U.S. Patent 5041834: Artificial Ionospheric Mirror Composed Of A Plasma Layer Which Can Be Tilted ~ Issued: Aug. 20, 1991 Filed: May. 17, 1990 U.S. Patent 4999637: Creation Of Artificial Ionization Clouds Above The Earth ~ Issued: Mar. 12, 1991 Filed: May. 14, 1987 U.S. Patent 4954709: High Resolution Directional Gamma Ray Detector ~ Issued: Sep. 4, 1990 Filed: Aug. 16, 1989 U.S. Patent 4817495:

Defense System For Discriminating Between Objects In Space ~ Issued: Apr. 4, 1989 Filed: Jul. 7, 1986 U.S. Patent 4873928: Nuclear-Sized Explosions Without Radiation ~ Issued: Oct. 17, 1989 Filed: June 15, 1987

Still think that HAARP is just another wacky fictional conspiracy? The above listed patents should be enough to convince any intelligent person that HAARP is real and is now actively modifying our weather and triggering earthquakes.

For those who are still not convinced, look to the United States Congress for proof. In order for HAARP to get funding the people who first created HAARP needed funding. That funding was made possible by the US government. If you were to look at Congressional records you would find documents that states just one of the many official purposes of HAARP – for penetrating the earth with signals bounced off of the ionosphere.

Congress was informed by people in the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program that the bounced signals would be used to look inside the planet to a depth of many kilometers in order to locate underground munitions, minerals and tunnels. If you bounced the known earthquake signature signal (2.5 Hz) for a sustained period of time an earthquake could triggered many kilometers inside Earth’s crust.

The U.S. Senate actually set aside $15 million dollars in 1996 (Clinton and Al Gore Administration) to develop this ability alone — earth-penetrating-tomography. Update April 21, 2011 Under pressure from the International community the HAARP website is up again.

No data is available from April 7 to April 12, 2011.

Data before and after shows the signature frequency of an earthquake (2.5Hz) being transmitted. Also shows energy spikes which indicates active weather modification. Now that the website is up again you can view the data for the Japan earthquake at http://137.229.36.30/cgi-bin/scmag/disp-scmag.cgi?20110311. From the magnetometer induction data you can see 2.5Hz (earthquake inducing frequency) being broadcasted and recorded for several days before the 9.0 magnitude earthquake.

To see what a normal (no HAARP broadcasting) day looks like view the magnetometer charts for the days of March 15, 16 and 17 – March 16, 2011 http://137.229.36.30/cgi-bin/scmag/disp-scmag.cgi?date=20110316&Bx=on. No earthquake inducing broadcast was detected from March 15 to March 27, 2011.

On March 28, 2011 a low powered broadcast was detected from approximately 12:00 am to 3:00 am. Broadcasting resumed on April 2, 2011. April 6, 2011 shows you what the magnetometer charts looks like when a solar storm blasts Earth. No data is available from April 7, 2011 to April 13, 2011 – a shutdown.

Starting on April 15, 2011 and ending approximately 10:00 am April 16, 2011 the earthquake inducing frequency of 2.5Hz was detected being broadcasted. Weather Modification To detect active weather modification use the HAARP waterfall charts. Weather modification doesn’t require a long sustained activation and broadcast. Look at the chart for April 20, 2011. The chart is missing data for approximately 1 hour.

Since PRESS Core has been studying and writing about HAARP and how to recognize a weather modification incident HAARP data is being censored in exactly the same manner as seen by the chart for April 20, 2011. The HAARP waterfall chart for July 28, 2010 (link image shown above) shows what a HAARP weather modification broadcast looks like. The tight color band from 2:30 PM to 5:00 PM is evidence of a HAARP weather modification broadcast. That type of data is being deleted from the waterfall charts – see HAARP waterfall chart for April 20, 2011 –

1/6/2012 10:23:59 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

llfuzzball
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There are no chemtrails. They are condensed water.

1/6/2012 10:42:16 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

longbobby
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Scroll back a page; I've already proven there ARE chemtrails.

If you choose not to believe Uncle Scam could do that to US citizens; that is up to you, but a denial of the proof is just plain silly.

I don't blame you though..really I don't. It's enough to rock anyones world that YES...Uncle Scam IS doing it to us and HAS been doing it to us for over a decade.

1/6/2012 10:47:28 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Quote from longbobby:
Scroll back a page; I've already proven there ARE chemtrails.

If you choose not to believe Uncle Scam could do that to US citizens; that is up to you, but a denial of the proof is just plain silly.

I don't blame you though..really I don't. It's enough to rock anyones world that YES...Uncle Scam IS doing it to us and HAS been doing it to us for over a decade.



Ok!.......Whatever?

1/6/2012 10:50:08 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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So tell me. If these alleged "chem trails" are causing all of these medical problems that they are supposed to cause...why is it that we are having no epidemics of this?

1/6/2012 11:07:20 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

k1ngmaker
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Wow, longbobby thinks a stupid conspiracy is proved by posting rambling links to conspiracy nut websites? Shocked, shocked I tell you.

1/6/2012 11:12:52 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Quote from k1ngmaker:
Wow, longbobby thinks a stupid conspiracy is proved by posting rambling links to conspiracy nut websites? Shocked, shocked I tell you.


WHAT? Are you saying that longbobby is a conspiracy theorist? My goodness!

1/6/2012 11:23:33 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

martintarzan
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Quote from longbobby:
"THIS VIRUS IS A MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL PARASITE", Dr. W. Paul Glezen of the Influena Research Center at Baylor. NEVER has "parasite" been associated with a "virus". A parasite FEEDS FROM THE HOST. A virus, on the other hand, NEEDS A SUSCEPTIBLE HOST'S CELLS TO MULTIPLY. What's Dr. Glezen talking about? Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz states: "Based on the evidence that my colleagues and I have accumulated, I conclude that this flu-like illness IS most likely associated with chemical and biological co-factors." His email: tetra@tetrahedron.org.

* Florescent black light reveals filaments - LOTS - which glows blue, red/orange. Contains barium titanate?, a dielectric used to keep electricity flowing. Using this to : trap moisture to create clouds; build up earth pressures to cause earthquakes, tornados, volcanic eruptions; to create extra tension and stress in humans. The fibers are in a twisted ribbon shape ~3-5 microns thick by ~10 to 13 microns wide. They have imperfections that manifest as small clumps of polymer whiskers ~.5 to 1 micron in diameter by ~5 to 10 microns long. There are large enough by themselves and in sufficient quantity to cause possible long-lasting lung disease. WHERE ARE YOU AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION??

* A microsopic particle count study in New Mexico shows a 16% increase in the magnitude of the average microscopic particle count data of 1999 vs. the average of the COMBINED YEARS of 1996, 1997 and 1998. The difference is significant - at the 99.9% plus level. The conclusion reached is that the microscopic air particle count in New Mexico in 1999 is STRIKINGLY different from that of the preceding 3 years combined. (See www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm).

C. Ominous developments.

* Unusual truck activity across the U.S. Trimac Western tanker trucks that DO NOT display DOT placard codes giving their contents, being WAVED THRU mandatory truck inspection stops! People who slow down to take a "look-see" are being shadowed 20-30 miles by civilian cars escorting the tanker trucks. Trimac is owned by Rentokil of the United Kingdom - they haul pesticides and chemicals for BASF, DuPont and Bayer. (See www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm).

* COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT ARE NOW BEING USED TO SPRAY - particularly BOEING planes. Also, an aircraft mechanic from a major airline received anonymous "warning" call, job suspension and threats left in his locker after his observing an extra 50gal. plus 2 smaller gal. tanks located near the aircraft waste disposal system. The extra tanks WERE NOT connected to the waste disposal system, but instead led to a box attached to the aircraft's central control and had piping leading to deliberately "hollowed out" wiring connected to the edges of the aircraft's wings. (See www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm).

* Also there are alot of anti-chemtrail activists reporting harrassment, but on 5/19/00 Cliff Carnicom, owner of the most proactive anti-chemtrail website, contacted the FBI regarding impersonation, libel, professional hacking and death threats. His site alone has submitted 3,087 letters to federal officials, and 828 letters to state officials and TO DATE NO RESPONSE HAS BEEN RECEIVED..

D. Announcements.

* Email Congressman Tom Udall. He told a constituent he would ask for Congressional hearings. Let's hold him up to that. tom.udall@mail.house.gov

* Nationwide organization "Citizens Against Chemtrails" is putting together a massive petition for Congressional hearing purposes. Submit your name/address/email at Cliff site: www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm, or email ohwarriorgoddess@earthlink.net

* Whistleblowers can do so anonymously at www.users.ev1.net/~seektress/tips.htm
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I just LOVE debunking the "debunkers"....try using facts and factual history sometime guys...
Thank you long. I think I know the difference between contrails and chemtrails and am happy you have provided your wonderful reply. I'll try to get those pictures downloaded from my camera as soon as I figure how to do it.

1/6/2012 11:24:56 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

martintarzan
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Quote from always0n2wheels:
They're everywhere, nothing new.
Toxic metal in the atmosphere, increased rates of cancer & birth defects, it goes on & on...
Thank you Always. It is quite alarming to say the least. But I appreciate your reply.

1/7/2012 1:02:54 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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No one has answered my question, so I will ask it again:

So tell me. If these alleged "chem trails" are causing all of these medical problems that they are supposed to cause...why is it that we are having no epidemics of this?

1/7/2012 5:17:37 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

martintarzan
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Here's the picture I took with the chemtrails at the bottom of the page.

1/7/2012 5:22:40 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

martintarzan
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Well twohawks we do, it's called flu season where every year new strains of flu and other viruses appear as out of nowhere. The WHO and the CDC working with the military and others are spreading new viruses through the chemtrail method and/or through vaccinations as they did with the aids virus that came from Fort Dettrick, Maryland. Just read, " Emerging Viruses " by Dr. Lenny Horowitz and look at his video on youtube.

1/7/2012 8:35:36 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Quote from martintarzan:
Well twohawks we do, it's called flu season where every year new strains of flu and other viruses appear as out of nowhere. The WHO and the CDC working with the military and others are spreading new viruses through the chemtrail method and/or through vaccinations as they did with the aids virus that came from Fort Dettrick, Maryland. Just read, " Emerging Viruses " by Dr. Lenny Horowitz and look at his video on youtube.


And you think these are being spread by this alleged "chem trails"? Can you show me some proof on this?

1/7/2012 8:42:49 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
ruaqt4me
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It looks like a blank etch a sketch to me !!!!

1/7/2012 8:44:00 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Quote from martintarzan:
Well twohawks we do, it's called flu season where every year new strains of flu and other viruses appear as out of nowhere. The WHO and the CDC working with the military and others are spreading new viruses through the chemtrail method and/or through vaccinations as they did with the aids virus that came from Fort Dettrick, Maryland. Just read, " Emerging Viruses " by Dr. Lenny Horowitz and look at his video on youtube.


WRONG! AIDS got started in Africa.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/aids/virus/origins.html

1/7/2012 10:36:25 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

longbobby
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Quote from k1ingon:
Wow, longbobby thinks a stupid conspiracy is proved by posting rambling links to conspiracy nut websites? Shocked, shocked I tell you.


HAARP Patents (Assigned to APTI, Inc. Los Angeles, CA, Washington, DC) U.S. Patent 4686605: Method And Apparatus For Altering A Region In The Earth’s Atmosphere, Ionosphere, And/Or Magnetosphere Issued: Aug. 11, 1987 Filed: Jan. 10, 1985

U.S. Patent 5038664: Method For Producing A Shell Of Relativistic Particles At An Altitude Above The Earth’s Surface ~ Issued: Aug. 13, 1991 Filed: Jan. 10, 1985

U.S. Patent 4712155: Method And Apparatus For Creating An Artificial Electron Cyclotron Heating Region Of Plasma ~ Issued: Dec. 8, 1987 Filed: Jan. 28, 1985

U.S. Patent 5068669: Power Beaming System ~ Issued: Nov. 26, 1991 Filed: Sep. 1, 1988 U.S. Patent 5218374: Power Beaming System With Printer Circuit Radiating Elements Having Resonating Cavities ~ Issued: June 8, 1993 Filed: Oct. 10, 1989 U.S. Patent 5293176:

Folded Cross Grid Dipole Antenna Element ~ Issued: Mar. 8, 1994 Filed: Nov. 18, 1991 U.S. Patent 5202689: Lightweight Focusing Reflector For Space ~ Issued: Apr. 13, 1993 Filed: Aug. 23, 1991 U.S. Patent 5041834: Artificial Ionospheric Mirror Composed Of A Plasma Layer Which Can Be Tilted ~ Issued: Aug. 20, 1991 Filed: May. 17, 1990 U.S. Patent 4999637: Creation Of Artificial Ionization Clouds Above The Earth ~ Issued: Mar. 12, 1991 Filed: May. 14, 1987 U.S. Patent 4954709: High Resolution Directional Gamma Ray Detector ~ Issued: Sep. 4, 1990 Filed: Aug. 16, 1989 U.S. Patent 4817495:

Defense System For Discriminating Between Objects In Space ~ Issued: Apr. 4, 1989 Filed: Jul. 7, 1986 U.S. Patent 4873928: Nuclear-Sized Explosions Without Radiation ~ Issued: Oct. 17, 1989 Filed: June 15, 1987

Still think that HAARP is just another wacky fictional conspiracy? The above listed patents should be enough to convince any intelligent person that HAARP is real and is now actively modifying our weather and triggering earthquakes.
==================

Government PATENTS are "rambling links to conspiracy nut websites" ?

Uh huh.



That's ok k1ingon...you just keep on denying what anyone can easily google for themselves.

The very simple search term "Government patents HAARP"... ONLY ...(snicker)... yields 421,000 hits on Google.

A discerning person might ask WHY k1ingon is denying the reality of HAARP and chemtrails?

A discerning person might wonder WHY a faceless sock puppet profile who is an admitted short statured atheist, whose politics are described as VERY liberal who (SUPPOSEDLY) lives in Canada, would be denying everything insidious that is happening in America.

Especially when he never has any facts to back up his scoffing denials.

1/7/2012 10:41:32 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

longbobby
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WRONG! AIDS got started in Africa.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/aids/virus/origins.html


Oh? And you BELIEVE what Pbs says, do you? Do you know who donates money to pbs? Ever wonder WHY the producers of that show on pbs claims that AIDS started in Africa? Do you even KNOW who produced that segment? Do you know what their background is?

Noooooo, of COURSE you don't. And naturally the term "cover up" never entered your head because "cover ups" are just "conspiracy theories", right?

1/7/2012 10:56:58 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Quote from longbobby:
Oh? And you BELIEVE what Pbs says, do you? Do you know who donates money to pbs? Ever wonder WHY the producers of that show on pbs claims that AIDS started in Africa? Do you even KNOW who produced that segment? Do you know what their background is?

Noooooo, of COURSE you don't. And naturally the term "cover up" never entered your head because "cover ups" are just "conspiracy theories", right?


Well if the World Health Organization says AIDS started in Africa you can pretty much bet it did. Please go back to your world of paranoia!

1/7/2012 11:21:05 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

longbobby
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The WHO ? You mean THESE guys?

World Health Organization's Swine Flu Vaccine Scam



You can put your head back into the sand now, 2chicken. Go back to pretending you are an ostrich waiting for your debunked WHO to gain credibility again...which may actually happen a 100 years from now.

1/7/2012 11:26:30 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Quote from longbobby:
The WHO ? You mean THESE guys?

World Health Organization's Swine Flu Vaccine Scam



You can put your head back into the sand now, 2chicken. Go back to pretending you are an ostrich waiting for your debunked WHO to gain credibility again...which may actually happen a 100 years from now.


I'd believe WHO before I'd believe you!

1/7/2012 11:37:01 AMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

longbobby
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I'm sure YOU would....which doesn't reassure me in the least in regard to your level of competence at all.

1/7/2012 12:10:24 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Quote from longbobby:
I'm sure YOU would....which doesn't reassure me in the least in regard to your level of competence at all.


YAWN!



[Edited 1/7/2012 12:11:00 PM ]

1/7/2012 12:30:47 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

longbobby
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I'm SURE it just a "coincidence" that you get sleepy every time your BS is debunked.

1/7/2012 1:50:52 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 
twohawks
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Quote from longbobby:
I'm SURE it just a "coincidence" that you get sleepy every time your BS is debunked.


Actually I put the yawn on there because your posts are boring and don't require a rational answer.

1/7/2012 1:56:15 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

stargazzer
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With the wind drift it will hit RI. and make them all stay home from the polls.

1/7/2012 3:12:49 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

longbobby
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Quote from twohawks:
Actually I put the yawn on there because your posts are boring and don't require a rational answer.


That's what I like about you, 2chicken. You're a good loser.

Keeping in mind that even a good loser is still a loser.

Hey, here's a great idea. Post some more ZioMedia propaganda that I can debunk. I like making you look like what you are.

1/7/2012 3:28:50 PMChemtrails over Philadelphia ? 

italiano72
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I was gonna reply to the pix and this story.... BUT i am laughing so hard thats really hard to look at the scree while typing